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Old 24 April 2005, 07:05 PM
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Originally Posted by spireite
tony blair should be up on charges for war crimes in the haig .

i agree any muslims supporting blair should be punished my other muslims

labour= liars

im voting for the national party of my own country anyway so **** labour

snp for me
Old 24 April 2005, 07:33 PM
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Originally Posted by fatscoobyfella
So if you vote BNP,you are a racist,are violent and a tosser?
Either that or amazingly ignorant/stupid.


BTW, anyone spot this on the manifesto quote:

we call for the selective exclusion of foreign-made goods from British markets
No more scoobs then, because you can bet that excluding Japanese cars would be a top priority.


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Originally Posted by fatscoobyfella
A few scraps at the footy and shoutin at Grandad and Hamiltons..Hardly britains most wanted!!!..
I'm not sure this falls into that category:

stabbing a Jewish teacher
But I appear to be wrong about the rape allegation.


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Originally Posted by moses
hello jet me old friend didnt know u woz a member here too
Hello mate, I stick my head in now and again, actually came in today to see if there were any pics from the Action Day at Combe yesterday
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Originally Posted by jetskidia
Hello mate, I stick my head in now and again, actually came in today to see if there were any pics from the Action Day at Combe yesterday
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nice one mate , were u at the event

did u go to bolney


cheers
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Originally Posted by fatscoobyfella
So if you vote BNP,you are a racist,are violent and a tosser?
not necessarily in that order, and maybe not violent....but add very stupid, a social misfit and I think you are getting close to the profile of a BNP supporter

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Perhaps the immigration problems in this country,and the way the BNP want to address them appeals to more people than you anticipate.There strength as a party in the UK and europe is getting stronger.
Surely you dont suggest that every person that votes for them are racist,stupid,biggoted thugs?
Perhaps the common man looks around him and doesnt like what he see's.And that paticular party seems to be offering the answers that he wants to hear,whereas the other parties avoid or lie there way around the situation.

Eitherways...The BNP as a party is growing,there must be a reason why more people are supporting them,whatever there manifesto is.
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Originally Posted by fatscoobyfella
Perhaps the immigration problems in this country,and the way the BNP want to address them appeals to more people than you anticipate.There strength as a party in the UK and europe is getting stronger.
Surely you dont suggest that every person that votes for them are racist,stupid,biggoted thugs?
Perhaps the common man looks around him and doesnt like what he see's.And that paticular party seems to be offering the answers that he wants to hear,whereas the other parties avoid or lie there way around the situation.

Eitherways...The BNP as a party is growing,there must be a reason why more people are supporting them,whatever there manifesto is.

u really thing most people who support captain hook abu hamza are terrorists ?


the same goes for the bnp both are thugs, fatscooby, u got any kids, would u like to get a petrol bomb thrown into your home while your lil kids r in the house

thats what bnp supporters to the national front and c18 take their bnp excalibur youth under their wing during the demos and trips

if u condone that, well maybe its time the bnp homes burn too
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one more thing no one steals nobodies jobs

maybe if u get your **** in gear and wanna work and get a good decent job no one will give your job to any immigrant who deserves it coz he puts in the ours instead of f**k this i can do better sitting in the house and on dole attitude

did u watch the programme today the panorama

that british bus companies have more immigrant drivers now than the "white british" one, coz they dont turn up for work and make money on dole so sod the work

edited to add

to my mates and people who know me, u know i aint being racist, i had to put this point forward , this crap about bnp not being racist or thugs

u saw the proofs and video footage, their pure scum if abu hamza is evil so are the bnp

and yes as jet would confirm my old mate from the evo days, i do have a waffen ss streak in me and i used it vice versa on white bigots just like they go around and attacking us on all forums, white man has nothing better to do , just pick on the coloured, ****** , paki and immigrant born or not born in this country

if u aint white u aint one of us attiude

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not many of u know this, this man nick griffin is a clever lil devil. now he uses islam as an enemy but it wasnt like this in the 80's he is only stirring up trouble , he was a staunch supporter of colonel gadaffi even during his terrorism days and also supported the ayatollahs ways, dont surprise me


not many of u know this, iranians are the pure aryan race, i dont believe in such filth, iran means aryan the persian empire is who the swastika belongs to, any enemies they conquered they took their symbols with them from greece to india to other lands, indians thought these light skinned guys were Gods and they ruled the original hindus and made them low caste and other stuff happened too

their my ancestors, arabic and persian
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Nick Griffin celebrates in Oldham

The British National Party leader, Nick Griffin, is a hardline fascist. Convicted for inciting race hate, he denies that the Holocaust ever took place and believes that Jews are conspiring against white British people.

