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Old 14 July 2005 | 11:54 PM
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Cheers guys

Hope i get a nice magistrate in a good mood!!!!

Definately need to get myself a road angel now though, have been thinking of getting one for ages, but think this is the kick up the bum that i need

Many thanks

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Old 15 July 2005 | 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by icedtoast
TBH you could get anything.

There's absolutely no consistency when dishing out any endorsement, especially when going to court.

Some advice I'd give to anyone whose pulled over for any offence from past experience...

1. Never show your licence, even if you have it on you. In the eyes of the law it's an admission of guilt to the alledged offence. It may also sway the decision of the officer if he see's any previous/current endorsements even though they're meant to be impartial.

2. Send away for a new licence once past points are no longer valid. Standard points stay for 3 years, small bans are 5 years. This is helpfull for the above and also for Insurance companies if they ask for licence photocopies.

3. This last one is a touch dodgy. This is if you've been physically stopped and issued a ticket that will result in points, been given the 7 day producer and haven't handed over your licence on the scene. Do not produce to the same police station that the officer who pulled you over is based. Hopefully it won't be local to you but if so try another close by but not the same. Do not produce your licence with the rest of your documents. Instead write down your licence number and give them that saying it's lost and you're waiting a new one to be sent. They will caution you for this which is ridiculous but don't wory about that. They will typically ask for you to bring your licence in once it arrives which you don't ever do.

I have done this before and I never heard back about the offence, now over 2 years ago, which was being pulled for a not so mediocre 3 figure number on the motorway (not in a scooby). Abviously the lack of actual licence must have held up some system when transferring details from one station to the over but as they have my licence number, I hadn't really done anything wrong in terms of producing documents.

I doubt this is full proof and maybe I was very fortunate but I'd say it's worth a go.
My advice is to ignore this advice.
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see now i could get really on one and say , while the cameras were watching you, maybe they should have been concentrating their efforts somewhere else maybe .....just a thought ...hope all goes well
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Originally Posted by icedtoast
TBH you could get anything.

There's absolutely no consistency when dishing out any endorsement, especially when going to court.

Some advice I'd give to anyone whose pulled over for any offence from past experience...

1. Never show your licence, even if you have it on you. In the eyes of the law it's an admission of guilt to the alledged offence. It may also sway the decision of the officer if he see's any previous/current endorsements even though they're meant to be impartial.

2. Send away for a new licence once past points are no longer valid. Standard points stay for 3 years, small bans are 5 years. This is helpfull for the above and also for Insurance companies if they ask for licence photocopies.

3. This last one is a touch dodgy. This is if you've been physically stopped and issued a ticket that will result in points, been given the 7 day producer and haven't handed over your licence on the scene. Do not produce to the same police station that the officer who pulled you over is based. Hopefully it won't be local to you but if so try another close by but not the same. Do not produce your licence with the rest of your documents. Instead write down your licence number and give them that saying it's lost and you're waiting a new one to be sent. They will caution you for this which is ridiculous but don't wory about that. They will typically ask for you to bring your licence in once it arrives which you don't ever do.

I have done this before and I never heard back about the offence, now over 2 years ago, which was being pulled for a not so mediocre 3 figure number on the motorway (not in a scooby). Abviously the lack of actual licence must have held up some system when transferring details from one station to the over but as they have my licence number, I hadn't really done anything wrong in terms of producing documents.

I doubt this is full proof and maybe I was very fortunate but I'd say it's worth a go.
isnt it fool proof
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Originally Posted by icedtoast
3. This last one is a touch dodgy. This is if you've been physically stopped and issued a ticket that will result in points, been given the 7 day producer and haven't handed over your licence on the scene. Do not produce to the same police station that the officer who pulled you over is based. Hopefully it won't be local to you but if so try another close by but not the same. Do not produce your licence with the rest of your documents. Instead write down your licence number and give them that saying it's lost and you're waiting a new one to be sent. They will caution you for this which is ridiculous but don't wory about that. They will typically ask for you to bring your licence in once it arrives which you don't ever do.

