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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 10:12 PM
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Why should this thread be vaped? Its at the most polite and friendly level in its history.

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Someone suggested it.

Deep - You are a Doctor, right ?
I've been researching theories on spontaneous generation and how cell theory arose. Could you please tell me what Miller and Urey's experiment was, and what the criticisms of the experiment have been?

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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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Originally Posted by jods
Someone suggested it.

Deep - You are a Doctor, right ?
I've been researching theories on spontaneous generation and how cell theory arose. Could you please tell me what Miller and Urey's experiment was, and what the criticisms of the experiment have been?

Jods more than happy to give you my take on that. Not sure why you are so interested because the original experiments took place in the 50s iirc

This time though things will be more fair. Tell me what you do and let me ask you a question about that. Fair? I'm sure you'll agree

Look forward to an interesting conversation

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ps or are you a secret agent along with the others here? No wonder Mi5 and The CIA get it all wrong, they're all on Scoobynet talking to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 10:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
Jods more than happy to give you my take on that. Not sure why you are so interested because the original experiments took place in the 50s iirc

This time though things will be more fair. Tell me what you do and let me ask you a question about that. Fair? I'm sure you'll agree

Look forward to an interesting conversation

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ps or are you a secret agent along with the others here? No wonder Mi5 and The CIA get it all wrong, they're all on Scoobynet talking to me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok - to be fair those experiments WERE done in the 50's so I couldn't really expect a comprehensive answer could I.

Can you then tell me why it is that when you have a fever you feel cold ?
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 10:42 PM
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This time though things will be more fair. Tell me what you do and let me ask you a question about that. Fair? I'm sure you'll agree
I own and run an IT training company. I am also an Oracle Financial Analyser 11i DBA and a Microsoft Certified Professional. I also have property overseas which I rent out to nice people - like you
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jods
I own and run an IT training company. I am also an Oracle Financial Analyser 11i DBA and a Microsoft Certified Professional. I also have property overseas which I rent out to nice people - like you
I did'nt ask about your property portfolio mate!!

Whats an Oracle Financial Analyser then?
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 10:50 PM
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jeees deep, little ginge has obviously captured your heart you cant shut up about her
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 10:51 PM
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a Microsoft Certified Professional. [/QUOTE]

I'm allowed to certify people too. Is that the same thing?
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by jods
Can you then tell me why it is that when you have a fever you feel cold ?
The hypothalamus, a part of the brain just above the pituitary gland, contains the body's "thermostat." It senses the temperature of the blood and compares it with a "setpoint"—the desired temperature. If the actual temperature differs from the setpoint, it tries to adjust the temperature. This is similar to what a thermostat in your house or car does. However, it can't just turn on the furnace or the air conditioner. Instead, it sends out signals that cause us to sweat if we are too hot or to shiver if we are too cold. (Sweating cools the body as the sweat evaporates; shivering warms the body, because much of the energy used by shivering muscles is converted to heat.) In addition, it causes us to feel uncomfortable, which prompts us to seek out a source of heat or cold. For example, if your body temperature is too low, you'll look for a warmer place or some blankets. If it's too high, you'll look for a cooler spot or reduce your exercise level (since exercise generates heat).

When you develop a fever, the body sends signals to the hypothalamus that tells it to raise the setpoint to a higher temperature. Often, but not always, this is a response to an infection, such as a bacterium or a virus. The immune cells that respond to the infection secrete molecules called "endogenous pyrogens." (Endogenous means made by the body, and a pyrogen is something that causes the temperature to rise.) The endogenous pyrogens travel through the blood and reach the hypothalamus, where they cause the setpoint to increase. Once that happens, the hypothalamus tells the body, "You're too cold." Remember that the temperature may be normal in this situation, but what matters is that the temperature is lower than the setpoint, which has been raised. So you feel cold, get under the blankets, and shiver.

A while later, when the temperature has risen to the setpoint, the hypothalamus sends out the signal, "Your temperature is fine now." Then you no longer feel cold and often throw off some of the blankets. And when the fever "breaks," the level of endogenous pyrogens decreases, the hypothalamus changes its setpoint back to normal, and now the elevated temperature again seems too hot. Suddenly you start to sweat and throw off all the blankets! Soon this leads to a decrease in temperature back to the normal setpoint, and you feel normal again.

So you actually feel coldest when the temperature is starting to rise and hottest when it's starting to fall. This seems strange, but it's all the hypothalamus's way of getting you to alter your behavior to change the temperature to a new setpoint. When your temperature is at the setpoint—whatever it is—you tend to feel normal, even if the actual temperature is high. What you perceive is not the temperature itself, but the difference between the setpoint and the actual temperature.


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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby stu!!
jeees deep, little ginge has obviously captured your heart you cant shut up about her
You've found me out!!

