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Old 07 December 2004, 01:55 AM
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Been trawling the net a little and found a few figures for the following cars on a quarter drag strip which should be of some interest.

Quarter mile times approx:-

Merc AMG 476bhp = 13 secs maybe slightly less
Merc AMG 354bhp = 14 - 14.5 secs
Evo 7 FQ300 = 13 secs
S2000 = 14.4 secs
Type R = 15 secs maybe into the high 14's (driven well)

Hardly a million miles away when comparing the lower brake AMG with the type R now is it guys? less than a second I believe it is even closer on a backroad somewhere punching it mid gear due to the weights involved.

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Originally Posted by scrappydoo
Been trawling the net a little and found a few figures for the following cars on a quarter drag strip which should be of some interest.

Quarter mile times approx:-

Merc AMG 476bhp = 13 secs maybe slightly less
Merc AMG 354bhp = 14 - 14.5 secs
Evo 7 FQ300 = 13 secs
S2000 = 14.4 secs
Type R = 15 secs maybe into the high 14's (driven well)

Hardly a million miles away when comparing the lower brake AMG with the type R now is it guys? less than a second I believe it is even closer on a backroad somewhere punching it mid gear due to the weights involved.


Scrappy:

The 476 BHP version does the 1/4 in about 12.4.
Cant find figures for the 354 bhp, but it hits 100 in 13.
A couple of seconds is an eternity in the 1/4s at this level.
Old 07 December 2004, 08:38 AM
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I was less than a second behind an R1 at Crail on several goes. Doesn't mean I would pass one on a straight, smooth road. A second is indeed a good distance when you are travelling at 100-130 mph as you cross the quarter line!
Old 07 December 2004, 11:37 AM
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New shape E55 does 0-100 in 10.2 sec, old shape does it in 13 sec, C32 does it in 10.8 sec.


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Old 07 December 2004, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Bubba po
Scrappydoo: "All I said was, I beat an E55 AMG in my civic"

class.
Old 07 December 2004, 02:39 PM
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Santa Pod hosted the Japfeast earlier this year where a Merc AMG and an Ariel Atom gatecrashed the party. The AMG 1/4 mile'd in 11.8 secs!!! Ariel Atom did it in 12.4 secs before breaking its drive shaft!
Old 07 December 2004, 02:58 PM
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PMSL @ this thread

Has anyone asked how many engines V-Tec engines Honda have had blow up?



I think it's none is it not
Old 07 December 2004, 04:11 PM
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This thread is completely unproductive.

Scrappydoo, why is it everytime someone provides real facts that show your Type-R performance claims have the credibility of used toilet tissue do you need to bring up unlikely situations that go to the Type-R's favour, but in fact work for BOTH cars?

Please don't even answer that.
Old 07 December 2004, 04:15 PM
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Its more of a 'Mines bigger than yours' thread.
Fantastic!
Old 07 December 2004, 04:46 PM
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I had a bit of a play with some sort of AMG the other day. I had passed it on a dual carriage way when he pulled out behind me. We both had to over take a big artic lorry going up a hill. I'm sure he expected to fly past me at the earliest opportunity but I am pleased to report I left him for dead.
Not bad for an RB5 although in his defence how was he to know that I had 399 bhp and 382 ft/lbs available
Old 07 December 2004, 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by dazdavies
I had a bit of a play with some sort of AMG the other day. I had passed it on a dual carriage way when he pulled out behind me. We both had to over take a big artic lorry going up a hill. I'm sure he expected to fly past me at the earliest opportunity but I am pleased to report I left him for dead.
Not bad for an RB5 although in his defence how was he to know that I had 399 bhp and 382 ft/lbs available
This post is a perfect example of someone leading us all into a false sense of security by pretending to contribute to the discussion in an urbane and relevant manner then suddenly brandishing his engorged **** in our faces.




Old 07 December 2004, 06:40 PM
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Bubba Bubbu Bubba!

The RB5 is not standard by a long chalk.

Spec as follows and rolling road printout underneath enjoy!!!

