Do you let your kids in the car without belts?
#31
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The kids always belt up, as for adults I don't give a **** whether they wear one or not so long as they aren't sat behind me I just tell 'em that I'll leave the bill for the windscreen in their get well card
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I was a bit cross a few weeks back when a parent was taking my eldest to the pictures and because thier people carrier broke down (7 seats), they put six people in a Fiat Cinqicento, not impressed as those things are not safe for 1 person never mind six, I would rather they missed the film.
People say that in their day they never wore a belt and they had ten in the car, yeah but the ones who did have accidents arent here to tell the tale, plus thirty years ago most cars were small, slow and flimsy, try getting hit by the new discovery when in a tiny Fiat, those things weigh five times as much, doubt they would even notice.
I remeber rolling about in the back of a Chevette with the seats down, four kids in the back coming back from banger racing in Buxton.
People say that in their day they never wore a belt and they had ten in the car, yeah but the ones who did have accidents arent here to tell the tale, plus thirty years ago most cars were small, slow and flimsy, try getting hit by the new discovery when in a tiny Fiat, those things weigh five times as much, doubt they would even notice.
I remeber rolling about in the back of a Chevette with the seats down, four kids in the back coming back from banger racing in Buxton.
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Originally Posted by paul-s
I dont impose my actions on anyone else
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Originally Posted by CrisPDuk
The kids always belt up, as for adults I don't give a **** whether they wear one or not so long as they aren't sat behind me I just tell 'em that I'll leave the bill for the windscreen in their get well card
Starts off boy and girl play on a park bench waiting for their friends to show up in a car. "This is Michael, today he is going to hit his girlfriend so hard, she will end up with permanent brain damage" says the voiceover.
They climb into the car and drive off. Michael is the only one in the car who is not wearing a seatbelt. The car crashes and Michael is knocked about inside the car, (part of a very graphic crash scene that was VERY well made), hitting everyone in some form or other, and killing them. Then he flies back and his head thumps off his girlfriends head and he hits her that hard she gets brain damage. You even hear the crack as their heads hit.
It then cuts to show the 3 dead bodies being put in the ambulance and the ambulance man says, "Three dead in this vehicle, they said the guy without the seatbelt did the damage...".
#36
Originally Posted by paul-s
ffs im not trying to rebell, i just dont wear one. my f-ing choice. I dont impose my actions on anyone else, I just havnt since i began driving 5 years ago. Should really start but never think of it.
did you teach yourself to drive?? or did you have lessons from a driving school?
if the latter, they would have most certianly insisted on you wearing one..
you would also have had to for a test!!!
so in all honesty theres no excuse...
M
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Originally Posted by J4CKO
I was a bit cross a few weeks back when a parent was taking my eldest to the pictures and because thier people carrier broke down (7 seats), they put six people in a Fiat Cinqicento, not impressed as those things are not safe for 1 person never mind six, I would rather they missed the film.
People say that in their day they never wore a belt and they had ten in the car, yeah but the ones who did have accidents arent here to tell the tale, plus thirty years ago most cars were small, slow and flimsy, try getting hit by the new discovery when in a tiny Fiat, those things weigh five times as much, doubt they would even notice.
I remeber rolling about in the back of a Chevette with the seats down, four kids in the back coming back from banger racing in Buxton.
People say that in their day they never wore a belt and they had ten in the car, yeah but the ones who did have accidents arent here to tell the tale, plus thirty years ago most cars were small, slow and flimsy, try getting hit by the new discovery when in a tiny Fiat, those things weigh five times as much, doubt they would even notice.
I remeber rolling about in the back of a Chevette with the seats down, four kids in the back coming back from banger racing in Buxton.
very interesting as thats not a million miles from the mum with 7 kids in the car off for birthday treat - just like the crash in Oxford at the weekend. Now 3 parents are minus their kids.......which promted my interest.
we often take kids and their mates in the galaxy (6 seater) and if there are too many kids they dont go...simple as that. If my kids were overloaded in a car i would be VERY pissed off indeed.
