MITSUBISHI TAKES FQ TO NEW LEVEL
30 October 2004, 05:51 PM
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£47 k is just too much - imagine how much it would be worth in say 12 months - probably around £30k!
For £45kish you can get a 993 turbo like I did from a porsche main dealer - do get 1 year warranty and 0-100 mph in 8.8 seconds. Plus it holds its value so so much better.
And in real world conditions - is just as fast around the "twisties".
For £45kish you can get a 993 turbo like I did from a porsche main dealer - do get 1 year warranty and 0-100 mph in 8.8 seconds. Plus it holds its value so so much better.
And in real world conditions - is just as fast around the "twisties".
30 October 2004, 06:56 PM
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Is it me but whenever I see an Evo, I say, cool an Evo, what number is it,f*ck me its an extreme etc etc
The rest of the population apart from people like us who haunt BBs's like this think, blearrgh thats a horrible mini cab with spoliers or what has that *** done to his Proton, you spent 47 grand on what !!!
Sorry but 47 grand gets you into a lot of really nice cars, no doubting its ability but thats an Evo too far, I expect that kind of performance is bordering on physically uncomfortable anyway. Sorry but even I think its a waste of money and I am a complete car nut.
I suppose it depends whether you absolutely positively have to be the first away at the lights and really couldnt care whether women give you a second look, I mean come on, apart from the 'exceptions' on SN most women think rally replica drivers are self abusers of the highest order, the few straight TT and Boxster owners will get all the attention !
The rest of the population apart from people like us who haunt BBs's like this think, blearrgh thats a horrible mini cab with spoliers or what has that *** done to his Proton, you spent 47 grand on what !!!
Sorry but 47 grand gets you into a lot of really nice cars, no doubting its ability but thats an Evo too far, I expect that kind of performance is bordering on physically uncomfortable anyway. Sorry but even I think its a waste of money and I am a complete car nut.
I suppose it depends whether you absolutely positively have to be the first away at the lights and really couldnt care whether women give you a second look, I mean come on, apart from the 'exceptions' on SN most women think rally replica drivers are self abusers of the highest order, the few straight TT and Boxster owners will get all the attention !
30 October 2004, 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by misty
What an ill informed, tosser you must be! What's YOUR CAR putting out then? Also you appear to have two sets of power figures and no torque figures??? Please can you give me a list of bits for £3k I need to add to my Evo to bring it up to that spec??? and warranty it for 36kmiles/3 years?? £50k??? the price seems to going up with every post here!!!
If you have an opinion on a subject, then I suggest you fully aquaint yourself with the full facts! before gobbing off a complete load of bo**ocks
dave
If you have an opinion on a subject, then I suggest you fully aquaint yourself with the full facts! before gobbing off a complete load of bo**ocks
dave
My Evo? Currently in the process of being built to put out between 600 & 700bhp.
Or are you talking about my R33 GTR? Which puts out over 850bhp?
£46,995.00 to be precise if you are being picky - just over 400bhp & 355lb/ft of torque...
I never said I could bring the car up to that spec list for £3k if you go back and read what I actually put I said you can get the same sort of performance as the FQ400 for that sort of money & probably make a bit more torque if you were lucky!
Oh the warranty? Yeah because thats really worth it with Mitsubishi isnt it? -The money you save will more than compensate for what may go wrong over 3 years.
If you have nearly £50k to spunk on an Evo it wouldnt be too hard to find another £10k for a new M5, or a Mk1 GT3 Clubsport, or plently of other cars that are not a **** poor achievement over a standard FQ/MR for an absolute fortune.
If YOU have an opinion on a subject & try & **** on me, do a bit of research next time you clueless moron
The simple fact is its overpriced (vastly), underperforming (vastly) and as others have said will in reality be no quicker than an FQ320. Oh & it doesnt look any different anyway - so no one can tell either
Not to mention the eye watering depreciation it will suffer from....