Griffin is from a wealthy family with a history of far right involvement. His father, Edwin, took him to his first NF meeting when he was just 15. Griffin’s mother is the administration secretary of the party and stood in the 2001 general election.

When Nick Griffin attended Cambridge University to study law his involvement in extremist politics grew. By 1978, he was the national organiser of the NF.

In 1980, Griffin launched Nationalism Today with the help of Joe Pearce, a convicted racist and editor of Bulldog. Nationalism Today became the springboard for the Third Positionist ideas that the NF later adopted. Through Nationalism Today Griffin and Pearce developed their idea that a “third way” was needed to replace the evils of both capitalism and communism. They felt both were Zionist controlled.

The Third Positionist wing of the NF saw the traditional style of fascist organising as pro-capitalist. Griffin wanted to create a political elite. Based on the blood and soil philosophy of Julius Evola, an Italian National Socialist, Griffin and the NF began to develop their Third Positionist ideas.

But it was also terrorists who were to prove a strong influence on Griffin’s politics. Italian fascist, Roberto Fiore, had arrived in Britain with several others including people implicated in the bombing at Bologna railway station in 1980 in which 85 people.

Griffin and Fiore became close, with the Italian working for Griffin’s tour company, Heritage Tours. Griffin’s father remains Fiore’s personal and business accountant.

Griffin’s BNP may hate Islamic fundamentalists now. But this has not always been the case. After his faction took control of the NF, they began to make some strange alliances. They met with representatives of Colonel Gaddafi’s regime through the Libyan People’s Bureau in London, and expressed support for Iran’s Ayatollah Khomeini.

Rank and File members of the NF were not too pleased when Griffin, in 1985, praised the black separatist Louis Farrakhan: “White nationalists everywhere wish (Farrakhan) well, for we share a common struggle for the same ends: Racial Separation and Racial Freedom”.


Nick Griffin (left) in Libya

During this period, Griffin and other NF leaders took an all-expenses paid trip to Libya, as guests of the Gaddafi regime to obtain funding.

National Front News wrote at the time: “Common interest must be turned into practical cooperation. Those involved must work to nail the media lies which are used by our enemies to try and divide us and make us afraid to be seen standing side by side with Third Way nations such as Libya and Iran”. Ironic that Griffin once allied himself so closely with Muslim countries that he now condemns as terrorist states. But political gymnastics have been constant throughout Griffin’s life. His bizarre ideologies have changed like the wind.

In 1989, he left the NF and formed the International Third Position, a fanatically Catholic fascist group. The ITP campaigned against Coca Cola, McDonalds, urbanisation and “Zionism” His involvement did not last beyond a few years. In 1991, after a failed business venture, Griffin went his own way.

In 1995, Griffin joined the BNP. He began to edit The Rune, an anti-Semitic quarterly. He also announced that the BNP should prioritise denying the Holocaust to schoolchildren.

He earned a two-year suspended prison sentence for his sick views on the Holocaust. In 1998 he was found guilty of inciting race hatred at Harrow Crown Court for denying that the Holocaust ever took place.

But now Griffin tries to pretend the BNP is respectable. The ITP have also been baffled by Griffin’s incoherence. It recently declared: “He has been a conservative, a revolutionary nationalist, a radical National Socialist, a Third Positionist, a friend of the ‘boot boys’ and the skinhead scene, a man committed to respectable politics and electioneering, a ‘moderniser’. Which is he in reality? Perhaps he has been all these quite sincerely – in which case his judgement is abysmal; or perhaps he has been none of them sincerely – which speaks for itself!”

Griffin immediately had his sights upon leading the BNP. He became editor of Spearhead, the then BNP magazine, from 1996 until his split from former leader John Tyndall in 1999.

He yearned for a BNP that was reputable and modern. The label of Nazism tarnished the group’s image, and Griffin wanted to copy the more intellectual far right parties on the continent. But though he spoke of the need for a community-based politics, his words in The Rune showed his real colours. “The electors of Millwall did not back a post-modernist Rightist Party, but what they perceived to be a strong, disciplined organisation with the ability to back up its slogan “Defend Rights for Whites’ with well-directed boots and fists. When the crunch comes, power is the product of force and will, not of rational debate”.


mr griffin when he was young standing next to a gadaffi posted

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also panorama investigated this, nick went to tripoli expences paid by gaddafi




http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/sta.../biography.stm

griffins guru

http://www.tyndallexposed.com/gadaffi.htm

“4. Total opposition to Zionism and Israel and all their supporters. Solidarity with the oppressed Arab world, who are our natural allies against the New World Order.”

