IS A TURBO 2000 REALLY THAT BAD !!!!!
20 February 2005, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobydood
I must confess my ignorance with regards to Jap WRX internals vs UK Internals but I know there are loads of UK Imprezas running over 300bhp on standard internals and some with as much as 400... Which I believe is pretty much the limit for standard internals on an import or a UK car... So if you are going to modify there is not much difference with the engine. However the Imports do have better brakes and suspension I *think* (correct me if I am wrong somebody)
20 February 2005, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisp
Nope, my WRX was 280ps (276bhp)
have a read of the faq section 2.1.1 gives all the power outputs in ps
www.sidc.co.uk/faq.htm
have a read of the faq section 2.1.1 gives all the power outputs in ps
www.sidc.co.uk/faq.htm
20 February 2005, 09:03 PM
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The best Scoobie just HAS to be a:-
Classic MY00 Wagon, One Owner, Full Subaru History, UK Car, Not Raced, Not Tracked, Not Modded, Sensible Mileage ............
Finding One is the Hardest Part!
Oh. Yes, I just happen to have THAT car and no, its NOT For Sale
A Classic!!
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Classic MY00 Wagon, One Owner, Full Subaru History, UK Car, Not Raced, Not Tracked, Not Modded, Sensible Mileage ............
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Oh. Yes, I just happen to have THAT car and no, its NOT For Sale
A Classic!!
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20 February 2005, 09:07 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisp
Air con is switched off, momentarily when you apply full throttle (well it does on the imports, not sure about uk turbo with air con)
people only love uk cars until sumbody gives them a quick blast in a fast import
20 February 2005, 09:12 PM
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For once I find myself agreeing with Pete. I must be ill.
(except for PPP!) oh thank God, I am not agreeing with him. Phew!
Nick
(except for PPP!) oh thank God, I am not agreeing with him. Phew!
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Originally Posted by pslewis
The best Scoobie just HAS to be a:-
Classic MY00 Wagon, One Owner, Full Subaru History, UK Car, Not Raced, Not Tracked, Not Modded, Sensible Mileage ............
Finding One is the Hardest Part!
Oh. Yes, I just happen to have THAT car and no, its NOT For Sale
A Classic!!
Pete
Classic MY00 Wagon, One Owner, Full Subaru History, UK Car, Not Raced, Not Tracked, Not Modded, Sensible Mileage ............
Finding One is the Hardest Part!
Oh. Yes, I just happen to have THAT car and no, its NOT For Sale
A Classic!!
Pete
20 February 2005, 09:43 PM
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You'll not need to go faster than you can in a classic, but you might want too 
It may not have a performance advantage over the Gti's of the magnitude that it once enjoyed, but the fact that there isn't a GTi out now that can catch it to 60mph -or do significantly better in the more real world 30-70 mph increment- some 10 years after it was introduced in the UK, speaks volumes.
Make no mistake a Classic is a very quick car!! Up to sensible speeds, its largely untouchable, especially in the damp/wet. The most telling comment was from a friend who owns a. . . .wait for it. . . new M3. Now, don't worry, I'm not going to make exaggerated performance claims here, the BM is certainly a quicker car, but I took him for a spin and he left the car with the following words: "love it: grips like a leech and goes like stink, proper kick in the back performance!!!"
Says it all really.
It may not have a performance advantage over the Gti's of the magnitude that it once enjoyed, but the fact that there isn't a GTi out now that can catch it to 60mph -or do significantly better in the more real world 30-70 mph increment- some 10 years after it was introduced in the UK, speaks volumes.Make no mistake a Classic is a very quick car!! Up to sensible speeds, its largely untouchable, especially in the damp/wet. The most telling comment was from a friend who owns a. . . .wait for it. . . new M3. Now, don't worry, I'm not going to make exaggerated performance claims here, the BM is certainly a quicker car, but I took him for a spin and he left the car with the following words: "love it: grips like a leech and goes like stink, proper kick in the back performance!!!"
Says it all really.
