Mick

iTrader: (1)

So... How much do folk on here spend on fuel per year?

My Scoob does about 5000 miles per year @ say 22 mpg av 80p per litre what's that ~ £800 ish a year... Not a vast amount of tax paid then... pales into insignificance to income tax, council tax, NI...

What do other folk pay ?

Mick

pslewis

9000 miles on average

28mpg - coz I don't drive like a ***

320 Gallons = 1453 Litres @ 85p = £1235

A Skoda Octavia 1.9TDi would cost me about half that ...... so, the question is - would I rather drive a Skoda Octavia or a Subaru Impreza at a price of an extra £600 a year?

I don't own a Skoda

Pete

Luminous

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pete, go buy the Skoda. I've been driving my standard UK classic like a grandma on this last tank of petrol. Only been over 5k rpm a few times. I got my best ever mpg, 20.7

If you are getting 28 mpg what's the point??

mart360

the scoob currently costs me £1820 a year in petrol.

thats not including r tax or ins thats a lot of money to loose!!

the diesel costs me £1144 thats a saving of 600+

or £56 a month..

Mart

pslewis

My MAF Sensor has gone, thats why its running lean!!



Pete

ps. I've had quite a few pm's telling me that you do, indeed, drive like an Old Woman!!

RB5_245

Just what blair said last time, something along the lines of 'we won't be bullied'

yeah right, and if we're quiet we'll get ignored..... and infact we have! look at the current price of petrol, in sunny scotland I recently saw optimax going for a wonderously low 95p per liter


P.S if a car's running lean it uses less fuel. 20.7 is stupidly low though, get maf and lambda sensor checked. Should make about 28 if standard, driving reasonably.

Or get a big turbo, I can get 400miles to the tank on my classic if I stay at 70

Save the planet with big horsepower

Dave

Stueyb

The fuel protests have started btw. Stanlow is blockaded. Public transport here we come, although to my mind I think this will be short lived.

mannyo

Heard this on the news this morning, my annual fuel bill for my Mondeo 2.0 is 2444 and another 1000 for my Skoda Octavia vRS.

ChrisB

Oh joy - cue panic buying

Funkii Munkii

Last years fuel Bill £3200

roughly 20,000 miles

imlach

Strange how we were talking about this yesterday, and then this
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/asi...ic/4480031.stm

Speculation it was travelling too fast to "catch up" with the timetable

class_A

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politi...nd/4480257.stm

Started with an initial blockade which then moved after discussion with Police. 39 out of 40 tankers due to leave this morning have remained on site following disussions between the protesters and the tanker drivers according to News 24.

Brit_in_Japan

Yeah, not good. Worst accident in 42 years.

Apparently the train overshot it's stopping point at the previous station by 8 metres. They stop within a 0.5 metre accuracy usually and everyone lines up nice and orderly ready to get on. He decided to reverse the train back instead of making the passengers walk and that put him about 1 minute behind schedule apparently. The timetables the drivers work to are accurate to 15 second so it's possible he was trying to make back his 1 minute delay.

It's speculation at this stage, but the driver's alive so I expect he'll be asked some serious questions.

Jap2Scrap

My fuel bill is extortionate and I get 35mpg out of the Saxo..

Last year I did a tad over 39,000 miles and my fuel bill was about £4660. Way too much for my salary, just fortunate I don't have a mortgage.

Markus

Good to see someone starting to have another go about fuel prices. A nice little bit of panic buying would be perfect over the next few weeks, would set up the election nicely.

Now what we also want is a Reven... sorry Safety Camarea protest, something like masked chaps destorying, en mass, these diabolical devices. A nice, co-ordinated effort to take out, ooh, a couple of hundred of the things would quite possibly show that motorists are more than a bit pished off that we're being raped when it comes to fuel, but also when these revenue generators rape us as well. Doubt it'd happen though.

So, is anyone actually boycotting petrol stations? I see the distruptions are mainly over diesel fuel and not petrol.

imlach

It's interesting.....the public love the fuel protests.....so they stock up etc.....so the overall amount of sales to the petrol companies is still effectively the same...

...and then petrol runs out, and everyone HATES the fuel protests........

So it ends pretty quickly after that.

Result? Overall sales the same, so what did it prove?

Numpties.

redwrx

Your right, fuel blockades have started again..


Stanlow, was blocked this morning, as i was stuck in the damn queue, trying to get to my place of work ... i just hope they aint there tonite, or my tea will be burnt by the time i get home.


Seriously tho, something has to be done, petrol costs are going stupid..... how much longer is it going to be, before we are paying a £1/gallon.


Exactly how you get round the problem, i dont have the answer, and i guess neither does anyone else, cos if the fuel tax is reduced it will go on somewhere else.

And why do Impreza owners complain..??, no, its not because we cant afford to run our cars, its because we use more of the stuff than most other people, so we have a right to complain..surely, we should get a discount for buying in bulk.


