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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 11:08 PM
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A bloody good driver! he raced in the race of champions and won
And more importantly, knocked Shumacher out in one of the earlier rounds This spoilt the French crowd's hope for the Schumacher/Loeb final.
Interesting how, after the organisers put on the Scumacher vs Loeb race to cheer the crowd up, whoever it was on Grandstand (I forget) said how "that just proves schumacher is the best in the world".

As for the "deliberately driving the WR1 badly meaning it must be Jonathon Palmer" theory - sorry, but get real!

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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 11:16 PM
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Last series it was Perry Mason, this year it was originally Ben Collins ( http://www.bencollinsracing.com/ ) and now I believe it is a variety of people.

You will note Ben also featured a few weeks back racing the evo wrc against the grassboarder guy.

He's a top guy and a friend of a friend, he did a stint in my mates GT race team, Embassy Racing at Thruxton to replace Paula Cook, and came from the back take 2nd.
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Edcase
Last series it was Perry Mason.
PMSL, perhaps you mean Perry McCarthy (as mentioned above)???
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 11:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
I thought Reno was a town in Nevada.
I used to live there.
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Old Dec 19, 2004 | 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Roblad
I heard that it could be Damon Hill??
I'll 2nd that
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by forest172
I`d heard he is the test driver for the Reno F1 team, which would explain the Reno F1 car being driven around the track by the stig himself!
I dont understand why it needs to be an Renault F1 driver.....after all didnt Tiff drive a Ferrair F1 car when they were testing it on Topgear against the F50....?

Didnt Martin Brundle recently drive a F1 car in London?
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by RB5_245
is that fact?

personally my opinion was john Palmer..... That would explain why the WR1 did so bad on the track. Surely a school child could have driven it better than that, if they didn't have a grudge against the sidc.
Sound like driving a scoobie is a fine art that escapes professional drivers?

LOL
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 02:13 AM
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Originally Posted by hugo
Why did they put an Evo up against the Audi Quatro? Would it not have been more pertinent to have used a Subaru which has been far more successful in the WRC? If my knowledge of WRC is obviously poor (which I freely admit to), please educate me!
Need some clarification?

Why were the old cars driven on old tyres (tyre technology from that era) and brakes. Surely Tyres alone have a bit impact ont he performance of the car....?

so not really a fair test now.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 07:06 AM
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I reckon its Alan McNish .....................
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by imi
Need some clarification?

Why were the old cars driven on old tyres (tyre technology from that era) and brakes. Surely Tyres alone have a bit impact ont he performance of the car....?

so not really a fair test now.
The whole point of the test was to test the old with the new. ie use the same technology of that era with what is currently available.

Only have to wait a few decades before we can experience F1 performance on the roads!! If the green loby don't get their way that is.....

I have to say though that was one of Top Gears best episodes though. Thorougly enjoyed it. That buzzing in the Ferrari, (Italian build quality!!) must have drove Clarkson absolutely mad, so much so he taped the wipers to the windscreen, muppet!
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 09:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Fat Boy
PMSL, perhaps you mean Perry McCarthy (as mentioned above)???
LMGDAO - please bear in mind was two bottles in after a fat roast when I posted that
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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I'd heard that the 'old' black suited stig was this perry mcarthy chap, and the the current one was Damon Hill. Someone here at work must been watching more closely that me as he said this morning that the stig usually wears OMP gloves, but on the F1 car was wearing Alpinestars and also had a different crash helmet.

I'd heard the old stig was 'removed' after he damaged a rather expensive sportscar they had been allowed to drive for one episode.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 12:17 PM
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Cant believe some of you guys missed the point so much !!! There is no point getting a 20 yr old car then upgrading it is there ? It is meant to show how far cars have come on in 20 years - so they need to have them as close to original as possible including tyres etc. And as for using a Scooby !!!!!!!! When do u think they started rallying them ? 1990's....
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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Wonder how well Kovalainen would do against Scumacher in an F1 car though?

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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Wonder how well Kovalainen would do against Scumacher in an F1 car though?

Les
In an F1 car or in an identical ferrari??

I think we'll find out sooner rather than later as he is the new flavour of the month with the F1 team bosses.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 01:31 PM
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Thought the GT40 was the most impressive. It's not like Nobles are slow on track is it?
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by ARRON BIRD
OK OK I thought I could keep it quiet but you got me.........oh no they only use me when they want a 4WD car to go quick!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have just watched a nice video of a MR320 whooping the WR1 around that track, do you want a copy?
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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My thoughts are on it being tiff, he has been let lose with f1 cars before, he drove in lemans, he works mainly for prodrive as a demo/instructor driver (didn't know that till a week ago) so has to be said he can drive more or less anything out there. Stig is to small to be damon hill, maybe jonny h. In fact scratch that it wont be tiff he works one fith gear on 5. Thats my idea out the window lmao.

i feel a lets camp out at the track situation comming on!!

its gonna be a driver with experiance in multiple types if cars, so yur guess is as good as mine!

if anyone does find out post it up as soon as lol
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 02:50 PM
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They should have used an S4 to compare against the old Quattro, rather than the Evo 8 - although it would have been interesting to see how McRae's championship car from 95 compared against a new STI PPP.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 03:51 PM
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I thought putting the Evo against the Audi was a bit off, suspension and tyres have improved greatly in the last 20 years, not to mention brakes.

Did like the Evo v Bob run though, all I can say is Petter better watch his back, his brother certainly can drive. Would make for an intresting WRC
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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http://www.karting.co.uk/Notice/Mess...gID=0000165770
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 05:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Edcase
LMGDAO - please bear in mind was two bottles in after a fat roast when I posted that


Quality! Well done fella - I haven't laughed so much for ages. The thought of that genteel old man (who's probably been dead for 20 years or so now) nailing cars round the test track just did it for me.

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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 05:19 PM
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Its unlikely to be a 'successful' driver in the accepted sense; remember that it was Peregrine McCarthy before and he spent over 15 years not quite making it.

My Uncles a professional racing driver and he has a Simpson Super Bandit; then again so do I and I never post during Top Gear.....

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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 05:23 PM
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The person who drove the Renault F1 car was Allan Mcnish! LOL


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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 06:59 PM
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stig = TIFF
hes moonlighting from 5th gear, thats why his identity is so secret.....it was a good show all round, even had mrs Rex watching this week, we all moan about squeeks and rattles from subaru but, how about spending all that money on the ferrari and suffering the rattly wipers
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 07:39 PM
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yeah tiff i reckon,got to be, to get the car drifting as he does on some of the cars hes driven on there. they dont seem to mind tiff driving their cars.
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 07:40 PM
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I shouldn't say but the stig is moses
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 07:45 PM
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I thought putting the Evo against the Audi was a bit off, suspension and tyres have improved greatly in the last 20 years, not to mention brakes
Err - wasn't that kind of the point of the feature?

Stig isn't necessarily a "never quite made it", could easily be an ex top driver like Damon - I won't call him a "has been", in case it offends someone!
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 09:04 PM
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Here is Stig before he got his job on TopGear
http://www.bbc.co.uk/derby/features/...gallery2.shtml
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Old Dec 20, 2004 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Simon C
I thought putting the Evo against the Audi was a bit off, suspension and tyres have improved greatly in the last 20 years, not to mention brakes.

Did like the Evo v Bob run though, all I can say is Petter better watch his back, his brother certainly can drive. Would make for an intresting WRC
For god's sake, Simon! That was the point!!

No offence, like.
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