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Old 23 April 2005, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
Violent thugs preaching about other violent thugs. Now thats what I call democracy
I take it you will not be voting for them then??

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Old 23 April 2005, 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I take it you will not be voting for them then??

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Old 23 April 2005, 10:47 PM
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It's already been said that you can use extreme violence against a burgulars in the heat of the moment. Then I recently heard in the news of someone being shot when they confronted a burgular. Do you think those thieving scum are going to take our licence to be violent against them lying down? No, more and more of them will go to 'work' armed!
Old 23 April 2005, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I take it you will not be voting for them then??

Pete
I never said I would'nt vote for them Pete. I often attend BNP meetings just for the intellectual conversation. However being in the top 1% of earners in the country means they d'ont really represent my financial interests/position.
Nice bunch of blokes though
Old 23 April 2005, 11:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
I never said I would'nt vote for them Pete. I often attend BNP meetings just for the intellectual conversation. However being in the top 1% of earners in the country means they d'ont really represent my financial interests/position.
Nice bunch of blokes though

good answer lol
Old 24 April 2005, 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Deep Singh
would'nt
Originally Posted by Deep Singh
d'ont
Schoolboy errors.
Old 24 April 2005, 08:39 AM
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Schoolboy errors.
I've heard you've made a few errors with schoolboys
Old 24 April 2005, 11:34 AM
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Interesting that the possession of firearms is so high in Nottingham. That used to be one of the most difficult places to get a Gun Licence.

Didn't do much good by the looks of it!

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Old 24 April 2005, 03:35 PM
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Why do people keep refering to the BNP as thugs??
Old 24 April 2005, 03:43 PM
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Deep, on a side note...how much does one have to earn to be in the top 1% of earners in the country?
Old 24 April 2005, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by fatscoobyfella
Why do people keep refering to the BNP as thugs??
This can't be a serious question? Surely not????
Old 24 April 2005, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
Thankfully, only the utterly stupid will vote for them.
unfortunately there seems to be quite a few of these..
Old 24 April 2005, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
This can't be a serious question? Surely not????

Prey tell then father...
Old 24 April 2005, 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by fatherpierre
Thankfully, only the utterly stupid will vote for them.
Very true.
Old 24 April 2005, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by fatscoobyfella
Prey tell then father...
If have to then there's something definitely wrong LOL.

Not thugs?
Old 24 April 2005, 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by fatscoobyfella
Why do people keep refering to the BNP as thugs??
Take a look at the criminal records of the BNPs top echelon and it should be obvious. And I'm not talking speeding fines either - I seem to remember one has been done for rape for instance.


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Old 24 April 2005, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Everyone will be allowed to hold a firearm, and will be able to shoot dead burglars and car thieves .....

Pull the soldiers back from Iraq and put them on guard at the channel tunnel .....

We all have a sneaking appreciation of those 2 policies, don't we??

Pete
Theyre a bunch of f*cking idiots Pete; but theyre more in touch with public feeling than New Labour, and very possibly the Conservative party too after they won (if they do).

Innit?
Old 24 April 2005, 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by turboman786
Deep, on a side note...how much does one have to earn to be in the top 1% of earners in the country?
More than most people who vote for the BNP or work for them, but less than I thought! Lib dems want to raise the top level of income tax to 50% for this bracket that will cover 1% of the pop( The Times)

Should'nt have really written the original comment as`its not really an attractive character trait to talk of such things.Sorry.
Old 24 April 2005, 06:16 PM
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You mean someone in the BNP can actually write? (a policy)
Old 24 April 2005, 06:19 PM
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Originally Posted by _Meridian_
Take a look at the criminal records of the BNPs top echelon and it should be obvious. And I'm not talking speeding fines either - I seem to remember one has been done for rape for instance.


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Where would i be able to "take a look" at the criminal records of the BNP then?
Old 24 April 2005, 06:26 PM
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I've found the following....

Today's BNP "dirty dozen" are:
1. Tony Lecomber, prominent in the BNP hierarchy, served three years in jail for a nail bomb plot. He got another three years in 1991 for stabbing a Jewish teacher and has 12 convictions in all.

2. Kevin Scott, BNP organiser in the North East, has convictions for assault and threatening behaviour.

3. Paul Harris, 41, BNP council candidate in Barnsley was convicted of using threatening behaviour towards a pensioner.

4. Jason Douglas, one of the BNP's leading candidates in the Greater London local elections, is a convicted football hooligan.

5. Warren Bennett, the BNP's chief steward, is also a convicted football hooligan.

6. Stephen Belshaw, who stood for the BNP in Amber Valley, East Midlands, was convicted in 1994 of attacking a Jewish solicitor.

7. Colin Smith, BNP South East London organiser. 17 convictions for burglary (ha ha), theft, stealing cars, possession of drugs and assaulting a police officer.

8. Darren Dobson, BNP council candidate in Oldham. Convicted of racially aggravated assault at Oldham magistrates in November 2001.

9. Frank Forte, BNP member in Waltham Forest, convicted of Actual Bodily Harm in 1989.

10. Paul Thompson, former BNP organiser for Durham and Darlington convicted of criminal damage after an attack on a book shop in Durham. Also convicted for violence after attacking football fans.

