Yes, it's belongs to Colin Tinto and is definately worth a look. More info here

An engine rebuild on a 22b isn't uncommon, they're not overly happy running on UK fuel, and really need some form of aftermarket ECU to sort this out, as the stock ECU can't be re-mapped. I would not worry about a rebuilt engine one one, provided that it was done properly.

Adam, it would be very easy to tell if the wrong sealant had been used, just look where the block halves join and you can usually see traces of it. If it's Freebond then it will be light grey...Personally I don't see how a supposidly freshly rebuilt engine with oil leaks and signs of poor assembly which is how I would judge not using the correct Subaru sealant (which as we know isn't exactly expensive or difficult to get hold of!) to be an early warning sign for untold horrors...

Oh and I still think the nail in the tyre somes this poor car up rather well

 

does sound like a shedload of trivial stuff.... in fact when i'm rebuilding i use a 'different' sealant to the manufacturers... as i've found it to be superior. does that make it wrong?

as regards the leak it's difficult to say without seeing the extent of it, but i've seen oily engines with better internals than clean ones.. beware the steam-cleaned minter!

paint here and there and a few minor repairs on a Scoob? that is unusual i guess, given the extremely thick metal and unchippable paint (Lol)

maybe getting the report before laying down a deposit might be an idea next time.... it is a long list, but a long list of very small things.

Owain

 

Well said.

 

Thanks for the link. I've had a look on that thread and the car sounds good.

Guess its worth the trip to Fife then!

 

Owain, I have one thing to say to you...RS200 I would liken this car to that onea few years ago

 

exactly... and we saw how quickly that was sorted out. Surely negotiating a lower price after sticking the report under the dealer's nose might have been an option?

so, did the report on the one you eventually bought have nothing at all on it?

 

I'd still wait for a 'minter' but then again my standards are obviously way higher than some

F

 

would you buy it if you were in the market for a 22B???


I saw Peter yesterday and mentioned this car, and he just started to laugh, it is in a rather poor state of repair shall we say, especially considering the 'genuine' mileage of 38,000!!!!!
The carpets, pedal rubbers were worn etc.
He has seen enough Scoobies in his time to spot a 'wrong un'

 

Have a look in the for sale section on 22b.com. There is actually a 22B there, which is rare!

Colin is a true enthusiast and his car will have been very well looked after. Thise belonging to contributors of that forum often have no expense spared on them. Colin's is certainly no option.

You can even ask him questions about it on line.

That would certainly be the one I would look at, or you can look at mine for 35/40k!

 

CAS on the Wirral do the rebuilds for Graham Walker!!!! They supplied an engine for them, I think for a 22B, and they put the hoses on the wrong way round when re-fitting, and BLEW it up again!!!

 

Graham Walkers are pretty good in my opinion.The 22b in question doesn't appear to be a very good example according to the report,but perhaps it has been driven hard as Subaru intended rather than been wrapped in cotton wool all its life.
Deposits are rarely refundable unless stated in writing so it was reasonable of them to give a partial refund.
I recently purchased a car from Graham Walkers and had one or two little concerns about it which I might add were quickly rectified.
Although on the original thread they weren't initially named,enough clues were given to identify them as not many 'amazing' 22b's were advertised at that time.
Both threads could potentially cost them a lot of business not just with the 22b but with any other cars they might be selling,so it isn't really surprising they are a little bit hacked off.
As for the three month warranty,my car is going in next week to have a new camshaft position sensor fitted under this warranty.Although this part isn't actually covered as part of the warranty Graham Walkers are fixing it as a goodwill jesture.
I recently took my car to a Subaru agent to have a diagnostic check carried out and after having a good look at the car they said what a good example it was and were amazed at what a good deal I had got on it.
I am not suggesting that everybody should rush out and buy the 22b as if the report is accurate and as Prosport are very well respected I am sure it is perhaps this isn't a particularly good example,but please do not let this put you off using Graham Walkers in general because I am very happy with the service I have so far received,I am happy with my car and I am happy with the warranty service provided.

 

sitting in the car now at holyhead docks waiting to go to ireland. will be away for a bit. all i can say is the reort is there 4 the car. if you think its the one for you then go get it, it wasnt the right one for me and i have no confidence in the dealer. as for the comment about walkers being pissed off about this, well i hope they are as im pissed off about it too. leasr i havent got a car like that to try and sell

 

they should be pissed off, but at the end of the day they were in a position to be able to get out of it, all they had to do was give the man his money back!

they knew that.

now we all know that, I for one wouldnt touch them with a barge pole, and ile damn well make sure anyone I know does exactly the same, and im fairly sure that will go for a lot more people on here.