20 February 2005, 09:44 PM
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my my i did start something then but cheers guys i am not an owner yet im selling my current car to fund the impreza im goin uk car because i cant be bothered to insure an import ive seen some nice looking power outputs with few mods really and there aint many complaints about of reliability so hopefully in the next month ill hace my impreza ready for my trip to nurburg on the 8th april !!!
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20 February 2005, 09:56 PM
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A few years ago I worked at a Subaru dealer and drove Classic’s, P1’s, WRX’s right through to the early bugeye STI’s and to be honest I found the original to be about the best all-rounder
20 February 2005, 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
The best Scoobie just HAS to be a:-
Classic MY00 Wagon, One Owner, Full Subaru History, UK Car, Not Raced, Not Tracked, Not Modded, Sensible Mileage ............
Finding One is the Hardest Part!
Oh. Yes, I just happen to have THAT car and no, its NOT For Sale
A Classic!!
Pete
Classic MY00 Wagon, One Owner, Full Subaru History, UK Car, Not Raced, Not Tracked, Not Modded, Sensible Mileage ............
Finding One is the Hardest Part!
Oh. Yes, I just happen to have THAT car and no, its NOT For Sale
A Classic!!
Pete
long live the P1 lol
20 February 2005, 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by john coffey
So are you saying that you prefered a Turbo 2000 to a P1 ?
20 February 2005, 10:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Sub69
The P1 is the better car but it doesn't justify the extra money needed to buy and insure over a Classic.
Plus you cant get a fridge in the back of a P1 and it has more w4nker magnets as standard.
All good cars though
Dave
MY00 wagon as described by Mr Lewis + PPP(soon) and ice mods.
WAGONS RULE OK ?
20 February 2005, 11:15 PM
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Just sold my MY98 wagon with PPP. (Got all of PPP second hand piece by piece and fitted myself, cost about £400.) 255BHP, 276ft.lb torque. New owner just taken it away this evening. Would have another in the blink of an eye, and no doubt I will one day when finances allow.
I'm totally gutted. Owned it for 3 years, and probably it took 2.5 years to get the car exactly how I wanted it, and now it's gone.
A friend who live 130 miles away now owns it. See him quite regularly, not sure whether that is better or not, although he has made me a named driver on his insurance.
If you look long and hard and don't rush into a purchase there are plenty of mint, well looked after cars like the one I owned out there to be found.
I'm totally gutted. Owned it for 3 years, and probably it took 2.5 years to get the car exactly how I wanted it, and now it's gone.
A friend who live 130 miles away now owns it. See him quite regularly, not sure whether that is better or not, although he has made me a named driver on his insurance.
If you look long and hard and don't rush into a purchase there are plenty of mint, well looked after cars like the one I owned out there to be found.
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21 February 2005, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
The best Scoobie just HAS to be a:-
Classic MY00 Wagon, One Owner, Full Subaru History, UK Car, Not Raced, Not Tracked, Not Modded, Sensible Mileage ............
Finding One is the Hardest Part!
Oh. Yes, I just happen to have THAT car and no, its NOT For Sale
A Classic!!
Pete
Classic MY00 Wagon, One Owner, Full Subaru History, UK Car, Not Raced, Not Tracked, Not Modded, Sensible Mileage ............
Finding One is the Hardest Part!
Oh. Yes, I just happen to have THAT car and no, its NOT For Sale
A Classic!!
Pete
21 February 2005, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by john coffey
and make great reliable run a rounds if kept standard and not chavved up.
and meanwhile back in the real world, a UK Impreza is a fine car and plenty fast enough for UK roads and their poxy cameras/coppers etc. As the posters say, if it isn't just mod it.
21 February 2005, 01:01 PM
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What I meant was you can buy a 98/99/00 Turbo for peanuts these days, and for a quick reliable form of transport they are ideal as long as you can handle the fuel & insurance costs.
Obviously a Diesel would be better for mile munching, but if your daily commute is less than 50 miles per day an older Scoob will fit the bill nicely as your run a round.
Obviously a Diesel would be better for mile munching, but if your daily commute is less than 50 miles per day an older Scoob will fit the bill nicely as your run a round.