11. Neil Keilty, BNP member, whose convictions since 1987 include criminal damage, possession of an offensive weapon and threatening behaviour.

12. Gary Mitchell former Sunderland BNP secretary, convicted of racist attacks and possession of offensive weaponry.
Old 24 April 2005, 06:33 PM
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they will wooo the frustrated and weak with things they want to hear then bleed the country dry for their own agenda.bollocks to that
Old 24 April 2005, 06:35 PM
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A few scraps at the footy and shoutin at Grandad and Hamiltons..Hardly britains most wanted!!!..
Old 24 April 2005, 06:37 PM
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Originally Posted by yhe chod
they will wooo the frustrated and weak with things they want to hear then bleed the country dry for their own agenda.bollocks to that
And which party is that aimed at?? All of them presumably.
Old 24 April 2005, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by fatscoobyfella
A few scraps at the footy and shoutin at Grandad and Hamiltons..Hardly britains most wanted!!!..
I wasn't trying to convince racist violent tossers against voting BNP.
Old 24 April 2005, 06:58 PM
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So if you vote BNP,you are a racist,are violent and a tosser?
Old 24 April 2005, 07:00 PM
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Whose Manifesto is this?

................... and would you vote for them


IMMIGRATION - time to say ENOUGH!

On current demographic trends, we, the native British people, will be an ethnic minority in our own country within sixty years. To ensure that this does not happen, and that the British people retain their homeland and identity, we call for an immediate halt to all further immigration, the immediate deportation of criminal and illegal immigrants, and the introduction of a system of voluntary resettlement whereby those immigrants who are legally here will be afforded the opportunity to return to their lands of ethnic origin assisted by a generous financial incentives both for individuals and for the countries in question. We will abolish the 'positive discrimination' schemes that have made white Britons second-class citizens. We will also clamp down on the flood of 'asylum seekers', all of whom are either bogus or can find refuge much nearer their home countries.

EUROPE - back to British independence!

We are opposed to the Single European Currency, and support the overwhelming majority of the British people in their desire to keep the Pound and our traditional weights and measures. At the same time, we are for the best possible relationship with our European neighbours and believe that the nations of Europe should be free to trade and cooperate whenever it is mutually beneficial, though without being forced into a political and economic straitjacket - political unification. Accordingly, we stand for British withdrawal from the European Union. In place of the EU, we intend to aim towards greater national self-sufficiency, and to work to restore Britain's family and trading ties with Australia, Canada and New Zealand, and to trade with the rest of the world as it suits us. Following our withdrawal from the EU, the BNP will use the £43 million per day net contribution Britain at present makes to the European Union to fund many far more useful projects at home.

LAW AND ORDER - crack down on crime!

We will crack down on crime and restore public safety and confidence. We will free the police and courts from the politically correct straitjacket that is stopping them from doing their job properly. The liberal fixation with the 'rights' of criminals must be replaced by concern for the rights of victims, and the right of innocent people not to become victims. We support the re-introduction of corporal punishment for petty criminals and vandals, and the restoration of capital punishment for paedophiles, terrorists and murderers as an option for judges in cases where their guilt is proven beyond dispute, as by DNA evidence or being caught red-handed.

ECONOMY - British workers first!

Globalisation, with its export of jobs to the Third World, is bringing ruin and unemployment to British industries and the communities that depend on them. Accordingly, we call for the selective exclusion of foreign-made goods from British markets and the reduction of foreign imports. We will ensure that our manufactured goods are, wherever possible, produced in British factories, employing British workers. When this is done, unemployment in this country will be brought to an end, and secure, well-paid employment will flourish, at last getting our people back to work and ending the waste and injustice of having more than 4 million people in a hidden army of the unemployed concealed by Labour's statistical fiddles. We further believe that British industry, commerce, land and other economic and natural assets belong in the final analysis to the British nation and people. To that end we will restore our economy and land to British ownership. We also call for preference in the job market to be given to native Britons. We will take active steps to break up the socially, economically and politically damaging monopolies now being established by the supermarket giants. Finally we will seek to give British workers a stake in the success and prosperity of the enterprises whose profits their labour creates by encouraging worker shareholder and co-operative schemes.

EDUCATION - discipline, standards, achievement!

We are against the 'trendy' teaching methods that have made Britain one of the most poorly educated nations in Europe. We will end the practice of politically correct indoctrination in all its guises and we will restore discipline in the classroom, give authority back to teachers and put far greater emphasis on training young people in the industrial and technological skills necessary in the modern world. We will also seek to instill in our young people knowledge of and pride in the history, cultures and heritage of the native peoples of Britain.

AGRICULTURE - quality before quantity!

We see a strong, healthy agriculture sector as vital to the country. Britain's farming industry will be encouraged to produce a much greater part of the nation's need in food products. Priority will be switched from quantity to quality, as we move from competing in a global economy to maximum self-sufficiency for Britain. We will ensure a major shift to healthier and more sustainable organic farming. We are pledged to ensure the restoration of Britain's once great fishing industry with the reimposition of the former exclusion zones around our coast.