I have done this before and I never heard back about the offence, now over 2 years ago, which was being pulled for a not so mediocre 3 figure number on the motorway (not in a scooby). Abviously the lack of actual licence must have held up some system when transferring details from one station to the over but as they have my licence number, I hadn't really done anything wrong in terms of producing documents.

I doubt this is full proof and maybe I was very fortunate but I'd say it's worth a go.
Got to agree with Hedgehog.

The only way you'll give you're licence over at the Police Station is if the PC issued you with a Fixed Penaly Notice ticket when you originally were stopped and reported. This is not the case, correct? If you was issued with a ticket you would then hold onto it and use it as your 'licence', whilst your actual licence is sent off to have your points put on.


If you fail to produce any of your documents (i.e both parts of your licence), you commit a further offence ( as well as the speeding). This will no doubt lead you to have your day in Court.
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Originally Posted by Adidas
Got to agree with Hedgehog.

The only way you'll give you're licence over at the Police Station is if the PC issued you with a Fixed Penaly Notice ticket when you originally were stopped and reported. This is not the case, correct? If you was issued with a ticket you would then hold onto it and use it as your 'licence', whilst your actual licence is sent off to have your points put on.


If you fail to produce any of your documents (i.e both parts of your licence), you commit a further offence ( as well as the speeding). This will no doubt lead you to have your day in Court.
They gave me a producer as i didn't have any documents on me, so i'll have to show them my licence
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I stand by my above sentiments then
Old 15 July 2005 | 06:29 AM
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the wonderful world of speed scamera's yes thats scamera's, was in hungary at the weekend my mate works over there he was saying if the cops do you you just get a 30 quid ( 10000 forrint) fine and no points. not too bad i thought but he said they can be arseholes and will try to dish em out ***** nilly.

some top man cut a speed camera clean off in telford made the paper and everything. speed camera was by the local college so i do understand the point for this.. as accidents had risen there but, they have still failed to put in either traffic lights or a pedestrian crossing so same kids only get hit by cars doing 30 now :/

if only they had to write a 5 page report on how the camera is justified to be used in that particular area i'd bet there would'nt be so many.
Old 15 July 2005 | 12:41 PM
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You may be interested in the following:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article...694858,00.html

Speed camera U-turn as 500 sites rejected
By Ben Webster, Transport Correspondent



THE Government is blocking the installation of nearly 500 new speed cameras amid signs that ministers are beginning to doubt the effectiveness of the devices.
The 38 camera partnerships, which include police forces and local authorities, have been ordered not to use cameras at any new sites. The ban includes places where there have been several fatal crashes caused by speeding vehicles.

The Association of Chief Police Officers (Acpo) condemned the ban, saying that it could cost lives because dangerous roads were being left unprotected by cameras.

The Department for Transport is reviewing the rules on deploying cameras after concerns that partnerships have failed to consider alternatives, such as improving junctions or erecting warning signs.
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
Hi folks

Oooops, got caught doing 99 mph this evening, told by the friendly policeman that i will have to go to court.

Anyone else been caught doing the same speed....and if so what did you get?

Got caught on one of those hand held radar things.
(4 lane motorway, and i was the only car on there)

Already got 3 points on my licence, so would prefer a short ban really (if it is going to be around 6 points).

p.s......yes i know it was very naughty, and i am a danger to innocent road users, and i should never do that speed etc etc before people post the usual comments regarding this.


Cheers

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Old 15 July 2005 | 11:31 PM
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97mph in a 70 10 years ago,6 points and a 150 fine.
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Originally Posted by sti-04!!
You sir are a prized class one CLOWN
Really? In that case we have enough clowns on this site to have a HUGE circus!

As you'll see from all the replies on this post it isn't just me who drives a little bit quicker than i should on an empty motorway.

Have you never done it then?
Old 31 October 2005 | 11:18 AM
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Went to court this morning.............

