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Old 30 May 2005, 10:03 AM
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Old 30 May 2005, 10:29 AM
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Hi Lee thanks for the comments your not so bad yourself mate its a shame you missed the breakfast have you finished all the pies yet

Let me know when you want to sell it i might be interested mate im collecting them now

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Old 30 May 2005, 11:22 AM
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A big thanks from me for my bumpsteer and geometry.

As expected the car feels so much better, getting around corners is so easy and precise now (just like a scooby should be).

Old 30 May 2005, 02:05 PM
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Bob, that's what i thought!
I was convinced the Uk limiter was at 7100.

Where does the rollers pick up the RPM information from?
From what i could see there was no phsical connection to the car for this information, so i assume it's worked out through, gearing/tyre diameter/ road speed etc.

If so i have 17's on with 205/45/17 tyres with not much tread left which could have thrown it out.

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Old 30 May 2005, 02:14 PM
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i thought uk cars rev higher than 7000 cos on the day quite a few did including fuzz's car which then put out 448bhp
Old 30 May 2005, 02:38 PM
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My rev limit is 7400 I think rich took it to the limiter as it reved to 7375.

As for Dan's, I suspect someone forgot to calibrate the machine to the car...
This should have been done for each car as they are put on the rollers.
Rich holds the rpm at 3000 by looking at the rev counter on the car, then hits a button on the remote that tells the computer that the current speed the rollers are doing equals 3000 engine rpm.
either that, or the rpm counter on the car is out
I can't think of any other reason.


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Old 30 May 2005, 04:04 PM
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Ahh that's how you do it.
Next time we can use the rpm read out on the secs monitor direct form the ecu. that should be a little more accurate.

Dan.
Old 30 May 2005, 11:06 PM
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http://www.ashlyn.plus.com/work/shootout/rrgraph.xlr

Much easier to fill out now.

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Old 30 May 2005, 11:14 PM
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Fuzz,

Top day!! I forgot to check the springs before i left, but have noticed that my drivers side spring seems to be rattling even worse now!!!

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Old 30 May 2005, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Fuzz
What program is that file created with??
Old 30 May 2005, 11:20 PM
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I think you'll need to bring it back for a strip down, strange though, everything seemed tight and all lined up where it should be.
Perhaps it's a top mount wearing out.


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Old 30 May 2005, 11:31 PM
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Works 7.0
Old 30 May 2005, 11:47 PM
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opens in excel

Were the sheaths fitted??
Old 31 May 2005, 07:51 AM
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Yep. I fitted them before I got pulled off of it to organise the group and take da money.


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Old 31 May 2005, 07:53 AM
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cheers, very strange will arrange to come down
Old 31 May 2005, 10:46 AM
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I've just been looking at the results/mods sheet. It would be even more informative if the Model of car was put in there

Mines a 2004 wrx
Old 31 May 2005, 12:43 PM
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Fuzz, did you want to add my engine details?

MD304, HKS decat, GruppeS headers, Link ECU

Excellent result from your car, I left before it went on tho Was there any problems? On the APS thread you said something about it breathing?

Neil.
Old 31 May 2005, 04:21 PM
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Hi Nezz

What did u get with your MD304?
Im interested to see comparitive results from sililar mods on the same day.

Dan.
Old 31 May 2005, 04:37 PM
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i trust these torque figures were given in Nm? as aposed to lbft?
Old 31 May 2005, 04:39 PM
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Neilo

Yes in Nm
Old 31 May 2005, 05:21 PM
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ahh thoguht so....never seen an NA 2.0 honda make nearly 200lbft

good figs all round though
Old 31 May 2005, 07:13 PM
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Updated xlr document..

breathing, yes heavily. the combustion pressure is just too great for the standard internals to handle.. I could see it breathing on the rollers, and it does smoke a little on the road with the race fuel..
less than 1/4 tank left anyhow, oh and nearly had a head on tonight so it best stay in the garage until I put the optimax map back in... Far too much of a loon machine!!
Was fun while it lasted. that had to be the most expensive tank of fuel I've ever bought though.

Andy
Old 01 June 2005, 12:08 AM
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Dan your car definately has the std limit set, rollers have to have rpm at a speed entered according to gearing and the gear its run in, then it calcs revs from speed usually. Previous car to yours was a Legacy which I don't have the gearing to hand for but maybe someone does. Since it read 7900 ish the rpm difference would be something around 900 (if you assume that it didn't quite hit the limiter), that will change your torque noticeably.

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Old 01 June 2005, 12:44 AM
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Thanks for the reply Bob, well after another day on my back under the car replacing the up pipe, a trip back to PS will make some interesting reading

Question is what to replace the helix flexi job with, i was thinking a slipjointed one instead, prob better gas flow but not totally solid.

Dan.
Old 01 June 2005, 07:42 AM
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As long as you dont run with fully bracketed turbo (i.e remove the large gearbox side one then you should have no problem running a solid up pipe.
I have a 2" Hayward and Scott one and have yet to crack that (2-3 years on) but as I state I am only "holding the turbo up" with the small bracket that bolts to the head. This has a slotted hole which allows the necessary movement.


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Old 01 June 2005, 09:34 AM
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Danny,

you were up by 7 bhp but down by over 40 lb/ft?? Whats going on there?

Neil.
Old 01 June 2005, 01:38 PM
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Most of the torque figures seemed a bit low to me ?
Old 02 June 2005, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Neilo
ahh thoguht so....never seen an NA 2.0 honda make nearly 200lbft

good figs all round though

LOL i wish!, i think powerstations torque wrenchs has more torque than our type-r's
Old 02 June 2005, 06:58 PM
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I wonder if there will ever be a day when everybody is happy with the figures on a shootout day.



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Old 02 June 2005, 07:06 PM
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Only if you ask them what they want before each run...

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