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Old 24 February 2005, 07:03 PM
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Now, i know Chinese people are small, but how did he get through your letterbox ?
Old 24 February 2005, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by hades
I *think* that I did once a year or two back actually see a fixed camera there - by the lines, opposite carriageway to the shell garage etc, but it's definitely a 40 limit. I'd say it's a 60 approaching it from the M4 / North direction, a 70 from the South / M3. That bit always irritates me as everyone who you've overtaken cos they were dawdling at 55 in the 60/70 tries to come back past by still doing 55 in the 40

Regards the 14 day thing - IIRC the requirement is that they have to send the NIP out to the registered keeper within 14 days. If you get it after 16 days, but it was postmarked/dated at 13 days, you have no escape.

Curious, what if the postmark on the envelope is illegible(sp?)
Old 24 February 2005, 07:21 PM
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If they've spelt your name wrong on the NIP, and they had the correct info to hand, you're off the hook. Stuff like that has to be correct legally. Have your 20 free minutes with a brief, he should confirm this.
Old 24 February 2005, 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
Pete.... am I going to have to dredge up your post again where you were blubbing and bawling because you thought you had been done and asking advice on how to wriggle off the hook?
Alex; why not post that just for the craic?
Old 24 February 2005, 07:25 PM
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Btw, PSL, you really should apply for the job of world ambassador for the nanny state...why the hell do you drive an Impreza turbo?
Old 24 February 2005, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by micared
Btw, PSL, you really should apply for the job of world ambassador for the nanny state...why the hell do you drive an Impreza turbo?
Anyone ever seen conclusive proof that he does?
Old 24 February 2005, 08:36 PM
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Originally Posted by GC8
Alex; why not post that just for the craic?
That wouldn't be sporting under the circumstances... he has fulfilled his side of the bargain by putting a sock in it, as far as this thread is concerned anyway!
Old 24 February 2005, 11:35 PM
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The 14 day rule ( I'll explain that exactly below ) only applies if everything is straight forward. By that I mean if you own the car and live at the registered address, you have not just moved, bought the car etc. If it is a company car or a hire car etc then plod has longer to track up down. If it is a company car then I would assume that the address is given as your company, in which case you are stuffed.

The 14 days starts the day after the offence but includes one day for it to arrive. It must be posted to you so that, in the normal course of the post, it arrives within 14 days. So, it must be posted 13 days after the day of the offence. I looked very closely into this because I had my only speeding offence ( 37 in a 30 ) cancelled because it was sent on the 14th day after the offence, so it was not possible to receive it until the 15th day. It took 2 letters before they admitted they where wrong. If the police insist on enforcing the letter of the law then they must expect it enforced back on them.

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Old 24 February 2005, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by micared
If they've spelt your name wrong on the NIP, and they had the correct info to hand, you're off the hook. Stuff like that has to be correct legally. Have your 20 free minutes with a brief, he should confirm this.
This is untrue, there is a get out of jail clause that allows for "slips" in the paperwork. This can, it would seem, cover quite major slips and so they will have no problem with spelling your name incorrectly.
Old 25 February 2005, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by hedgehog
This is untrue, there is a get out of jail clause that allows for "slips" in the paperwork. This can, it would seem, cover quite major slips and so they will have no problem with spelling your name incorrectly.
It's my understanding that the NIP is a legal document, and because of that has to be correct in every way. Got off with something similar ( admittedly some time ago ) because of an incorrectly detailed legal document. The police had said they would simply change the incorrect aspect of it when I appeared in court, I challenged this in writing, asking how this could be legal, they wrote back saying they wouldn't be pursueing the matter.

Btw, ALWAYS ask for photographic evidence of the alleged incident if it involves a camera. Don't just accept it. It's your right to see proof of evidence.
Old 25 February 2005, 08:51 AM
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Thumbs down Wrong nationality.

Originally Posted by scoobfan
Now, i know Chinese people are small, but how did he get through your letterbox ?
Do all foreigners look the same to you?
Old 25 February 2005, 11:17 AM
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So just to clarify, when i request the photographic evidence, how long after i got the NIP should I do this and should i send the request to the office that issued the NIP or to the Chief Constable that is mentioned on the NIP ?

Dave
Old 30 March 2005, 10:56 AM
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i bloody hate that road. been lucky a few times with that very van.....just managed to get the anchors on in time.
Old 30 March 2005, 10:58 AM
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FYI, got the photos sent to me, car looks very clean

Will respond with my PACE statement letter and see what happens......

Dave
Old 30 March 2005, 11:21 AM
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They have to serve it on the registered owner of the car within 14 days plus a reasonable time for postage (1st class). It is up to the registered owner to tell them who was driving the car at the time. That is when it will of course take longer to get the NIP to the driver which is acceptable by the court.

If the details on a summons are incorrect you can plead not guilty but I doubt it on a NIP.

Les
Old 30 March 2005, 12:17 PM
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Put down the driver as :

Mr Husain
20 Village Square
Bagdad
Iraq

You have completed the form and from that point on they have to take the matter up with the driveras named.
Old 30 March 2005, 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by druddle
Hello

Got an NIP through the post today for doing 49 in a 40 (A322 going out of Bracknell).

Firstly, my name is spelt wrong on the NIP.
Secondly i am sure the speed limit is 50mph there, but will check later on.
Thirdly the date of the alleged offence is 2/2/05 and i received the NIP today on the 24/2/05 so thats a whole 22 days after, which i beleive is too long (14 days).

I had a look on the pepipoo site and it seems to confirm the 14 day thing, but whats the deal if they spelt my name wrong ?

Dave

Make sure you look into this. We got a letter about 4 or 5yrs ago, saying we were speeding somewhere in wales, we'd never been to wales in our life, when we looked into it further, they thought our car could be a possible ringer, but when all comes to all there was one number or letter different on the reg plate. Still avent been to wales
Old 30 March 2005, 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by druddle
Hello

Got an NIP through the post today for doing 49 in a 40 (A322 going out of Bracknell).

Firstly, my name is spelt wrong on the NIP.
Secondly i am sure the speed limit is 50mph there, but will check later on.
Thirdly the date of the alleged offence is 2/2/05 and i received the NIP today on the 24/2/05 so thats a whole 22 days after, which i beleive is too long (14 days).

I had a look on the pepipoo site and it seems to confirm the 14 day thing, but whats the deal if they spelt my name wrong ?

Dave
What's the date on the NIP. i.e. When did they issue it? If they issued it too late then that's their tough luck. Is the car registered to you at your home address of through a company address?

...and have a look on pepipoo.

J.
Old 30 March 2005, 03:59 PM
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Its a company car so the 14 day thing is out of the window.....the spelling mistake can also be rectified by the slip rule.

Already have a long thread running on Pepipoo !!

Dave
Old 30 March 2005, 05:03 PM
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www.pepipoo.com

Go on the forums there and they will tell you EXACTLY what to do and if you have a case.

Sorry if this has already been mentioned but i havent read all of the thread
Old 30 March 2005, 06:09 PM
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Be careful of the name mis-spell. If the dvla have the wrong name, then so do you and it's YOUR responsibility to ensure they have the correct details. This is as likely as them 'accidentally' mis-spelling your name.
Old 31 March 2005, 07:57 AM
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Arrow <ECHO>

As I stated in post #6 !
Old 31 March 2005, 08:52 AM
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Oh yeah, didn't see that. Although it seems like some others have not read your post too
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