STI 9 Tuftrided, Cross drilled Crank:
JE Forged Pistons (0.5mm oversize)
Carillo Rods
ARP Rod bolts
Heads Polished flowed and ported
Cylinder block Over bored
TSL Uprated Oil Pump with oil pressure release valve,
Uprated Clutch release bearing
TSL Equal length tubular header pipe
Group A Down Pipe (3 inch)
TSL decat centre section
TSL Firestorm back box.
Turbo smart BOV
1.2mm Metal Head gaskets
WRC lead copper bearings
WRC head Bolts
Ecutek Remap (1.5 bar Boost)
IHI hybrid roller bearing Turbo.
APS Cold Air Induction kit
Walbro Competition fuel pump
Samco Hoses ( turbo, coolant, ancillary and induction)
Cross drilled and grooved brake discs.
Ferrodo Racing DS2500 brake pads


Transmission
STI 8, 6 speed gearbox conversion
Roger Clark Motorsport Lightweight Flywheel (4.5 kg compared to 11.5 kg for standard)
AP Racing Clutch

http://www.proactive-it.co.uk/scoob/dyno031204.htm
More pics available on request

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Old 07 December 2004, 07:15 PM
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Originally Posted by scrappydoo
Been trawling the net a little and found a few figures for the following cars on a quarter drag strip which should be of some interest.

Quarter mile times approx:-

Merc AMG 476bhp = 13 secs maybe slightly less
Merc AMG 354bhp = 14 - 14.5 secs
Evo 7 FQ300 = 13 secs
S2000 = 14.4 secs
Type R = 15 secs maybe into the high 14's (driven well)

Hardly a million miles away when comparing the lower brake AMG with the type R now is it guys? less than a second I believe it is even closer on a backroad somewhere punching it mid gear due to the weights involved.
TypeR matching AMG mid range?
The computer says.....NO...

TypeR faster than AMG?
The computer says....NO.....*COUGH*
Old 07 December 2004, 07:52 PM
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The AMG figures are way out anyway, as I said earlier, see

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Old 07 December 2004, 08:40 PM
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[QUOTE=dazdavies]Bubba Bubbu Bubba!

The RB5 is not standard by a long chalk.

Spec as follows and rolling road printout underneath enjoy!!!

STI 9 Tuftrided, Cross drilled Crank:
JE Forged Pistons (0.5mm oversize)
Carillo Rods
ARP Rod bolts
Heads Polished flowed and ported
Cylinder block Over bored
TSL Uprated Oil Pump with oil pressure release valve,
Uprated Clutch release bearing
TSL Equal length tubular header pipe
Group A Down Pipe (3 inch)
TSL decat centre section
TSL Firestorm back box.
Turbo smart BOV
1.2mm Metal Head gaskets
WRC lead copper bearings
WRC head Bolts
Ecutek Remap (1.5 bar Boost)
IHI hybrid roller bearing Turbo.
APS Cold Air Induction kit
Walbro Competition fuel pump
Samco Hoses ( turbo, coolant, ancillary and induction)
Cross drilled and grooved brake discs.
Ferrodo Racing DS2500 brake pads


Transmission
STI 8, 6 speed gearbox conversion
Roger Clark Motorsport Lightweight Flywheel (4.5 kg compared to 11.5 kg for standard)
AP Racing Clutch




Mate your driving a plane, has it got a big wing on the back to keep it on the ground. nice
Old 07 December 2004, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dazdavies
Bubba Bubbu Bubba!

My **** is not standard by a long chalk.

Spec as follows ... enjoy!!!

Enlarged, polished glans with uprated crown and banjo;
W.E. extra capacity ********* with TSL free-flow epididymi (0.5mm oversize)
Enhanced tissue vascularisation and shaft sensitisation.
Deepened and depilated scrotal sac wrinkles for enhanced cooling
Jap's eye bored out, polished, flowed and ported
Firestorm Prostate and Cowper's glands

Group N Urethra (7mm)
TSL flared foreskin with enough stretch to fit 24 old half-crowns under without dropping any
TSL decat Vas deferens
Turbo smart fire resistant merkin

Miss!!! He's doing it again!!




(Joke)
Old 07 December 2004, 09:06 PM
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Actually mate!

The foreskin has been lightened and balanced to reduce inertia!!! LMAO


Quite amusing non the less :d
Old 07 December 2004, 09:11 PM
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He's a carborg, half man, half car, sent back from the future...
Old 08 December 2004, 12:23 AM
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Originally Posted by alwong
I agree the noble is alot faster than the STI. But I didn't send a video of a STI keeping up with a noble??
Why is it that everytime someone comes up with some facts about the Civic you always STI this and STI that???