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30 October 2004, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Bodgery
Never mind Impreza's, how about a TVR Tuscan or Tuscan S? (compare top speed, 0-100 and 0-150 - I think you'll find it has adequate performance, style and miles better sound)
You lot haven't got a clue!!! 47K for some jap crap. Give me a break. 35K is the limit, then you're into a different league in terms of quality, style, etc. Come on!!! Who on earth is going to spend 47K on a EVO, unless they're loaded and want it as a 3rd car!!
You lot haven't got a clue!!! 47K for some jap crap. Give me a break. 35K is the limit, then you're into a different league in terms of quality, style, etc. Come on!!! Who on earth is going to spend 47K on a EVO, unless they're loaded and want it as a 3rd car!!
LOL .......''you lot havent got a clue, fair enough, then you talk about 47K being in a different league for build quality etc and your chosen equivilent is a TVR
... Now dont get me wrong I love TVR's I must have done I owned one for 7 years, but I wouldnt wanna jump into one on a cold wet winters morning to nip down the shops.
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30 October 2004, 08:53 PM
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I have to admit that £47k is a lot of dough to spend on an Evo. If anyone is contemplating putting their name on the list, have a look at this first http://www.lancerregister.com/showth...threadid=58480 and with the £19,500 you saved buy a WRX as your workhorse car
30 October 2004, 09:39 PM
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£47k is a bit of a joke!! I wonder whats the additional parts are????? I reckon its probably cheaper to buy a brand new std evo and tune to 400 bhp....
For me it was cheaper to buy a Skyline R34 and i tuned it to 600bhp and the bill was no where near £40k.
I know what i would go for
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For me it was cheaper to buy a Skyline R34 and i tuned it to 600bhp and the bill was no where near £40k.
I know what i would go for
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31 October 2004, 08:12 AM
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I wonder whats the additional parts are?????
Base car for development was Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution VIII MR FQ-320. In conjunction with Rampage, Owen Developments and Flow Race Engines, the FQ-400 comprises:
Custom built Garrett GT Dual Ball bearing turbocharger
Owen Developments custom manufactured cast stainless steel exhaust manifold and exhaust elbow
Omega forged pistons
HKS forged con rods
HKS 680cc injectors
Zytec ITP116 high pressure fuel pump
HKS 1.6mm steel head gasket
Motec M800 OEM ECU
HKS iridium spark plugs
Jan Speed High Flow Sports Cat
Alcon competition derived 240mm high clamp mode, heavy duty clutch complete with Cera-metallic 6 paddle sprung centred drive plate
HKS High Strength Head and Big End Bolts
Alcon Mono6 Brake Kit incorporating Monobloc 6 pot road caliper with 343mm curved vein Disc on a Aluminium mounting bell assembly with Ferodo DS2500 brake pads
Ralliart Aero Mirrors
Carbon fibre front lip spoiler
Carbon fibre "Sharks Tooth" rear vortex generator
PIAA High Performance light and wiper upgrade
Gloss black Team Dynamics lightweight alloy wheels
Driver training course
The rest can be found here http://www.lancerregister.com/news_fq400.php
31 October 2004, 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by whiper
£47 k is just too much - imagine how much it would be worth in say 12 months - probably around £30k!
For £45kish you can get a 993 turbo like I did from a porsche main dealer - do get 1 year warranty and 0-100 mph in 8.8 seconds. Plus it holds its value so so much better.
And in real world conditions - is just as fast around the "twisties".
For £45kish you can get a 993 turbo like I did from a porsche main dealer - do get 1 year warranty and 0-100 mph in 8.8 seconds. Plus it holds its value so so much better.
And in real world conditions - is just as fast around the "twisties".
