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Old 10 January 2005, 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by laser ed
hi, thinking of changing myRB5 for a EVO6, what do you all think, is it a good move or bad. all comments welcome.
if you're getting shot of the scooby, what other cars apart from the evo are you considering?

personally if i had the chance to get an evo i'd go for it. seems that you like your cars so why not chalk another bargain performance car off your list?

i sold my series mcrae for my current ukMY99 and if i'm truthfull i wish i'd have gone for an evo, just to say i'd had one.

now if you're tossing up between an evo or skyline then that's a whole different kettle of fish
Old 10 January 2005, 07:00 PM
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Forgive me if this sounds like bragging but I've driven a lot of miles in various Scoobs and Evos. My earnest advice is that you'll not be able to make the right choice until you've also done a quite a lot of miles. Scoobs and Evos are DIFFERENT.

A quick blast in an Evo will blow you away with terrific speed, taut handling and magic steering. They can make Scoobs feel almost ponderous. But 100 miles later, when you're stuck in traffic and already beginning to wonder about filling up again, the restless ride and wriggling steering wheel can be tiresome.

A Scoob is less hard-edged all round. Still a hoot to drive, but much easier to live with as a daily driver, and significantly cheaper.

To put my money where my mouth is, I've now decided to keep my UK00 Scoob for a while yet, and have just fitted a US 2.5l motor and TD05 turbo. You can can have one professionally fitted and up and running for £4k.

Richard.
Old 10 January 2005, 08:35 PM
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hi,
i'm new here ive just sold my evo6 rsx 350bhp and bought a impreza 02 sti prodrive 310bhp edt, ive had a couple of evo's and they are very fast cars,but the insurance is 45% more,parts are dearer very harsh ride and refilling is a joke as for me it was a 15 minute drive to the nearest optimax station, if you decide to get one then think about using it for a weekend car as a daily driver its a bit of a mare...
hi mark its chrisevo1 from the mlr
Old 10 January 2005, 09:12 PM
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4500 miles service, i change the oil on my scoob every 4000 miles.rb5 is a good car but not in the league of an evo6.other than the handling and performance the bonus for me was getting the evo to say 350/360 bhp could cost less than £1200.theres different ways of doing it.to get a classic to that performance safely would cost a fortune.i have both cars evo6 rules
Old 11 January 2005, 08:44 AM
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thanks for all the comments,

hoskib you are right i do like my cars and the evo is on my to own list.

thanks agene for all your comments every one,

it looks like i will be going for the evo got to have the experience of having one, you all know what it is like, BIG boys and there toys.
Old 11 January 2005, 09:03 AM
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Have you tried one?

What about an R33 GTR?

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Old 11 January 2005, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Dark Blue Mark
Have you tried one?

What about an R33 GTR?

MB
no not yet but i will, dont reely like the skyline it would have to be one of big ones £30000+ and dont think she would be happy with that
Old 11 January 2005, 09:58 AM
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Deffo try the EVO before you buy then, as others have said on this thread! Im sure you will like it, but very different from the scoob.

MB
Old 11 January 2005, 10:26 AM
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I wouldn't change the RB5 for another Scoob, seemed a bit pointless kind of been there done that so I sold the RB5 to a good friend of mine so that he could enjoy it and got a DC5
Old 11 January 2005, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Dark Blue Mark
Deffo try the EVO before you buy then, as others have said on this thread! Im sure you will like it, but very different from the scoob.

MB
i will this weekend
Old 11 January 2005, 10:48 AM
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just got a quote for insurance for EVO6 GSR £747.60, £20.00 more than RB5.
Old 11 January 2005, 01:32 PM
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just got myself an evo 6 before xmas.....love it to bits

do it m8 (and get the 330 conversion )
Old 11 January 2005, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by laser ed
just got a quote for insurance for EVO6 GSR £747.60, £20.00 more than RB5.
I'm paying £800 for the RB5 (declaring mods) and they wanted £1600 for the Evo 6 as standard. Within a month or so of getting the Evo, the transfer box went. That cost loads to fix!! So scooby have chocolate gearboxes and Evos have chocolate transfer boxes

When I first drove the Evo 6 GSR (with 330 BHP, as recorded by Powerstation) I was amazed at the acceleration to be honest. Few hundred miles under my belt, and I wanted my RB5 back As I said, my RB5 is no monster (recorded 248 BHP / 244 Torque) but with the suspension mods, will keep a Evo 6 behind it around normal roads

As I said I drove the Evo 6 for a few months, and also drove my RB5. When the Evo was sold, I didn't miss it at all

Now I've had an Evo 6 for a few months, I wouldn't bother buying one in the future.