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Originally Posted by Mick
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There does seem to be a wealth bias to the seatbelts thing, often see people in beaten up old Orion's and Cavalier's with a gang of little shaven headed kids stood up in the back, big fat mum in the front with a baby on the lap and dad minus his shirt showing his tattoos, all smoking ****, even the baby. Also, and this is an observation and not a racial slur, the Asian community seem to pay less attention to safety and allow their kids to stand up, see it everday when driving back from Manchester and it is worrying as a minor bump in town could easily kill a kid in a car that would otherwise be fine if strapped in.
And how many old persons turn up in casualty each year with a Yorkshire Terrier or West Highland Terrier embedded in the backs of their skulls ?
Wheras the middle classes are more likely to be able to afford never cars and get all worked up about Euro Ncap results and Isofix cup holders, then go totally overboard and make everybody else less safe by buying a three tonne off roader because it gets 5 stars.
And how many old persons turn up in casualty each year with a Yorkshire Terrier or West Highland Terrier embedded in the backs of their skulls ?
Wheras the middle classes are more likely to be able to afford never cars and get all worked up about Euro Ncap results and Isofix cup holders, then go totally overboard and make everybody else less safe by buying a three tonne off roader because it gets 5 stars.
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IIRC, not only is it the law that you have to wear a seatbelt and all your passengers do too (if fitted), but you the driver are also committing an offence by allowing passengers not to wear one.
If anyone wants to be without a seatbelt in my car in the UK, they can walk. And with my and other people's driving in Portugal, they tend to put it on without asking
If anyone wants to be without a seatbelt in my car in the UK, they can walk. And with my and other people's driving in Portugal, they tend to put it on without asking
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We've always insisted kids, and anyone else, wear seatbelts in our car and any car we travel in. Like us, the kids do it naturally and know the reason why they do it. Not because it's the law - because it may save your life!
The adverts are great. Why the hell do they play them between 11pm and 5am when nobody is really watching? Obviously it's a cost thing. Why not let them be played on BBC stations for FREE? I would like to think that something like this is better than a trailer for the tenth repeat of coffin-dodgers collectables.
The adverts are great. Why the hell do they play them between 11pm and 5am when nobody is really watching? Obviously it's a cost thing. Why not let them be played on BBC stations for FREE? I would like to think that something like this is better than a trailer for the tenth repeat of coffin-dodgers collectables.
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[QUOTE=J4CKO]There does seem to be a wealth bias to the seatbelts thing, often see people in beaten up old Orion's and Cavalier's with a gang of little shaven headed kids stood up in the back, big fat mum in the front with a baby on the lap and dad minus his shirt showing his tattoos, all smoking ****, even the baby. QUOTE]
LOL excellent! - there is something about 'different groups' If you are brighter and harder working you are more likely to be able to afford a newer car as well as have the desire to follow safety guidelines... - just a thought
Mick
As for the 4x4 comment... we'll leave that for now J4CKO
LOL excellent! - there is something about 'different groups' If you are brighter and harder working you are more likely to be able to afford a newer car as well as have the desire to follow safety guidelines... - just a thought
Mick
As for the 4x4 comment... we'll leave that for now J4CKO
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paul-s,
How old are you? (I don't see it mentioned elsehwhere on the thread).
How long did it take for you to pass your driving test and how many driving lessons did you have? Were they with a driving school? Did you drive a car before you were legally allowed to, for example, on a bit of scrap land or a field?
Just curious, as are others, as to why you don't feel you're being a tad silly in not wearing a seatbelt and how you've not been indoctrined to wear one when taking driving lessons and the driving test. Obviously you'd only need to put it on for a short while when taking the test.
I have to admit it's second nature to me to put a belt on and it just does not feel right if I'm in ther driving seat not wearing one.
Yes there are times when I'll take it off, to remove a coat, and I know that is iresponsible and silly, so I'm not trying for the "goody two-shoes" thing here.