- 2002: A NATIONALIST ODYSSEY, WNP website
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You not voting BNP then Moses

Do you ever sleep, fella LOL.
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Moses,there is too much to address in your post,but i dont think anyone,including myself has said anything about "*******,paki's or immigrants" stealing any jobs.I also didnt say any "crap" about the BNP being thugs.I was merely asking if the statement that others had made was true.

I couldnt be bothered to read all the links you have put up in your many thousand letter diatribe,but i couldnt see an answer to the question i did put forward.That being that the BNP is a growing party,WHY?

I am not a member of the BNP,or any political party..My view comes from what i see around me..not from some politician,or bent newspaper force feeding me biased opinions.

I will not condone violence to anyone that doesnt deserve a good slapping.Or burning defenceless children as you say..

I find at amazing that people in englands capital can burn the union flag and denounce england,and spiel out racist diatribe..When the very same people doing this are living,working and going about there day here..Try doing that anywhere apart from Uk and im sure you would have body parts severed clean off....if you was lucky.
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The BNP appeals to people's fears. That white people are somehow getting a faw deal. That the proud white nation will be overrun by the hordes of brown-faced refugees. That the whole fabric of society is about to be overthrown.

They don't offer solutions, they just point their collective fingers at the bogeyman, in exactly the same way as the National Socialists did.
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Originally Posted by fatscoobyfella
I will not condone violence to anyone that doesnt deserve a good slapping.Or burning defenceless children as you say..
No, but racial abuse is okay with you.

Originally Posted by fatscoobyfella
A few scraps at the footy and shoutin at Grandad and Hamiltons..Hardly britains most wanted!!!..
If you bothered to read the original post properly you'll see BNP members have been convicted of racial assaults as well as theft and burglaries but you seem to brush over that.

And, no, I don't believe voting for the BNP automatically makes you violent, racist and a tosser. I said nothing of the sort. Read the post FGS.
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
You not voting BNP then Moses

Do you ever sleep, fella LOL.


lol mate i swear if they werent **** thugs and good people i would have voted for them before labour, cons or liberals, i luv the rest of their policies, so do alot of the muslims only if it was for britain as a whole including all races, i would have def voted for the bnp its is incitement and national front and racist attacks on religions and minorities that make me hate them

but the rest of their policies are awesome and like i said alot of us guys would have voted for them if they were good for britain as a whole



fatscooby maybe u dont realise mate, do u know parties and the bnp attitude towards minorites is what made me a monster created by the white man, im a scots born muslim, i luv my country, when u get picked on all the time or your community, u become bitter and militant, of course anyone will become militant and start hating the people who pick on u all the time and insult your community and target your innocent peoples homes and people walking down the street

thats when u take the law into your hands against the oppressor, attitudes like the nf and c18 has made our community extreme and will defend themselves with all means necessary, its only natural

u saw what the white bigots in the usa done, they forced blacks to take a militant stance
the panthers
nation of islam
malcolm x
and alot of other militants

al muhajiroun and abu hamza are the product of the white mans attitude to minorites and middle east even, but when young asian children r told in a daily basis , even if u are born in this country u aint a brit, go back to your country, what country u talking about


me and many other brothers and sisters in the uk from indian origin ( before pakistan was made) now im a scots pakistani of course

we have been british for f*****ing 200 years of british colonialisation

before any of u guys, u think the majority of the white people are pure brits, thats alot of b-o-l-l-o-c-k-s my friend, u have irish, german, norwegian and french blood inside u somewhere and italian , u have more foreign blood in u than us

my ancestors fought for this country, gurkhas, muslims, sikhs, hindu's etc etc and arabs

but majority of your blood didnt norsemen, germans, irish, french , italian etc etc

and u point a finger at us telling us where to go when this is our country and were born here

and told that if your born in a stable u dont become a horse that way u dont become a brit

b-o-l-l-o-c-k-s

u talk about burning union jacks, when u aint treated like a brit u take your anger out in other ways

me myself would never burn the flag of my mother country which is the united kingdom more so scotland my beloved. im a scot and proud to be one

when i know myself that minorities dont steal jobs of whites, but the whiteman dont wanna work or do what the minority would do

maybe u aught to go to heathrow and see who cleans the toilets and sweeps the floors

and see your bus services who have polish drivers and asian ones
coz the whiteman cant bother taking crap from chavs in the bus, rather make money sitting on my *** and get a season ticket while im at it for my fave footie team by the government


when young muslim lads see this day and day out, they get approached from militants who aint even born in this country and are evil, shouldnt even be here inthe first place and brianwash our kids even more to hate their fellow brit and the union jack

when they see our country following the crusade of america against our fellow muslims, it hurts