21 February 2005, 02:37 PM
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UK cars are not that fast once on the move, but then again they only have 208/215bhp.
Cars like clio cups and CTR's will easily match it, if not beat it on the move.
Cars like clio cups and CTR's will easily match it, if not beat it on the move.
13.7secs @100.6mph 1/4 mile for 208bhp uk turbo
http://www.sidc.co.uk/faq.htm#2.2
You dont have to be a genius to know that is in a different league to a clio or ctr.
There are so many jokers on here
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21 February 2005, 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
not this again....this was done with bug/blob wrxs which are considerably slower than uk classics.
13.7secs @100.6mph 1/4 mile for 208bhp uk turbo
http://www.sidc.co.uk/faq.htm#2.2
You dont have to be a genius to know that is in a different league to a clio or ctr.
There are so many jokers on here
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13.7secs @100.6mph 1/4 mile for 208bhp uk turbo
http://www.sidc.co.uk/faq.htm#2.2
You dont have to be a genius to know that is in a different league to a clio or ctr.
There are so many jokers on here
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You could have quoted the figures for the 215bhp MY99 model though!
21 February 2005, 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
Most of the earlier ones are listed as less than 260, excepting RA, R, and sti models which aren't what we are talking about, and the quoted outputs are based on 100 RON fuel which we don't have unless you want to **** about adding lickle bockles of octane-boosting ****e to every tankful of fuel. Yours is quicker than the general stock of WRXs- congratulations.
From september 1996 all import WRX saloons had 280PS (276bhp).
The WRX wagons were 280PS (276bhp) from 1997 (except the rare auto version)
Yep on ron 100 fuel, but nothing a quick remap for uk fuel wont fix
Mine is mapped to run on straight optimax
21 February 2005, 09:01 PM
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My UK Wagon did a 13.5 at pod on a damp greasy track... Show me a Clio/CTR/GTI that will match those times...? Yes mine is not standard but there are standard ones doing those times... Anyway - the ScoobyECU only cost £150 I believe...
21 February 2005, 09:20 PM
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I have a MY00 UK spec turbo and I love it......but only because it's Tek3'd etc, and circa 270 brake. Thought it was **** when it was standard, I was really, genuinely disappointed with it after all the stories I'd read about them. Depends on what you were used to previously...I had a mildly modified Corrado VR6, and the Scoob just felt gutless on the road after it. Not meant to sound harsh on the Subaru at all, it really does matter what your previous car was like. If I'd come from a 1.4 escort, the Scoob'd be magic as standard.
21 February 2005, 09:27 PM
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That's not a fair comparison really.. The VR6 Corrado was pretty special - and with nearly 200nhp and only fwd it was one quick car. There are not that many hot hatches that quick even today... The VR6 Corrado was quicker across the 1/4 than even todays "mighty" Civic Type R. So any run of the mill hot hatch driver will be more than impressed with even the standard UK car.
However... talking Corrados... My brother had a VR6 Corrado with a 1.8T (225) motor, bigger IHI Turbo and different management. With the boost turned down to 15psi it was making around 280bhp. To drive it was totally insane. Wicked Torque steer that made it tricky in a straight line - never mind going round a bend as it came on boost which was just mental... My Scoob with similar power is an absolute dream to drive and would have left the corrado for dust as soon as you came to a set of bends....
However... talking Corrados... My brother had a VR6 Corrado with a 1.8T (225) motor, bigger IHI Turbo and different management. With the boost turned down to 15psi it was making around 280bhp. To drive it was totally insane. Wicked Torque steer that made it tricky in a straight line - never mind going round a bend as it came on boost which was just mental... My Scoob with similar power is an absolute dream to drive and would have left the corrado for dust as soon as you came to a set of bends....
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22 February 2005, 04:44 AM
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Not trying to sound petty here, but there was never a 1.8 turbo vr6 corrado. The whole vr6 thing refers to it being a v6, which is a 2.9 normally aspirated lump. I think the only blown version was the G60, which had a supercharger rather than turbo.
Correct me if i'm wrong.
Correct me if i'm wrong.