The report was quite damming in the fact that the car is advertised as such an amazing specimin, yet when an independent report was carried out showing many many defects, walkers still refused to return the full deposit, thats bloody discraceful, as some have said they feel that the points made were extremely minor, but in my opinion if buying a car of that caliber for that much, id expect it to be bloody perfect! they should have returned the full amount immidietly.

as such they decided to penny pinch, and as such we all now know not to go near them!

shaggy

 

I bought an 02WRX from them 2 and a half months back. The car is a minter - but had it not been for the fact it had very low miles in the right colour at the right price I'd have walked away. The customer service was appalling. I had to practically beg for a test drive just because I hadnt rung in advance. The test drive comprised of twice round a 30mph industrial estate... They didnt even put dust caps on the car when I picked it up...It took 3 weeks to do the reg transfer because they insisted everything was done by post (other dealers usually take the info to the DVLA round here) - To be fair they did finally go in person having cocked up the forms etc etc...They put on a boost gauge for me which it seems is velcroed to a base and is now falling off...
In short I got a good car in a half decent deal - but when I drove it away, knew there was no way I would ever ever return...

 

I agree with what some of it says, the worn parts will be wear and tear for a car, but not at 38k, the damage/repaired parts on the car, like the roof for instance, the bumper etc, sounds like its had more than a hard life, and as for carpet, well if my last mondeo's carpet still looked good (with 108k on the clock) then so should a 22B's (and my MY00 PPP'd scoob with 36k looked like it was new inside ).
Id go with anything that Pete pointed out, especially if i were a potential buyer, and also, not disclosing any previous damage on this car by the dealer actually breaks trading standards rules as they are suppose to let you know things like this.

Tony

 

Sod them, they tried to sell a dog of car that was not as advertised.

Maybe they did not know the full condition of the car, which would mark them out as useless.
Maybe they did know, which marks them out as decitfull

But they know now, and still advertise it as 'amazing'

Let them be hacked off, hope they loose a lot of trade.

 

spot on gary, just what i was thinking

 

I am not defending that particular car but as I stated earlier Graham Walkers have looked after me and I have actually bought a car from them and have used the warranty they provide with no problems.
The great thing about public forums is that they allow anyone to express their opinions,Scoobynutta had a bad experience with Graham Walkers which no doubt caused him a lot of stress and some financial loss,whereas I was very happy with the car I recently bought from them.I am glad Scoobynutta got a good car in the end because that is what we all want.
Having said all this though,I do agree that returning the deposit in this instance with the backing of an engineers report would have saved a lot of grief on both sides.

 

I've been following these threads from the beginning, but not bothered to post anything as yet.

It appears that there is no doubt that the report is accurate, and unbiased. The fact that the dealers are still advertising the car as amazing is just incredable. For me, that fact alone says all I need to know. I will not ever by using them.

I would also suggest that the report is forwarded to Trading Standards. Therefore whomever purchases this car in the future should have a greater chance of redress. The report proves that the dealers are fully aware of the car's condition, and yet still advertise it as amazing.

It does not matter if a place sells mostly good cars, some good cars, or mostly bad ones. It is what they do about problems, and how honest they are about the cars they are selling that is important.

 

I was in Graham Walkers a few days ago

If this is the car that is still advertised on their site as the "Amazing car" then it is now sold (well there is a sold sign on it)

 

Can't comment on the car - but I do know that getting the rocker covers to seal can be a bugger. And you can't really check it over to rectify until the engine is either running on a dyno or in the car.

It sounds like it is all fixable - however given the range of issues I would still question whether I would want to own a car that had been prepared for sale in that way.

To date I have only been in one 22b that has really impressed me - and the owner has had that one for years now and it sits on his drive unused

Rannoch

PS Just seen the ad - says the 22b wheels are by OZ - genuine wheels are magnesium ones made by BBS and cost around £2,500 a set - could be a typo though

 

Lucky escape mate, well done for sticking to your guns, hope you get the balance of your deposit back.

no mention of the MAF going ?

 

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Apparently as I have not got in writing that the purchase of the car is subject to inspection then Im not entitled to a deposit back.

Absolute crap - the car was mis advertised which caused you to be £500 out of pocket. If the dealer is refusing to refund this amount simply go to your local county court, pick up a claim for and sue him. Claims up to £500 will cost you £50 initially, but he will be liable for this cost if (when in this case) you win.

You do not need legal representation - you can represent yourself. So long as you have a recipt for the deposit and a copy of the advert and your report there should be no question that this car was mis advertised which caused you financial loss.

 

now its advertised for 36k rofl

 

Before I got the Spec C I looked at various JDM STi's & one in particular, from a well known source on here I might add, had accident damage that was not disclosed

TX.