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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 11:22 PM
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These no response personnel, shouldn't they be helping out with more important tasks like the bundles of paperwork we always hear the police complaining about that they have to do, then if there were more people clearing the red tape quicker real criminals going to court would get to court quicker?
How on earth are these people supposed to know what to put in the file if they have had no dealings with the investigation!! Only the officer in the case can do this - we can't simply hand things over *****-nilly.

If you have bought the bike with non-standard plates then its buyer beware. I have not seen your plates and if they are not as bad as you say then you may have a case at court.

The briefing would be to comply with the law and force policy concerning traffic regulations as this was obviously a traffic offences operation. Therefore i would suggest that your force's current policy is to issue a fixed pen tickets to non-standard plates. Lights etc may get a verbal warning or defect form.

Most people in this country want 'Zero Tollerance' policing - well here you go!
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 11:23 PM
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Hey Bob

Where d'ya get that ticket mate?

£40? Was it not £30?
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Old Feb 28, 2005 | 11:49 PM
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****, remind me not to venture too far north from T-W then

I have zero tolerance on any ***** like burglars, you know me and you know that is the truth. I'm not getting involved in all this thread as I really can't be arsed

However my crew member and I have been involved in nicking, 2 people for Theft from builders vans on Yew Tree Road, 1 for burglary from the lottery kiosk in the RVP, 1 for threatening some Skinners kids by the 5 ways with a fake handgun, 1 for arson in Calverley Park and 1 for supplying drugs. In the last week. However in the downtime from these jobs, I've given out about 4 tickets for XS Speed ranging from 45 along St Johns to 120 on the A21. Also done about 5 for moblie phones, 5 for kids with no seatbelts, 1 for driving reading a book, 1 for having an insecure load, 2 for number plates that were taking the p1ss and 1 for ignoring a red light. Oh and about 6 VDRS. See, some of us still work.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 12:07 AM
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Was a good weeks work. Lots of tickets but for offences I saw on the road

Now I'm getting pished to unwind

Ropey old Skoda LMAO, looks scary in the rear view tho doesn't it
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 12:09 AM
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Oh and I ate a bag of doughnuts in that week too

I forgot the most important thing
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 12:16 AM
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We do have zero tellerance on burglars..!!!

The thing that annoys me is that one bad experience over a minor traffic infringement seems to automatically cast doubt on the service we provide in total. Policing and its management are very complex and cover a great amount of grey areas.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 12:20 AM
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Felix Chill mate.

99% of people don't mind being stopped by a 'real' police officer and dealt with.

What they do object to is what Bob is talking about.

Now I know Bob and he knows me, we both know where each other are coming from. I have to say I agree with him on this.

Catch someone on the road and they are fair game. Wait until they leave their car/bike and stick a ticket on it for this and it's stupid. IMHO.

As for those who complain about getting stopped, let them get on with it. Half of the stuff they post on here about what happened is BS anyway.
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Old Mar 1, 2005 | 12:25 AM
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He made positive progress, using the path of least resitance

I did warn you
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 10:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Nathan L
Felix Chill mate.

Catch someone on the road and they are fair game. Wait until they leave their car/bike and stick a ticket on it for this and it's stupid. IMHO.

We haven't the time to wait for the biker to return, if its on the road travelling - fine you can argue your point. But if an offence is seen on a parked bike are you wanting us to ignore it. Would that be fair on the biker caught on the road.

There are millions of individual laws in this country from murder to minor traffic regulations. Its our job to manage and uphold this law.
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 01:36 PM
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Bravo2Zero,

I can honestly say as an armed reponse officer in Manchester i have never ever heard of us being sent out as traffic wardens!!

Good way of making sure you pay your fine though, might make a suggestion to my bosses, more money in the kitty!!!!

Again i'm laughing my socks off at another great debate, just watch you change sides and opinions throughout. One minute there's not enough police on the streets so we tell you how response teams are set up to help with this, the next you're saying they should all be inside sorting paperwork out!!!! Sheesh make your mind up mate!

To all officers out there reading this, WE'LL NEVER CHANGE OPINONS ON HERE, GIVE IT UP AND JUST KEEP DOING WHAT WE GET PAID TO DO!!!!

So what if someone doesn't like getting caught out with a dodgy plate, if he's so sure its straight take it to court, you'll get off if its ok. Another example of moaning at us after getting caught out again. I don't agree with some things officers are asked to do or do off their own backs but it wasn't me who did it so stop moaning at me!!

If you ask a serious question, I and every other cop on here will bend over backwards to help but I for one ill not apologise for every speeding ticket, every non trackered car that goes missing etc!
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 02:59 PM
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I have been checking back on this thread regularly and am amazed at how it has developed, I feel (as the original poster) I need to clarify in fewer words what I said at the beginning:

Whenever I travel in my car I am permanently paranoid that I am going to get stopped by police or flashed by a scamera. Yet there are others out there who apparently have no fear of any authority and 'happily' wander round committing the vilest of atrocities

Yes I did moan about the fact I had been stopped by the police, for travelling 10mph below the speed limit, but I feel I was justified to do so, after all, it was dark and snowing heavily.

I never intended this thread to become a 'police bashing' session.
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Old Mar 2, 2005 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Felix.
We haven't the time to wait for the biker to return, if its on the road travelling - fine you can argue your point. But if an offence is seen on a parked bike are you wanting us to ignore it. Would that be fair on the biker caught on the road.

There are millions of individual laws in this country from murder to minor traffic regulations. Its our job to manage and uphold this law.
Felix, do me a favour, don't quote it's 'our job to uphold this law' at me. You do what you like, I'll keep using my discretion until I see things moving thanks very much.

I'd rather deal with people face to face to be honest. I don't have to walk round car parks, where I won't get any confrontation, to get my process.
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