HEALTH - first-class healthcare for all!

We are wholly committed to a free, fully funded National Health Service for all British citizens. We will revitalise the Health Service by boosting staff and bed numbers, slashing unnecessary bureaucracy and by addressing the root cause of low recruitment and retention - low pay. We will see to it that no money is given in foreign aid while our own hospitals are short of beds and the staff to run them. More emphasis must be placed on healthy living with greater understanding of sickness prevention through physical exercise, a healthier environment and improved diets.

TRANSPORT - time to invest!

Increased investment is needed in Britain's public transport system to bring it up to the highest standards in the world. The fiasco of rail privatisation with different companies running services and track leading to higher fares and lower safety also needs to be resolved. Congestion of our towns and cities must be eased by the provision of greater incentives to use rail and bus transport instead of private cars. The first step is to end the crime and squalor that puts so many people off public transport. Motorists must not be made the scapegoats for government failure. Fuel tax should be cut, motorway speed limits raised, and hidden speed cameras should be banned. Far more must be done to encourage the development and use of cleaner fuels.

ENVIRONMENT - a cleaner, greener future!

Our ideal for Britain is that of a clean, beautiful country, free of pollution in all its forms. We will enforce standards to curb those practices, whether by business or the individual, which cause environmental damage. "The polluter pays to clean up the mess" must become a fact of life, not an electioneering slogan. In towns we would work to replace the brutalist modernism of 1960s-style-architecture with a blend of traditional local styles and materials and ensure that developments take place on a more human scale.

FOREIGN AID - time to spend our money on our own people!

We reject the idea that Britain must forever be obliged to subsidise the incompetence and corruption of Third World states by supplying them with financial aid. We will link foreign aid with our voluntary resettlement policy, whereby those nations taking significant numbers of people back to their homelands will need cash to help absorb those returning. The billions of pounds saved every year by this policy will also be reallocated to vital services in Britain.

PENSIONERS - pensioners before asylum seekers!

The conditions in which many of Britain's old people are forced to live are a national disgrace. We are pledged to ensure that all our old folk are able to live in comfortable homes, and will restore the earnings link with pensions. Elderly people who have paid a lifetime of taxes and reared families should not have to sell their homes to pay for care.

NORTHERN IRELAND - an end to sectarianism!

Britain has shamefully allowed the terrorists in N.I. to come close to winning when the IRA could have been destroyed years ago. Government weakness has led to hundreds of deaths and given those same terrorists a share in government. We would end all attempts to force the people of Northern Ireland to accept foreign interference in their affairs and deal with terrorism - from whatever side - once and for all. No one with links to a terrorist organisation that refuses to lay down its arms should be allowed to enter government. We would abolish state-supported segregation in education. In the long run, we wish to end the conflict in Ireland by welcoming Eire as well as Ulster as equal partners in a federation of the nations of the British Isles.

DEFENCE - no more cuts!

Successive cuts in defence spending have left Britain's armed forces perilously weak. We will boost Britain's armed forces to ensure that they are able to deal with any emergency, and defend our homeland and our independence. We will bring our troops back from Germany and withdraw from NATO, since recent political developments make both commitments obsolete. We will close all foreign military bases on British soil, and refuse to risk British lives in meddling 'peace-keeping' missions in parts of the world where no British interests are at stake - a position of armed neutrality. We will also restore national service for our young with the option of civil or military service.

FOREIGN AFFAIRS - Britain's interests first!

Britain's foreign relations should be determined by the protection of our own national interest and not by our like or dislike of other nations' internal politics. We would have no quarrel with any nation that does not threaten British interests. We will maintain an independent foreign policy of our own, and not a spineless subservience to the USA, the 'international community', or any other country.

DEMOCRACY - letting the people decide!

The British people invented modern Parliamentary democracy. Yet in recent years the British people have been denied their democratic rights. On issue after issue, the views of the majority of British people have been ignored and overridden by a Politically Correct 'élite' which thinks it knows best. On immigration, on Capital Punishment, on the surrender of British sovereignty to the EU and in numerous other areas, democracy has been absent as Labour, Tories and Lib-Dems conspire in election after election to offer the British people no real choice on such vital issues. The BNP exists to give the British people, that choice, and thus to restore and defend the basic democratic rights we have all been denied. We favour more democracy, not less, not just at national but at regional and local level. Power should be devolved to the lowest level possible so that local communities can make decisions which affect them. We will remove legal curbs on freedom of speech imposed by successive Governments over the last 40 years. We will implement a Bill of Rights guaranteeing fundamental freedoms to the British people. We will ensure that ordinary British people have real democratic power over their own lives and that Government, local and national, is truly accountable to the people who elect it.
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Originally Posted by fatscoobyfella
So if you vote BNP,you are a racist,are violent and a tosser?

yes mostly their national front thugs as proven so many times but some good people will vote for them too coz the goverment we have now doesnt sort our problems out and coz immigration is shambles people will be forced to vote to take action


edited spelling mistake out for our

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hello jet me old friend didnt know u woz a member here too
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tony blair should be up on charges for war crimes in the haig .


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