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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 02:47 PM
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So the B-Spec mode isn't a totally seperate game mode? I got the impression there was Arcade Mode, GT Mode & B-Spec Mode - but likely not. Am I right in thinking the both A & B Spec's are both part of the GT mode, only it's a choice of who does the race - You or the Computer?
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 03:54 PM
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So the B-Spec mode isn't a totally seperate game mode? I got the impression there was Arcade Mode, GT Mode & B-Spec Mode - but likely not. Am I right in thinking the both A & B Spec's are both part of the GT mode, only it's a choice of who does the race - You or the Computer?
Thats right if you cant be bothered to do a race put it into B Spec. You still have to keep an eye on things drag the car into pits get him to pick the pace up etc. You can also speed the game up x3 so cuts the time down.
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 04:04 PM
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As I thought, I was under the impression was a new mode.

Sounds like a decent additon, Some of the Endurance races in GT3 got a bit boring - I ended up giving the other cars a couple of laps head start when doing the Tokyo R246 race.
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by paulpalmer
Was that remark called for I think not
I humbly apoligise.

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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 04:47 PM
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Grant its a Jap Machine m8. 24 hr Endurance is so tedious
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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damn mine wont boot properly, it brings up the first screen and then hangs
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 08:13 PM
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Am I missing something? I thought the whole point of GT4 was that it would include online play? I was disappointed with GT3 as it was just the previous ones re-vamped slightly.

I have both a PS2 (loving SanAndreas) and an X Box (Proj Goth 2 is ace, struggling to see why Halo2 is worth playing online) and can't see how PS2 graphics, no matter what they've done, can justify the same old GT gameplay.

Someone convince me I'm wrong - I loved the early GT's as they were different - now they look (and feel) dated......

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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 08:26 PM
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Am I missing something? I thought the whole point of GT4 was that it would include online play? I was disappointed with GT3 as it was just the previous ones re-vamped slightly.

I have both a PS2 (loving SanAndreas) and an X Box (Proj Goth 2 is ace, struggling to see why Halo2 is worth playing online) and can't see how PS2 graphics, no matter what they've done, can justify the same old GT gameplay.

Someone convince me I'm wrong - I loved the early GT's as they were different - now they look (and feel) dated......

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Have you played GT4 yet? Different league to the others.
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Old Jan 7, 2005 | 11:07 PM
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no, but the same was said about GT3.

I'm struggling to see how the PS2 can really deliver THAT much better graphics, therefore there would have to be something pretty stunning about the gameplay to get me interested, especially if it's not got on-line play. i.e. is it more fun to play than Project Gotham?
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 11:29 AM
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Graphics arent anything Revolutionary but gameplay is much better than Project Gotham. Was never really a fan of that anyway. Tracks have all been tidied up with gradients and cambers now. You ll see soon.
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 12:14 PM
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Grant,
If I was ignorant I would tell you to F off!!!

The menu's are not that bad to navigate through.

Gregjd,
Yes it will run in hi-def mode as long as you have a component cable running through to a Hi-Def compatiable TV..... even on a UK PS2.

Gordo,
It is easily the best graphical piece of stoftware available on the PS2..... after running with the XBOX for several months, even I was surprised at the quality.

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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 02:53 PM
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Sorry Shaun.

I was getting more and more eager as i knew the game was on its way. When it arrived it wouldn't load on my machine so i borrowed my neighbours machine and it worked first time.

The game is another level up from GT3 and then some.

One of the license tests has you complete the Nurburgring in a Merc 190e 2.5 Cosworth following a pace car, . The sense of speed with the tyre noise and the wind noise increasing with the speed is so real feeling. The noise from the cars is spot on with the TVR being my favourite so far. The graphics run at an astonishing rate considering the spec of the machine i.e the Toyota Lemans car travelling at 240mph along the back straight at LeSarthe is just stunning.

First car i bought was a Toyote Corrolla 1.6 FR with 79000kms on the clock. It started off at 130ps and now sits at 230hp with HKS twin plate clutch, 2 way diff, and one or two engine mods. Soon found out how to turn off the Traction Control and the Stability Control, While browsing the used car lot i spotted the one. A red STI version 2 with gold alloys and a pink badge. Identical to mine AAAAAAHHHHHHH.
Trouble was i only had 450.000 credits and was for sale at 900.000 credits so i thought i would do a few more races and come back and purchase it. A hour later i went back to the used car lot and it was gone

GT4 is definetly the new king in racing games, PGR2 has had its day im afraid.

Grant
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 03:41 PM
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Sounds pretty cool. Will have to sit and wait....

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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 05:33 PM
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Just doing 25 laps of the Ring in a 61 E Type
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 05:57 PM
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>Just doing 25 laps of the Ring in a 61 E Type

Ouch! Can you do the B spec thing?
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Old Jan 8, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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Yep just have to keep an eye on things it wont overtake lapped cars unless told to and also you have to organise pitstops.
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by fatmanscooby
Just doing 25 laps of the Ring in a 61 E Type
Glutton for punishment. Later on i am taking a 16ps 1958 Subaru 360 round the ring for a few laps to "learn" the circuit. A nice wee drive in the country.

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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 01:13 PM
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so are we talking legit import versions of the game here ?
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 01:18 PM
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whens the uk version out ??
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by DazV
so are we talking legit import versions of the game here ?
The game is an original Jap version but the PS2 is a UK machine with a Messiah chip which lets it run import games as well as back ups.

The game cost me about £45 delivered from Japan and took about a week to get here.

I probably wont bother with the UK release as the Jap version is accessible enough with GTPlanet filling in the bits that are not translated.

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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by P.Cole
whens the uk version out ??
Some "rumours" now arising about a slippage on the UK PAL version release date. Rumours now say it has went back to the end of April. These are just rumours mind you.

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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 04:00 PM
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is the mg maestro turbo in it, i heard a rumour it was

fecking awesome if it was. I know the r5 turbo is in it (midengined one)
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 07:35 PM
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Old Jan 9, 2005 | 10:55 PM
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i was actually playing Gt3 today

did sum amazing scandinavian flicks in an sti6 @ grand valley
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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If it is true that it's slipped to end of april then it's going to be a modchip & Jap import version for me pretty shortly...

(goes off to investigate)
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 11:35 AM
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Let me know if you want a Jap copy, friend can pop it in the post for you.
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Old Jan 10, 2005 | 11:43 AM
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Most retailers are still saying 25th Feb, although GAME are saying "TBC". If the release stays as end of Feb then I'll hold off, if it's a bit later than that I'll be going for a chip, and I might as well got MGS3 from the states while I'm at it!
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 08:57 AM
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DazV,

No other versions available other than the original ones. I am aware that the original has been backed-up and ripped but that was still over 5gb, and I am not aware whether or not the PS2 will read Dual Layer DVD+R's

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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 09:03 AM
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What's the opponent AI like?
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Old Jan 11, 2005 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Dream Weaver
What's the opponent AI like?
It's supposedly better than GT3's but not by much.

In GT3, AI cars were supposed to capable of revenge tactics if you cleaned one of them out, I tried for ages but none of them ever did take road rage out on me - although 2 of them had a go at each other, right in front of me down the main straight of grand valley, 1 of them was travelling sideways right in front of me - it was pretty impressive and me wish I had the abilty to take vids...
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