I'm not on scrappy's bandwagon, but I just find it abit funny when you compare cars that belong in totally different leagues to each other. I like the STI and I don't doubt its performance but it costs £10k more, with an extra 65bhp on top of the Civic, its hardly a fair comparision is it?

How about comparing a standard Civic to a similarly powered WRX? Or a Jackson Racing Supercharged Civic against an STI? Now that would be a better comparision.
Old 08 December 2004, 12:56 AM
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how about compairing a lightly modded civic with an AMG merc...oops
Old 08 December 2004, 01:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Midmotorsteve
how about compairing a lightly modded civic with an AMG merc...oops
nope I'm not the one saying a CTR can beat an AMG

edit: or an STI
Old 08 December 2004, 03:38 AM
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The CTR can beat an AMG as it is more aerodynamic (the van like shape scares the **** outta of air it pushes against) hence less drag. Also the CTR is lighter as it uses cheaper plastics plus the driver is more streamlined due to the burberry cap.
Old 08 December 2004, 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Midmotorsteve
how about compairing a lightly modded civic with an AMG merc...oops

You're straying perilously close to being on topic there, mate.
Old 08 December 2004, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by mega_stream
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Has anyone asked how many engines V-Tec engines Honda have had blow up?



I think it's none is it not
Well, counting for my parents who have a CTR as a run about who are just about to have their 3rd engine in 27,000 miles......

I hate driving it - give me a turbo any day
Old 08 December 2004, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by imi
The CTR can beat an AMG as it is more aerodynamic (the van like shape scares the **** outta of air it pushes against) hence less drag. Also the CTR is lighter as it uses cheaper plastics plus the driver is more streamlined due to the burberry cap.
LMAO
Old 08 December 2004, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by imi
uses cheaper plastics plus the driver is more streamlined due to the burberry cap.
I think you'll fine there's more chavs driving scoobies these days mon amigo. You can get an old scoob for less than 5k. A 3yr old CTR will cost 9-12k depending on mileage. I think we all know what the chavs will gravitate to even with insurance taken into account !

I'm willing to send you some custard for your humble pie
Old 08 December 2004, 12:15 PM
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lol haven't you seen the amount of chavs in imprezas LMAO!!!1

They say the STI is the rich chav's chariot of choice if you didn't know.

I reckon they can cost from £3000 up - their almost as bad as Corsa's if you wanna play that way
Old 08 December 2004, 12:24 PM
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Hey hey now,

I dont remember saying that Chavs dont drive Subaru's...stop making your own assumptions

I used to own a Honda Prelude 2.2Vti which was a proper sports coupe not some crappy tin plastic breadvan with no steering feel. (althought it does have a lovely gearbox and engine - what a waste)
Old 08 December 2004, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dai-Tec
Why is it that everytime someone comes up with some facts about the Civic you always STI this and STI that???

I'm not on scrappy's bandwagon, but I just find it abit funny when you compare cars that belong in totally different leagues to each other. I like the STI and I don't doubt its performance but it costs £10k more, with an extra 65bhp on top of the Civic, its hardly a fair comparision is it?

How about comparing a standard Civic to a similarly powered WRX? Or a Jackson Racing Supercharged Civic against an STI? Now that would be a better comparision.
Fair point I could'nt be arsed replying to Alwongs comment as he obviously owns an STi and his last comment made bugger all sense......

I have had 4 laps against a new style WRX at Knockhill - there was nothing in it and if anything I was pulling away after cornering at higher speeds. Somebody told me afterwards that it had the PP pack so either that was bum info ( more likely) or the guy couldn't drive chickens out of a midden with a stick . Grovit of SN ( see pg. 5 of this thread), now a Scooby owner was my passenger at the time so can vouch for my story.

On another matter, the CTR's brakes are awesome !! I have spoken to a lot of WRX & Sti owners who complain that there brakes go to rat-**** after 5 plus circuit laps. The CTR's are solid after a good few laps with bugger all fade. I recall the CTR being put against a 911 on a braking test and marginally outbreaking it. I tried to find info on it on Google but it was an old episode. In know the thread orginally about straight line speed on the Queens highway but what hey. I don't tell lies or slate anyone in the process so I'm entitled to my opinions.

Cheers

Cal

Pelters disclaimer :- I don't claim the CTR is faster than an STi or an AMG
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The Standard Brakes on the CTR are very impressive. I remember toying with a CTR in my Lude and that damn breadvan kept overbraking me in the corners, a few corners later my standard crappy brakes were fading away while this chum kept on braking late.


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