fallwood

Its just 1 of the cats thats missing and yes they mot'd it for 12 months , I asked if it would pass with one of the cats missing and they said "well it just has done heres the emissions sheet" . Is it possible for the car to pass with 1 cat missing or are they feeding me another load of crap. In answer to wakeboardar , I was pleased cos it was the first time ive been able to drive the car properly , no i didnt get any cash back but hopefully ill be getting a good deal on an induction kit and a few other bits n pieces. The books are all stamped and ive got all the official certificates etc. I also got a very good trade in for my ITR so looking at it now I think it balances out quite evenly. Still need info as to if the car goes into limp mode when the cel comes on, if so this will be very annoying if i have to get it reset all the time. Will look in to getting a cel fix , has anyone got one spare i could buy.

chris's scooby

I'd have it re MOT'd to be on the safe side.

fallwood

Im taking it to my tuning guy at kershaws near york tomorrow, he's gonna run it up and give it a full checkout so Ill report back with the findings. Pete at kershaws is a god in my opinion and has always found the slightest discrepancy in any car ive bought in the past.

yoza

My 01WRX came from Well Lane, the guy told me it was fast, he lied.

He also told me it had an alarm, he lied.

He did tell me it was purchased from Belgium, to which I replied, " why ?"
He shrugged and said, " Dunno, just was."

I thought, " Belgium, so what..."

Thought nothing of it until I entered my local friendly Subaru garage for a warrenty fix.

" Registration please sir..."

" BLAH, BLAH 51 BLAH,BLAH,BLAH.."

Types into his keyboard...

" Oh, thats an import, we cant replace your 02 censor."

" Why not ? "

" Because you have leprosy you scabby twot, now get out of my shop."

But if I had have bought it from them as a UK spec car, and payed £2200 more than I did. I would have got my 02 censor fitted for free.

I would have probably gained 40 hard driven miles, and a couple of door dints too.......

**** em....

16vmarc

The PPP has a cat removed so i wouldnt be worried about that...

craigdmcd

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 16vmarc

The PPP has a cat removed so i wouldnt be worried about that...

And if I'm not mistaken, a high performance cat put back in it's place, also it's not uncommon for garages to use a "mule" car for the emissions inspection, get it re-checked to be on the safe side
Craig

fallwood

Surely they wouldnt be so stupid as to try that, im lacking knowledge of this particular car not lacking a brain. Imagine how much trouble they would be in if they had produced false emmisions readings to pass a car they were selling. They are a well known garage that has been around for a long time not some backstreet bodgit and scarper setup, every garage will have had something bad said about them at some time, i cant beleive theyd still be in business after 35 yrs if they were that dodgy. I told the salesman that i would be getting it checked out while its still under their 3 month warranty and he didnt bat an eyelid and calmly stated that the car was 100% fine and it would pass any checks i cared to have done. Anyone else had a bad experience from them, ive been using them for years without a problem (fingers crossed).

Daz34

Only on the STI. Standard cat downpipe is left in place.

kbsub

there are far to many ifs an buts with this car , i would go back an ask for a refund , why do you think he gave you a good part ex allowance ??there are to many things that just arnt quite right with the car or the deal , for future peace of mind GET A REFUND

Diesel

MOT it elsewhere and if it fails you have them by the very bollox they are spouting to you!!!

They stiffed me once over a train ticket they promised to pay for (took a part ex to them as opposed to waiting for their travelling buyer) but never did despite calls and letters - still annoyed even though it was only £40 and 8yrs ago!!!!
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speedking

So just to turn the argument around, you are saying you would be happy to pay £1k more for exactly the same car if it was originally UK sourced What do you think you get for that money?

Apple

Nope - I had PPP fitted to my Belgian bugeye by a UK dealer - it seems the powers that be had realised there's market forces out there

Exactly same as UK PPP version except no Prodrive certificate but I've got an official invoice saying it's fitted

As for cats on PPP - WRX loses centre one (decatted), STi has centre cat replaced with sports / hi-flow version...