Test in ams 25/1996
Gewicht 1506 kg
0 - 80 km/h 2,8 s
0 - 100 km/h 3,8 s
0 - 120 km/h 5,1 s
0 - 160 km/h 8,5 s
0 - 180 km/h - s
0 - 200 km/h 13,5 s
400 m, stehender Start 12,0 s
1 km, stehender Start 21,8 s
Vmax 300 km/h
100 - 0 km/h (kalt) 36,4 m
100 - 0 km/h (warm) 35,4 m
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31 October 2004, 10:17 AM
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You absolute clown
My Evo? Currently in the process of being built to put out between 600 & 700bhp.
Or are you talking about my R33 GTR? Which puts out over 850bhp?
£46,995.00 to be precise if you are being picky - just over 400bhp & 355lb/ft of torque...
I never said I could bring the car up to that spec list for £3k if you go back and read what I actually put I said you can get the same sort of performance as the FQ400 for that sort of money & probably make a bit more torque if you were lucky!
Oh the warranty? Yeah because thats really worth it with Mitsubishi isnt it? -The money you save will more than compensate for what may go wrong over 3 years.
If you have nearly £50k to spunk on an Evo it wouldnt be too hard to find another £10k for a new M5, or a Mk1 GT3 Clubsport, or plently of other cars that are not a **** poor achievement over a standard FQ/MR for an absolute fortune.
If YOU have an opinion on a subject & try & **** on me, do a bit of research next time you clueless moron
The simple fact is its overpriced (vastly), underperforming (vastly) and as others have said will in reality be no quicker than an FQ320. Oh & it doesnt look any different anyway - so no one can tell either
Not to mention the eye watering depreciation it will suffer from....
My Evo? Currently in the process of being built to put out between 600 & 700bhp.
Or are you talking about my R33 GTR? Which puts out over 850bhp?
£46,995.00 to be precise if you are being picky - just over 400bhp & 355lb/ft of torque...
I never said I could bring the car up to that spec list for £3k if you go back and read what I actually put I said you can get the same sort of performance as the FQ400 for that sort of money & probably make a bit more torque if you were lucky!
Oh the warranty? Yeah because thats really worth it with Mitsubishi isnt it? -The money you save will more than compensate for what may go wrong over 3 years.
If you have nearly £50k to spunk on an Evo it wouldnt be too hard to find another £10k for a new M5, or a Mk1 GT3 Clubsport, or plently of other cars that are not a **** poor achievement over a standard FQ/MR for an absolute fortune.
If YOU have an opinion on a subject & try & **** on me, do a bit of research next time you clueless moron
The simple fact is its overpriced (vastly), underperforming (vastly) and as others have said will in reality be no quicker than an FQ320. Oh & it doesnt look any different anyway - so no one can tell either
Not to mention the eye watering depreciation it will suffer from....
YYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNN!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh yes and when my 1000bhp Impreza's on the road we'll have a little dice eh!
dave
31 October 2004, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by misty
YYYYYYYYYYYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWNNNNNN!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh yes and when my 1000bhp Impreza's on the road we'll have a little dice eh!
dave
Oh yes and when my 1000bhp Impreza's on the road we'll have a little dice eh!
dave
Awww come on, it was fun!
31 October 2004, 10:43 AM
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Dave and whiper, re 993TT, sounds very interesting. How does it go over a very bumpy B-road compared with an Evo? I know they go well in the twisties, I wonder about poorly surfaced undulating roads with yumps and compressions - 993 Carerra IMHO underperformed here and bottomed out easily, is the Turbo much better? Ignoring price, would you prefer 993 or 996 TT?
31 October 2004, 10:49 AM
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& there was me waiting for a tirade of misinformed abuse again
Awww come on, it was fun!
Awww come on, it was fun!
dave
31 October 2004, 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug
More to the point Danny .show me another road car which will do this for the money??? and i dont mean a street legal track car either.
Personally I think £47k for a misti is mad. If you want that kinda performance buy a TVR or similar. Or maybe a £34k Type25 which does 0-60 in under 10secs and 0-100 in under 10secs (ref autocar).