I grew up not having to wear one in the back, but as soon as the law came into effect, my dad forced us to wear belts in the back, so it became second nature.
How old are you? (I don't see it mentioned elsehwhere on the thread).
How long did it take for you to pass your driving test and how many driving lessons did you have? Were they with a driving school? Did you drive a car before you were legally allowed to, for example, on a bit of scrap land or a field?
Just curious, as are others, as to why you don't feel you're being a tad silly in not wearing a seatbelt and how you've not been indoctrined to wear one when taking driving lessons and the driving test. Obviously you'd only need to put it on for a short while when taking the test.
I have to admit it's second nature to me to put a belt on and it just does not feel right if I'm in ther driving seat not wearing one.
Yes there are times when I'll take it off, to remove a coat, and I know that is iresponsible and silly, so I'm not trying for the "goody two-shoes" thing here.
I grew up not having to wear one in the back, but as soon as the law came into effect, my dad forced us to wear belts in the back, so it became second nature.
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Many, many, many, many years ago, when my son was just a toddler and before the law came into effect about seat belts, we were away on holiday once and he was in the back of our then Austin Princess ( I think). We were'nt going very fast, but had to brake quickly. Boy did that kid move back to front swiftly ! His head met the radio and he got a pretty nasty cut above his eye.
Lesson learned! It could have been so much worse had we been travelling any faster.
I must add, we do not have tattoos, we are not chavs, or wear our hair in crew cuts etc. as previously stated in other parts of this thread. I guess you'd put it down to plain ignorance. Now if I see any kids roaming around the back or front of a moving vehicle, its more than my other half can do to prevent me offering some form of sign language to the offending driver.
Lesson learned! It could have been so much worse had we been travelling any faster.
I must add, we do not have tattoos, we are not chavs, or wear our hair in crew cuts etc. as previously stated in other parts of this thread. I guess you'd put it down to plain ignorance. Now if I see any kids roaming around the back or front of a moving vehicle, its more than my other half can do to prevent me offering some form of sign language to the offending driver.
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Hi again, to answer Markus' point and others, im 23. yes passed test wearing belt obviously as with lessons previous to this. Started driving first car when 17 (6 years this month) and always wore a belt.
To be honest it just gradually deteriorated as I was doing deliveries I was always jumping in and out, and got to the point where I havent really noticed until reading this thread that I actually hardly ever put it on. Looks like Im on my own here, but stand at the side of a busy junction and watch how many people drive past without their belt on ! more than you think.
To be honest it just gradually deteriorated as I was doing deliveries I was always jumping in and out, and got to the point where I havent really noticed until reading this thread that I actually hardly ever put it on. Looks like Im on my own here, but stand at the side of a busy junction and watch how many people drive past without their belt on ! more than you think.
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For me, everyone in the car wears a belt and my 3 year old daughter has a full seat booster. Family members who drive with my daughter know that everyone belts up or she doesn't go with them. Adults in the back of my car belt up and I will if travelling in the back of a car. I actually feel uncomfortable without the belt on.
My mother finds a belt uncomfortable across her chest and used to not wear a belt at all. Her excuse was that as she drove either a BMW or Merc she was safer. I did point out it didn't matter what the badge was when it was stuck in your stomach and since my daughter was born she will use it all the time.
She had a very serious accident many year ago which removed most of her left temple so you'd think she wouldn't hesitate to put one on.
My mother finds a belt uncomfortable across her chest and used to not wear a belt at all. Her excuse was that as she drove either a BMW or Merc she was safer. I did point out it didn't matter what the badge was when it was stuck in your stomach and since my daughter was born she will use it all the time.
She had a very serious accident many year ago which removed most of her left temple so you'd think she wouldn't hesitate to put one on.
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Thanks for the answers. Wasn't having a go, was interested. I can see that all the hopping in and out as a delivery driver could mean you'd not normally have the belt on and you just get into a groove.
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