4 points and £200 fine

Could have been a lot worse i guess!!!!
Old 31 October 2005 | 11:26 AM
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Glad it wasn't too bad for you. I dunno if a road angel would have alerted you in time to this guy's presence, so my "advice" is to keep it under 90...
Old 31 October 2005 | 11:36 AM
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Thats not bad at all mate.

Dont forget to tell the insurance company
Old 31 October 2005 | 01:46 PM
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one of my friends went court last week for doing 98mph on empty motorway @4.30am
got banned for six months and £450 fine
Old 31 October 2005 | 01:59 PM
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have to confess tend to sit at 90 on the motorway, even had police car pull alongside once and hover for about ten seconds before pulling away, hardly any traffic around, had given early signal to pass the 1 car around for 2 miles pulled out in plenty of time and smothly, left plenty off room and smoothly back in and he must have seen that cos he caught me up about 30 seconds later.

think you have to drive to the conditions, ban isn't gonna happen unless you have lots of points already or are very unlucky. i know few peopl who have been done for 104 and got 6 points and a fine, even one of the police super intendants got done doing 104 and didn't get banned, one of the guys i know, who so happens to have a scoob and be on here even had the policeman who pulled him stand up in court and say he wasn't driving dangerously or badly was just going to fast (thats was 104 by the way)

think they are more bothered about people who drive like ****, cut in and out of trafic swerve when changing lanes etc. speed isn't bad as such its how you drive with that speed.
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Originally Posted by rb5ban91r
4 lane motorway on your own.... plod had nowt else better to do then i take it... barstiges...
Blah blah blah....yes as usual the police had nothing better to do than uphold the law
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Originally Posted by WRXPete
Blah blah blah....yes as usual the police had nothing better to do than uphold the law
Totally agree!!! They must of nicked all the uninsured,no M.O.T,no TAX drivers & all the morons driving like tw*ts in builtup areas by now & are just continuing the good work......yeah right.

Speed is relative to the conditions. The 70 m.p.h limit was introduced during the oil crisis when we were driving Morris Minors. Variable speed limits should be used .Don't tell me every piece of motorway is safe at 70 m.p.h at all times in all conditions.I believe the limit should be slower in some circumstances & higher than 70 m.p.h in others.
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a friend of mine got done in a radar trap by two plods at 103. 3 points & 60 fine, no court appearance, nothing. in a TT.

he tells me its the one & only time he's been over 100. gutted i am frequently >100 and (so far, touch wood etc) never been flashed etc. but i look out for plod & cameras like a hawk & use Tom Tom with checkPOInt GPS camera detector on any roads i haven't driven recently.

the bird ain't so lucky, got done for DD and got an 18 month ban (only £100 fine though, thanks to my spreadsheets i took to court- proving that it cost her £200 a month more to live than she got paid (NOT ACTUALLY TRUE ), and the fact that i was well off had nothing to do with it as i wasn't going to pay it off for her- they let her pay it at £10 a week!)

she'd only been driving about a year, but for some reason when the ban was up she got sent her full licence back!

fingers crossed at the mo though, cos she's been on a long journey to & from bristol at night and seemed oblivious to the fact that to get there she must have driven through a 20 mile section of 50mph SPECS cameras with no traffic on the road (OH CR4P!)
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
Thats not bad at all mate.

Dont forget to tell the insurance company
He is the insurance company...

You were pretty lucky there mate - well done.


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have been through the same sort of thing earlier on in the year, i was caught doing 87 on the motorway, etc etc went to court got £170 fine and 5 points !!!!! i have also been doing some finding out of my own as some of you may allready know the police do NOT have to make them selves visable to the motorist, but in no instance they also say they do not operate covertally, hiding in bushes, hiding the police car, not using reflective vests etc etc etc again i am not hear for any argument for or against just some of my own thoughts.....
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The thread asks for any advice.... Here's mine...