The only time, i complain, is when i have to use my car for company business, and im trying to squeeze the best deal possible from the expenses claim ....... when im out 'playing', i just fill it up (it costs what it costs)..........


Frank

Luminous

iTrader: (3)

Its nothing to do with overall sales. We are not trying to say to the petrol companies that we do not want your petrol. We are trying to highlight the issue to such an extent that it becomes an election issue.

The number of miles people drive will always be the same, and so therefore will be the consumption. Its the cost of that consumption that we want to change, its not as if we have a chioce about going to work or not. Why should we be forced into cars that we do not like just cos some prat in government wants to charge loads of tax.

May as well at 50p to each litre of water that comes out of our taps at home.

imlach

Err...you do actually. You can move job, use public transport, etc.
I don't drive to work.....so *I* have a choice as do many. I also would never apply for a job that was miles & miles away.

Iain Young

Errr, not everyone is in such a fortunate position. The closest I could find work in my profession to my house is 30 miles away. Can't afford to move, the public transport is so bad as to be laughable, and if I wanted to catch the train, it'd cost me nearly £40 a day (at least it did last time I looked a couple of years ago - can't imagine it's gone down).

Luckily, I can work from home if needs be, but not everyone is able to do this...

Luminous

iTrader: (3)

Nicely said. For most of us choice is not a luxury.

imlach

Of course. I didn't say everyone.

Petrol is cheap. You're moaning about £40/day in train fares, yet also presumably unhappy about spending only 10% of that per day on petrol. In my eyes, personal transportation costs should be equal or higher than public transport costs. Then, and only then, can people complain about high personal transport costs.

imlach

So how did you get around before you had a driving licence?

Luminous

iTrader: (3)

I didn't have a job..... When I did need to get around I had to get a lift from someone, normally parents as there was only 1 bus per day where we used to live. So if you wanted to go somewhere AND come back it was in a car.

BTW, I agree that private transport should cost as much or more than public transport. Its just that our public transport is TWICE as expensive (at least) when compared to the French. And its often late....and slow....and does not go where we want.....when we want.....and our stations are good and knackered......and the trains often smell bad

Luminous

iTrader: (3)

I didn't have a job..... When I did need to get around I had to get a lift from someone, normally parents as there was only 1 bus per day where we used to live. So if you wanted to go somewhere AND come back it was in a car.

BTW, I agree that private transport should cost as much or more than public transport. Its just that our public transport is TWICE as expensive (at least) when compared to the French. And its often late....and slow....and does not go where we want.....when we want.....and our stations are old and knackered......and the trains often smell bad

imlach

OK.
How about this one. TRIPLE fuel duty, and make public transport a 1/3 of current costs AND improve it no end.

Who's up for it?

Iain Young

Actually, I haven't moaned once about the fuel prices, (this was my first contribution to this thread). I actually work for the same company as my brother, so we take it in turns to drive into work every day (car share). Even so, I still do around 15k miles in the scoob every year. I'm spending on average about £40 a week on petrol. Just checked the train prices out of curiosity, and it's £45 a day for a ticket!!! And I'd still have to travel 3 miles into town to catch it in the first place.... Should also mention that it would add at least 1.5 hours onto my journey time at each end of the day (3 hours in total)...

So you reckon that for me to get to work I should be paying £225 a week in petrol then? If that was the case, I couldn't afford to work, (at least not in my current field of expertise).

Personally, I think public transport costs should be drastically reduced, and made reliable enough so that they are actually vaguely useful. Then they might become a viable prospect. However, at the moment it's a joke...

Personally, I got my dad to drive me

Freak

When public transport will take me and my record boxes from my front door, to the front door of a club xx hundred miles away in a sensible amount of time, then take me back at 4 or 5 am to my front door- then i will use it.

Until then- not a chance.
I did 1493 miles to and from various places for work purposes last week- the cost on public transport would be a joke, and not exactly convenient.

Freak- who now has 65 litres of unleaded in (good) Jerry cans sitting in the garage........

RB5_245

Where do we sign up?

I travel a lot. In france i'd rather use public transport than drive, not even the tgv, the standard train is good enough. If you're under 25 you can get the length of the country for about 30quid.

My scoob's currently off the road, If I want to travel anywhere in scotland more than an hours bus ride away (it can take up to 45mins to get 6miles to my nearest town (silly route)) I hire a car.

It costs more but public transport is crap, who wants to pay a fortune to sit on a covered concrete (that's what they feel like) seat with less legroom than the back of a tvr.

I say blockade the refinerys with a big pile of recently chopped down speed cameras.

Dave

gsm1

Before you're resigned to use public transport you can drive cars that will give you twice or thrice the MPG of your Scoobies. Drive a more economical car before you cry about fuel prices. Owning a fast car is not a human right.