Sleepless nights. Started working out harder, sucking in my stomach. I've got it bad!!!
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Soulgirl
The hypothalamus, a part of the brain just above the pituitary gland, contains the body's "thermostat." It senses the temperature of the blood and compares it with a "setpoint"—the desired temperature. If the actual temperature differs from the setpoint, it tries to adjust the temperature. This is similar to what a thermostat in your house or car does. However, it can't just turn on the furnace or the air conditioner. Instead, it sends out signals that cause us to sweat if we are too hot or to shiver if we are too cold. (Sweating cools the body as the sweat evaporates; shivering warms the body, because much of the energy used by shivering muscles is converted to heat.) In addition, it causes us to feel uncomfortable, which prompts us to seek out a source of heat or cold. For example, if your body temperature is too low, you'll look for a warmer place or some blankets. If it's too high, you'll look for a cooler spot or reduce your exercise level (since exercise generates heat).

When you develop a fever, the body sends signals to the hypothalamus that tells it to raise the setpoint to a higher temperature. Often, but not always, this is a response to an infection, such as a bacterium or a virus. The immune cells that respond to the infection secrete molecules called "endogenous pyrogens." (Endogenous means made by the body, and a pyrogen is something that causes the temperature to rise.) The endogenous pyrogens travel through the blood and reach the hypothalamus, where they cause the setpoint to increase. Once that happens, the hypothalamus tells the body, "You're too cold." Remember that the temperature may be normal in this situation, but what matters is that the temperature is lower than the setpoint, which has been raised. So you feel cold, get under the blankets, and shiver.

A while later, when the temperature has risen to the setpoint, the hypothalamus sends out the signal, "Your temperature is fine now." Then you no longer feel cold and often throw off some of the blankets. And when the fever "breaks," the level of endogenous pyrogens decreases, the hypothalamus changes its setpoint back to normal, and now the elevated temperature again seems too hot. Suddenly you start to sweat and throw off all the blankets! Soon this leads to a decrease in temperature back to the normal setpoint, and you feel normal again.

So you actually feel coldest when the temperature is starting to rise and hottest when it's starting to fall. This seems strange, but it's all the hypothalamus's way of getting you to alter your behavior to change the temperature to a new setpoint. When your temperature is at the setpoint—whatever it is—you tend to feel normal, even if the actual temperature is high. What you perceive is not the temperature itself, but the difference between the setpoint and the actual temperature.


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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 10:56 PM
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Deep... now you're just playing with us
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 10:59 PM
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I also have property overseas which I rent out to nice people - like you [/QUOTE]

Got my own mate! I keep it just for myself though!!
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
What she said
And I have only had a fever once, when I was around 28 and contracted flu... not like you pansy blokes think is flu, I mean real flu - couldn't get out of bed for 5 days and felt like someone shot a bolt through the back of my head.

I've only really been ill once more after that - people hate me for that - it's all in the mind you know
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 11:02 PM
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I need to look for a skipping through the daisies emoticon
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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Soulgirl
Deep... now you're just playing with us
No, better than I could have put it at this time of night ( after a few beers)

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Old Jul 1, 2005 | 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
I did'nt ask about your property portfolio mate!!

Whats an Oracle Financial Analyser then?
It's a multi - threaded, multi - dimensional OLAP forecasting, tracking and planning system. Better than an abacus
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 08:57 AM
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It's a multi - threaded, multi - dimensional OLAP forecasting, tracking and planning system. Better than an abacus

Sounds really boring
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by scooby stu!!
jeees deep, little ginge has obviously captured your heart you cant shut up about her
pmsl...

Sarasquares - thanks for standing in, mate ..had more important things to be doing/worrying about..
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 12:23 PM
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What are you suffering with little-ginge, if I might ask
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Soulgirl
What are you suffering with little-ginge, if I might ask
You may ask.. but I don't wish to broadcast it to everyone on here..sorry!!

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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by little-ginge
pmsl...

Sarasquares - thanks for standing in, mate ..had more important things to be doing/worrying about..

i havnt done anything yet..shall i get out my bug spray
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
i havnt done anything yet..shall i get out my bug spray
do you think it'll work??

do you charge for standing in??
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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naaaaaa not if he's got his stethascope(sp) on
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Old Jul 2, 2005 | 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
Sounds really boring
It might sound boring

but you're still a c ock


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why is he called singe though?.must be horrible with a name like that
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by sarasquares
i havnt done anything yet..shall i get out my bug spray
Yes, you can use it on your xxxxx to keep the flies off!!

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Originally Posted by jods
It might sound boring

but you're still a c ock


yeah, but you're a boring c ock
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Old Jul 5, 2005 | 12:58 PM
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On a serious note, Ginge, I do hope you get better soon. Six months off sick is no joke.
Agree 100% about not disclosing it here(d'ont agree about the job bit though). As I said before must be serious enough to have a young adult unable to work for six months

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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
On a serious note, Ginge, I do hope you get better soon. Six months off sick is no joke.
Agree 100% about not disclosing it here(d'ont agree about the job bit though). As I said before must be serious enough to have a young adult unable to work for six months

Deep
it's a bit longer than that now.. and trust me I wouldnt be off unless i had to be.. i miss my job...

is this DS attempt at being nice or is he trying to get me to bite..??
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