Apple

BrynO

Speedking - I am not saying what is right or wrong here - but it is a fact of market forces that EU sourced cars DO command a lower price at re-sale. When I come to sell mine I will anticipate selling it for less than a UK supplied car, in just the same way as the guy I bought it from sold it to me for less! The fact that it is not UK sourced makes no difference to me, that's why I bought it! No I certainly would not be happy to pay more for a UK - but there are plenty out there who would and do pay a premium.

craigdmcd

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A MOT is only valid for the day it was issued, and how it was on the day of test, every testers opinion can vary with only the headlight aim, brake force and emissions being subject to tests by machine, but by all accounts, get it retested and CAB might be very interested
Craig

p1doc

so they sold you a decatted car with no cel fix/remap by the sound of it no mot and it is a parallel import which they never told you and they offer you an induction kit which requires a remap for it to work safely-i would be raging
take it to an indepedent subaru specialist eg tsl,scoobyclinic and get it checked now or you will be stuck with a lemon
from the above i would not touch well lane ever
martin

kbsub

GET A REFUND NOW !!

fallwood

I am now more confused than ever. I'm just about to set off to get it all checked so I have printed all the info youve supplied me with to take with me. If he finds the slightest thing wrong with it im gonna throw it straight back at them and ask for my money back. If it all checks out and seems to be ok do you still think I should refuse the car as it will cause me a lot of hassle to be without a car. At the end of the day i will be happy if its ok and just put it down as another learning experience, I let my guard drop a bit as it was coming from what I thought was a reputable dealer , lesson learned never drop your guard .

Ajax

Fallwood: I feel I most also say a few good words about WELL LANE Batley

http://www.dealer.autotrader.co.uk/_welllane.htm

I have nothing but praise for the fine service that I received from this garage, the owner is a Mr Howie I found honest and straightforward, given the chance I am sure he would rectify any reasonable complaint once made to him and not here on Scoobynet.

I travelled from Oxford to Batley to pick up my car and made a good saving, I am not in any way related or have business interest with them.

Of course I have a Dutch parallel import; it was made in Japan just like all the rest.

Difference is I was not ripped off.

ONE HAPPY WELL LANE CUSTOMER!

Ajax, Paul

SPEN555

PMSL @ Yoza

I remember going to the Subaru dealers for some touch up paint. I gave him the paint code of 74F (Euro spec sonic blue) and the confusion on his face when he could not find it lol! So I pointed to the P1 in the showroom and asked for that colour. I had to give my full chassis details just for a touch up pen FFS!

Sorted now though, bought a JDM model and so now I know they won't touch it all. So **** em! and **** IM! there loss not mine.

Ajax

Moderators: I note with interest how this thread has been left to continue.
It seems to revolve around, running down Parallel Imports and Well Lane.

I can’t see the issue.

Parallel imports are made in Japan the same as UK ones, It’s the same car
Well Lane is an honest dealer IMHO.!


Is it right that this public board should publish this, when others of a similar nature have been locked?



Ajax, Paul

p1doc

it all seems quite clear from the originator of the thread having bought a car and finding it is not what it seems with him asking advice-seems fair enough to me
martin

fallwood

Well I just got back from kershaws and its good news. pete ran it up on the rollers and found the following.