Haven't Misti gone bust yet? Their product placement is terrible.
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31 October 2004, 02:49 PM
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Misty - not hard to accept at all, everyone is entitled to thier opinion, even if it is a little odd
dave
31 October 2004, 02:54 PM
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Dare I suggest that a Type 25 vs FQ400 would be very similar on the road? Far wider power band with similar torque vs narrow power band and 50 BHP more?
31 October 2004, 03:29 PM
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Dare I suggest that a Type 25 vs FQ400 would be very similar on the road? Far wider power band with similar torque vs narrow power band and 50 BHP more?
dave
31 October 2004, 04:45 PM
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he he he this scoob vs evo stuff is gr8
but the Scoob is apparently a better ride (not so harsh) and of course the running costs are *slightly* lower on a Scoob.
I'd much prefer any MR Lancer over a UK Scoob, not because of looks or perfrormance purely because they are much rarer than the STi.
Flame away, but that is my opinion.
But give me the new JDM Spec C RA and things may be different
31 October 2004, 04:58 PM
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pound for pound the scoob is superior. When making comparisons its best to compare like for like in terms of price.
Misti could only dream of making, marketing and selling cars like Subaru do.
Whats quicker a £33/34k Subaru or a £33/34k Misti?
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Misti could only dream of making, marketing and selling cars like Subaru do.
Whats quicker a £33/34k Subaru or a £33/34k Misti?
Bob
31 October 2004, 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
Misti could only dream of making, marketing and selling cars like Subaru do.
31 October 2004, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by john banks
Dave and whiper, re 993TT, sounds very interesting. How does it go over a very bumpy B-road compared with an Evo? I know they go well in the twisties, I wonder about poorly surfaced undulating roads with yumps and compressions - 993 Carerra IMHO underperformed here and bottomed out easily, is the Turbo much better? Ignoring price, would you prefer 993 or 996 TT?
The 993TT has far more complaint suspension - still firm but nothing like the evo. Over bumps the evo suspension was so hard that it made it very difficult to drive fast. The porker more civilised too,slightly better fuel economy surprisingly and much much quicker.
Had a 2 day test drive of a new 997 - not impressed - it did have a auto box though - but had a lot of tyre noise - looked too soft and wasnt that quick - it was a carrera 2 with 320 bhp - Ill still keep with my 993 for the time being.
31 October 2004, 06:32 PM
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I think MItsi have made a massive mistake. If they had painted it a sickly light blue colour they would have had most of the people on here drawling and bowing in its presence.
BOB's ......TVR's are great cars, as i said before I had one for 7 years and loved every minute of it. Not very good for taking your mates down the pub and not very reliable (on the whole) ....
As I said before in the league ABOVE a ppp STi there isnt much choice below a CSL or RS6. The EVO plugs that gap, IMHO. Yeah 47K is a lot of money but what else is there in the 4 seater performance market with higher grin factor and performance than the scoob without paying £60K??? answer me that???
BOB's ......TVR's are great cars, as i said before I had one for 7 years and loved every minute of it. Not very good for taking your mates down the pub and not very reliable (on the whole) ....
As I said before in the league ABOVE a ppp STi there isnt much choice below a CSL or RS6. The EVO plugs that gap, IMHO. Yeah 47K is a lot of money but what else is there in the 4 seater performance market with higher grin factor and performance than the scoob without paying £60K??? answer me that???
31 October 2004, 06:38 PM
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Thanks. Sounds like you are saying the E7 was a bit too stiff not just for comfort but also for performance down a bumpy road? How do you think a P1 would go over the rough road compared with the 993TT? In terms of body control and absorbency? My present setup is based on the P1 setup with improvements which I still think is the best setup I've felt on a Scooby for my tastes for a B-road, compliance and composure are fantastic, it is easy on the tyres and they always seem to be in contact with the tarmac. Does the 993TT do this or is it too biased towards comfort to control the body properly? Your help is most appreciated.