Theres a dial on the dash that tells you how fast you / your car is travelling at, and there are laws about what the speed limits are on certain types of road.
My first piece of advise is to learn what the dials on the dash are for, I worry you may also run out of petrol or over rev your car if you are currently so unaware
Secondly learn the speed limits documented within the highway code and understand the word limit - no where is there reference to speed targets within this publication.
Thirdly - understand that because others do it shouldnt make it right and how many cars or who many lanes me jack **** when you're simply braking the law.... Justifying it is quite pathetic
Fourthly - Dont try and prevent messages like mine with sarcastic closures to your thread opening posts. If you arent able to corrollate car speed with speed limits, OR if you hold British law in such disregard then you derserve a bit of a ribbing...

Anyhoo at least you took your points on the chin unlike many others. Fair play... Please take my advice on board... If you follow it you might just keep your license...

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Originally Posted by Abdabz
The thread asks for any advice.... Here's mine...

Theres a dial on the dash that tells you how fast you and your car is travelling at and there are laws about what speed limits are on certain types of road.
My first piece of advise is to learn what the dials on the dash are for, I worry you may also run out of petrol or over rev your car perhaps if you are currently so inept
Secondly learn the speed limits documented within the highway code andunderstand the word limit - no where is there reference to speed targets within this guide on how to drive properly.
Thirdly - understand that because others do it shouldnt make it right.
Fourthly - Dont try and prevent messages like mine with sarcastic closures to your thread opening posts. If you arent able to corrollate car speed with speed limits, if you hold British law in such diregard or are too incompetent to notice your error you derserve a bit of a ribbing...

Anyhoo at least you took your points on the chin unlike many others. Fair play... Please take my advice on board... If you follow it you might just keep your license...
^^ there's no need to be a w@nker. we all do it, some of us are lucky some aren't.
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Originally Posted by Abdabz
The thread asks for any advice.... Here's mine...

Theres a dial on the dash that tells you how fast you and your car is travelling at and there are laws about what speed limits are on certain types of road.
My first piece of advise is to learn what the dials on the dash are for, I worry you may also run out of petrol or over rev your car perhaps if you are currently so inept
Secondly learn the speed limits documented within the highway code andunderstand the word limit - no where is there reference to speed targets within this guide on how to drive properly.
Thirdly - understand that because others do it shouldnt make it right.
Fourthly - Dont try and prevent messages like mine with sarcastic closures to your thread opening posts. If you arent able to corrollate car speed with speed limits, if you hold British law in such diregard or are too incompetent to notice your error you derserve a bit of a ribbing...

Anyhoo at least you took your points on the chin unlike many others. Fair play... Please take my advice on board... If you follow it you might just keep your license...
^^ there's no need to be a w@nker about it. we all do it, some of us are lucky and don't get caught some aren't so lucky (i meant about the speeding ... but)
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Awwww you quoted my unedited version Gutted
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yeah and i did it twice...i'm not actually that gutted
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Originally Posted by DonnieDarko
^^ there's no need to be a w@nker about it. we all do it, some of us are lucky and don't get caught some aren't so lucky (i meant about the speeding ... but)
I must agree though, look how many of us are getting caught speeding! no wonder our insurance is so high!

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Originally Posted by Abdabz
The thread asks for any advice.... Here's mine...

Theres a dial on the dash that tells you how fast you / your car is travelling at, and there are laws about what the speed limits are on certain types of road.
My first piece of advise is to learn what the dials on the dash are for, I worry you may also run out of petrol or over rev your car if you are currently so unaware
Secondly learn the speed limits documented within the highway code and understand the word limit - no where is there reference to speed targets within this publication.
Thirdly - understand that because others do it shouldnt make it right and how many cars or who many lanes me jack **** when you're simply braking the law.... Justifying it is quite pathetic
Fourthly - Dont try and prevent messages like mine with sarcastic closures to your thread opening posts. If you arent able to corrollate car speed with speed limits, OR if you hold British law in such disregard then you derserve a bit of a ribbing...

Anyhoo at least you took your points on the chin unlike many others. Fair play... Please take my advice on board... If you follow it you might just keep your license...
If that's your best advice you must try harder !

Rob


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