Cheers Phill
Old 11 January 2005, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by DAVE-W
just got myself an evo 6 before xmas.....love it to bits

do it m8 (and get the 330 conversion )
isn't it just about that with the mods that are done already
Old 11 January 2005, 01:57 PM
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oh sorry m8.....didn't read it properly
Old 11 January 2005, 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by babber
and they wanted £1600 for the Evo 6
You must have a crap insurance company
Old 11 January 2005, 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by babber
As I said, my RB5 is no monster (recorded 248 BHP / 244 Torque) but with the suspension mods, will keep a Evo 6 behind it around normal roads
So now we are comparing modified Vs standard? How does that work?

On that basis, my Evo would quite comfortably keep your RB5 behind it without breaking a sweat, with the suspension mods as you put it....

Old 11 January 2005, 02:53 PM
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Originally Posted by DAVE-W
oh sorry m8.....didn't read it properly
DAVE-W, sorry

i dident post the mods but heer thay are EVO V11 ALLOYS, AYC, HKS HYPER MUFFLER, HKS IND KIT, HKS SSQ DUMP VALVE, DE CAT
Old 11 January 2005, 03:01 PM
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i'm no expert m8, but mine has the extreme 330 conversion-from their site:-

XT330

HKS Sports Air Induction kit
Haywood and Scott Sports Exhaust system with down pipe, fully manufactured from high grade stainless steel.
ARP uprated Competition Conrod Bolts
Turbo boost upgrade (1.4 bar VII, 1.275 bar V & VI)
Castrol RS Fully Synthetic Engine Oil and replacement Oil Filter
This well proven and developed conversion was first offered by us in 1997 and since then we have modified over 200 Evolution V, VI and VII's proving it to be one of the most reliable packages available. Boasting over 320 BHP and 330ft/lbs Torque on VII this conversion is not just about an increase in power, the increased flexibility of the engine following our modifications is quite startling and is tremendous value for money.

Not sure if you'd get 320/330bhp without the ecu / boost upgrade?

Dave
Old 11 January 2005, 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by C
So now we are comparing modified Vs standard? How does that work?

On that basis, my Evo would quite comfortably keep your RB5 behind it without breaking a sweat, with the suspension mods as you put it....

Both Evos were moded mate..... One with engine mods and the other with suspension mods

Looks like you can't speak your mind on a scooby BBS without the MLR boys getting all stroppy

Phill
Old 11 January 2005, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by babber
Both Evos were moded mate..... One with engine mods and the other with suspension mods

Looks like you can't speak your mind on a scooby BBS without the MLR boys getting all stroppy

Phill
You must be in the minority then, because that goes against at everyone else says, even the Scooby owners will admit the Evo is a sharper, better handling car, but for the softies it could be considered a little 'hard'.

Not get stroppy, we have to keep coming back to correct everyone's incorrect information (The classics being worse MPG, Servicing, blah, blah which is all complete rubbish).

Got to provide a balanced arguement after all
Old 11 January 2005, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by C
You must be in the minority then, because that goes against at everyone else says, even the Scooby owners will admit the Evo is a sharper, better handling car, but for the softies it could be considered a little 'hard'.

Not get stroppy, we have to keep coming back to correct everyone's incorrect information (The classics being worse MPG, Servicing, blah, blah which is all complete rubbish).

Got to provide a balanced arguement after all
I'm just adding my own opinion.... Sorry if it doesn't agree with your opinion!!

Fact, I've been driving an RB5 WR for 3 years with a few minor mods (248 BHP with suspension mods

Fact, I've driven a T reg Evo 6 GSR for a number of months and this was moded (320 BHP)

Fact, loads of good friends of mine have owned Evos and scoobies (most of them moded)

Fact, the Scooby isn't good on fuel, but the Evo is absolutely terrible. I managed 30 MPG in the RB5, and 15 MPG in the Evo

Fact, I followed a moded Evo with coilovers over a 10 mile private road, and at the end we were still together. The guy driving the Evo drives like he stole it all the time, so I guess he was trying

Fact, my mates RB5, is almost identical to my RB5, both WRs with same mods on ECU and suspension

Fact, the mate with the RB5 also owned the Evo 6. He still got the RB5, the Evo is long gone I wonder why??

When I drove the Evo (with AYC) I could never tell when the car was right on the limit. I didn't feel the car gave me any feedback what so ever. I wondered if that's why Evos seem to get smashed up quite a lot, and it's usually a lot of damage. The driver thinks he's a invincible, get faster and faster then looses control and has a big crash.... I have coilovers, droplinks, strut braces, ARB, good tyres (correctly inflated) and have had the cambers done at PowerStation. It handles like a dream, and is very very predicable. The Evo, in standard and moded didn't provide "ME" with the same level of confidence, as the scoobies did.