Fueling, in his words was absolutely mint.
No detonation at all, he did a test on the rollers that should show it up and he said it was perfect.
Boost running at 18psi which is fine apparently.
Power curve was nice and smooth with no sign of problems.
Tested at 270 bhp on his rollers just 3 bhp different to well lanes, probably cos it was a cold damp day today and it was mild and dry when well lane did it.
Tested the emissions and in his words again "It would p**ss an mot ", so good news their as wel.
He then had a quick look over the rest of the car and said it looked like a realy good car and I should be very happy with it.
Told me not to be silly with the modifications as the engines are not particularly strong but it should run as it is for a long time without any problems.
He also said that he had seen a few cars that didnt need the cel fix but most did so get one fitted (rang well lane before I set off to tell them the light had come on again and they are fitting a cel fix next tuesday for me).
So after all the drama it seems that the car is a good un.
Im not in any way trying to put well lane down as ive always found them to be excellent, just a few too many alarm bells ringing after I bought the car. So its all turned out fine apart from the initial matter of a few details were omited when I bought it.
Off for a drive now ,wooooooosh!!!!

Ajax

Fallwood: pleased you are now happy now, It always pays to give the garage a chance to put things right.

I have no problems over the question you raised, just not so sure it was necessary to mention Well Lane in a derisory manner.

You stated, I Quote: that they lied to me, not a good start.

Did they really, or did you just not understand the difference between an import and a parallel import. And what UK specification was.

Their reputation comes form their good service, It seems you have a good car and service from WELL LANE, go out and enjoy!

Ajax, Paul

Azyman

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i got 2001 EU import and i have had the PPP fitted at my local main dealer they seem more then happy to service and repair and help out on anything they no it is a Import aswell strange how some seem to be funny with others

fallwood

At that particular moment in time what i wrote is what i felt, now that all my concerns have been disproved I take back any negative things I said about well lane (dont think I actually said anything negative just stated the facts). The trouble with these formus is that things can get a bit out of hand sometimes and when your reading follow up posts to your question you can get sucked into the negative vibe easily. Well lane have been excellent with everything ive asked them to do so far (reset the ecu and realign one of the headlights) and have not given me any grief at all . I still stand by what i said about not being told it was a euro import (yes i know the difference) but im wiling to put it down to a misunderstanding . You are of course right about giving a dealer the chance to put things right before going balistic, its just that i was badly done 8 years ago by a dealer (wont name them) and im a bit quick to get on the defense after that experience. 3 cheers for well lane for supplying me with a superb car (can i say good things about them) I will probably do my trade in with them when I get rid of it (2 yrs) as they do give good tradein prices.

Ajax

Fallwood: Well Said M8

Ajax, Paul

sparkykev

Just a thought, but do buyers of parallel imported Fords, vauxhalls, pugs etc have to endure the same stigma as scoob owners when it comes to dealers, selling and servicing?
I cant say i've ever seen an ad for a ford when 'parallel import' is mentioned.

fallwood

A customer of mine just traded in his pug 406 estate at the main dealer, he told them he'd bought it new from a car supermarket and that it was a euro import, apparently the dealer wasnt the slightest bit bothered and said it didnt make any difference to them. Is it just jap sportscars that get the bum deal when imported.

jasonius

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Recently sold my Renault clio 172 to the main dealer (no p/x as I bought another EU import-scoob!) It was an UK spec eu import which the dealer had no problem with. They gave me top book and said they have no probs with imported cars. It had however been serviced and the odd warranty job done by them!

I think it comes down to the publics fear of imported cars!


Their whichcraft, thats what they are!!!!!

Harry_Boy

The problem IMHO stems from IM's treating of parallel imports. They have clearly instructed dealers to treat EU-sourced cars differently from UK purchased vehicles.

Other manufacturers don't seem to give a monkeys where your car came from, provided that it's UK spec or equivalent. But IM just have to be awkward.

Some dealers openly flout IM's directives by happily servicing and even installing PPPs on EU-sourced cars. Shock horror, they will even take them as part exchanges. Which is something that IM certainly didn't want them to do a few years ago, when parallel imports first became popular.

Now that the Sterling/Euro exchange rate has shifted to make parallel imports less attractive, dealers are becoming more happy to take EU-sourced cars as a PX, as Subaru owners begin to buy more UK-sourced models again.

In any event, I hear that FHI are looking at taking over the UK import operation, and that IM's days as sole importer may well be numbered.