as it hurts u whem mugabe does the whiteman in

thats all bud
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Originally Posted by SwishOvBolton
moses u are so full of ****ing **** , all ur ramblings go on and ****ing on , i actually start to feel sorry for you , it makes out you been so hard done by , u should recieve a victoria cross , nearly every post i see of your s is about race or something crusading for muslims or like on ur last post`(you was goin on and on about) , Describing all the verses from the evil bible.com , see u must read alot of **** against britain to know it all ,
you go on about habu amza saying he isnt a badman , what kind of glue do you sniff ,
trying to say its a product of a whitemans ways to minorities are you blind are you thick , all the **** u quote is stuff off other websites that u just put into ur own words , so abu is not a terrorist , how can you say abu doesnt get treated fairly in this country whats his house worth 200k , was he earning 5 - 600 a week for doing ****all , hes never worked a day in his life , and u saying its a product of the white man


yeah Right


also so true the indians did fight for this country and RESPECT TO EVERYONE ONE OF THEM they deserve to be here in this country (ANCESTORS AS WELL DECENDANTS)and be treated like everyone else and be treated like a man on woman and not the colour of there skin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

but also so did both my grandads and they get 70 pound a week or should i say got 70 pound a week state pension !!!!!!!!!! for givin blood and guts for the flag ,

abu hamza (whats he give for this country and he has never worked and gets 500 - 600 benefits a week) while rallying to destroy this counry ,
to me that is backwards

swish i gave u a good battering the last time , i dont want to stoop to your level and start calling u stuff again like last time

and whup your butt once more coz u aint worth the hole u come out from

please moderators, can u not stop swish from posting replies to me as u know what happened the last time and i dont want to do the same to him again

he intentionally stirs up trouble

cheers go and blow a monkey and dont get a good thread like this deleted
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Originally Posted by SwishOvBolton
YOU WANT TO PUT THE GLUE DOWN ,


YOU DESTROY ME . . . . i would be laughing right now if my clutch hadnt gone !!!!!!!!


moses moses moses , you replied after i deleted all my post`s as others were gettin offended

then you reply !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ****house springs to mind

Keyboard Jihad Moses

lol never ever, i replied in all your posts and then when i leave the pc for 2 hrs to take my lil girl out and those who saw it u decide to delete all your filthy posts to be on the safe side and not to expose your crap

but hey i wasnt gonna leave it their till i slayed u and buried u and i did

and the day u win sunshine i will let u lick my spicy lingam
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one more thing u lying coward

u used a christian front the last time so i wont find out who u are and not insult your religion in revenge and rip u apart like i always do


tell us u a hindu or a zionist jew

u def aint a christian lying coward who hides behind a name and edited too add and hides behind someone elses hijacked religion when u aint even a christian
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Chill Moses, your going to give your self a hernia ;-)
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just spoke to him the above was real and were gonna delete our posts

we had a laugh though
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Lol true
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lol @ cyberevo yep i agree

im still laughing, i was expecting alot of swear words and fighting over the phone with swish, well we just laughed, its so fecking funny
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Originally Posted by SwishOvBolton
Lol true

peace, we will try to behave from now on
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no prob`s sounds good to me
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Originally Posted by SwishOvBolton
no prob`s sounds good to me

no probs bud its a short life might as well have a laugh u enjoy the weather

cheers
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Look guys, religion, colour, creed & even BNP. I should know, I'm Indian and lived on the same road as one of the most Notorious NF leaders and believe me, we went through hell and in those days the police just were not interested.

It's a far more tolerent society we live in now days.

So guys, agree to disagree on religion and keep the fun peacfull.
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Aaaahhh!! Thats lovely
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Originally Posted by Cyberevo
Look guys, religion, colour, creed & even BNP. I should know, I'm Indian and lived on the same road as one of the most Notorious NF leaders and believe me, we went through hell and in those days the police just were not interested.

It's a far more tolerent society we live in now days.

So guys, agree to disagree on religion and keep the fun peacfull.
wise words mate and cheers


u mind the southall wars with the asians vs nf

we kicked their asses good

first time they had the police in their side and the second and 3 rd time we gave it to both of them , thats what happens when u stand up to oppression and it helped alot, nf didnt know what was standing round the corner for them neither did the coppers
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Originally Posted by moses
wise words mate and cheers


u mind the southall wars with the asians vs nf

we kicked their asses good

first time they had the police in their side and the second and 3 rd time we gave it to both of them , thats what happens when u stand up to oppression and it helped alot, nf didnt know what was standing round the corner for them neither did the coppers
Unfortunately Moses we never had that sort of support in our sleepy little midlands town and I was a young 13 year old at that time, in a house with my sister and mother while 20-30 NF blokes (the were a bit meaty) were standing outside out house with a video camera. This was only a week after the 'we are going to burn your houses down' letters went out. To say I was petrified for me and my family is an understatement.

How things have changed.


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