I don't think everyone’s agreeing on here, and I'm the only one who's not . I think you'll find that some prefers the Evo and others don't. Its personal choice, and I don't think your providing a balanced argument

Thanks Phill
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Originally Posted by babber
When I first drove the Evo 6 GSR (with 330 BHP, as recorded by Powerstation)
Originally Posted by babber
Fact, I've driven a T reg Evo 6 GSR for a number of months and this was moded (320 BHP)
A few posts and it has lost 10 bhp
Old 11 January 2005, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by babber
I wondered if that's why Evos seem to get smashed up quite a lot, and it's usually a lot of damage.
Do they?
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LOL @ S.B.

Originally Posted by babber
I'm just adding my own opinion.... Sorry if it doesn't agree with your opinion!!

Fact, I've been driving an RB5 WR for 3 years with a few minor mods (248 BHP with suspension mods

Fact, I've driven a T reg Evo 6 GSR for a number of months and this was moded (320 BHP)
So it's fair to say you are not particulary familiar with an Evo compared to a Scooby? It took me a while to adjust from a P1 to an Evo as well & get used to the AYC.

Fact, loads of good friends of mine have owned Evos and scoobies (most of them moded)

Fact, the Scooby isn't good on fuel, but the Evo is absolutely terrible. I managed 30 MPG in the RB5, and 15 MPG in the Evo
I suggest there was something wrong with the Evo then, because both my tuned P1 & Evo were almost identical MPG, which seems a common trend with most. Maybe you didnt realise the tank in the Evo is 20 litres smaller?

Fact, I followed a moded Evo with coilovers over a 10 mile private road, and at the end we were still together. The guy driving the Evo drives like he stole it all the time, so I guess he was trying

Fact, my mates RB5, is almost identical to my RB5, both WRs with same mods on ECU and suspension

Fact, the mate with the RB5 also owned the Evo 6. He still got the RB5, the Evo is long gone I wonder why??
You are definately the minority then, lots make the step up to an Evo from a Scoob, very few take the step back down again - was it a bit manley for you?

When I drove the Evo (with AYC) I could never tell when the car was right on the limit. I didn't feel the car gave me any feedback what so ever. I wondered if that's why Evos seem to get smashed up quite a lot, and it's usually a lot of damage. The driver thinks he's a invincible, get faster and faster then looses control and has a big crash.... I have coilovers, droplinks, strut braces, ARB, good tyres (correctly inflated) and have had the cambers done at PowerStation. It handles like a dream, and is very very predicable. The Evo, in standard and moded didn't provide "ME" with the same level of confidence, as the scoobies did.

I don't think everyone’s agreeing on here, and I'm the only one who's not . I think you'll find that some prefers the Evo and others don't. Its personal choice, and I don't think your providing a balanced argument

Thanks Phill
I hardly call a few months in an Evo Vs years in a Scooby a balanced arguement either

I agree its very much down to personal taste how a car handles however, but to dismiss one under such circumstances is a little silly I think
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Originally Posted by C
You must be in the minority then, because that goes against at everyone else says, even the Scooby owners will admit the Evo is a sharper, better handling car, but for the softies it could be considered a little 'hard'.

Not get stroppy, we have to keep coming back to correct everyone's incorrect information (The classics being worse MPG, Servicing, blah, blah which is all complete rubbish).

Got to provide a balanced arguement after all

Yep test drive an STi 6 type R or RA for a balanced view, pure drivers car
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Well im right and you are all wrong!






errr What WAS the question again??





Oh Yeah are they Different types of car? - YES!
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Originally Posted by chrisp
Yep test drive an STi 6 type R or RA for a balanced view, pure drivers car
I'll compare that to an Evo 6 RS then
Old 12 January 2005, 10:21 AM
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Originally Posted by S.B.
A few posts and it has lost 10 bhp
Yeah, a little bit like how the Evo de-values. All you Evo drivers have lost £500 since the start of this thread

I wasn't sure if it was 330 or 320 BHP, spoke to my mate and it was 322 BHP.

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Originally Posted by babber
Yeah, a little bit like how the Evo de-values. All you Evo drivers have lost £500 since the start of this thread
Now I know you're on a wind up!

Comparing Evo 5/6 prices to classic STi's, lets not go there because you all might get upset when you see comparitive Evo's go for thousands more


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