WR1 vs PPP'd STI03 vs MY02STI = THE FINAL VERDICT
02 September 2004, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by hawkeye
ahhhh ive just re read your post and realise that now Mr Turkey sir you have a WR1 am I right..... well come on down to grand old Yorkshire cos me and Dazza enjoy a good old turkey shoot 
TBH once she's run in Yorkshire is one of the places I'd like to have a blast (probably on my way up to Scotland
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02 September 2004, 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by hawkeye
It's just these damm Prodrive figures I have a problem with.. they don't seem to stack up in the real world whenever I get to meet a WR1 which to date has been twice.... well three but we wont talk about my chaning from 2nd to 6th very spiritedly.....
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I remember the impact it had on me the first time I read a car review (Performance Car ?) of a 'standard' vehicle that did 0-100 < 10 seconds. It was a 400bhp Dage 935 Porsche and I WANTED ONE !!! Beautiful drop nose variant of the 911 ..... anyone else remember it ?
02 September 2004, 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Gangsta Smurf
Guy on here called Brian the Snail who has tested his WR1 totally to prove the prodive figures. Which he did!!
Maybe everyone come along to the WR1 rolling road shoot out and have a look
its over here folks.
just find that link..
02 September 2004, 05:34 PM
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02 September 2004, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by hawkeye
Ditto m8 I dont have anything against the WR1 as a car, infact the more I see them in the flesh the more I like the colour 
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02 September 2004, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Gangsta Smurf
Always the way mate ... just wish I could have got mine on track at Castle Coombe - would have shown all what the damn thing can really do!! 
Showed an xkr driver what they can do the other day when rolling up slip road onto motorway.He in front booted,I behind and booted it.I joined motorway first.
Enuff said,mid range grunt awesome.
Ask mr xklater!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Its good enuff for me.
02 September 2004, 09:33 PM
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there is a run what ya brung day at elvington airfield this sunday that would settle it....
£40 and a private runway with timing equipment all day long
£40 and a private runway with timing equipment all day long
02 September 2004, 09:48 PM
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I'd say a lot of it is to do with the driver rather than the car. I think most of us know that 10, 20 or 30 bhp isn't going to be hugely faster.
The main think i found when driving the WR1 compared with an STi and an STi PPP is that the power delivery seemed smoother in the WR1.
The main think i found when driving the WR1 compared with an STi and an STi PPP is that the power delivery seemed smoother in the WR1.
02 September 2004, 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by barrybudden
Mabe you should have tried the twisties?
I should add that my Scoob does have PFF7s and Prodrive springs like the WR1, but also Whiteline ARB, droplinks and antilift kit unlike WR1.
However, I must admit that it is much easier to get the back end out on demand in a WR1.
02 September 2004, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemmy
...When we later stopped for a chat I found out that the WR1 had grounded out on some of the bumps, whereas my "lowly" 02 STi had been OK.
No doubt I've got that to look forward to 
I've already managed to put a nick in a front alloy thanks to a pothole and get a screw in a rear tyre.....and still on <1000 miles
expensive hobby this
02 September 2004, 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by chris's scooby
What did u do about the tyre in the end?
went for the repair job (got an airfield based driver training day coming up to put it through its paces!)
03 September 2004, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Lemmy
Well, I discovered that on bumpy roads a WR1 cannot keep up with my MY02 STi. On the recent SIDC Isle of Man trip a WR1 was following me on the A36 and I noticed after a while that he had started to drop back, which surprised me since I am not the most confident driver on the twisties and having just arrived on the island was not driving flat out. When we later stopped for a chat I found out that the WR1 had grounded out on some of the bumps, whereas my "lowly" 02 STi had been OK. I guess the speeds were between 60 and 90 mph in general.
I should add that my Scoob does have PFF7s and Prodrive springs like the WR1, but also Whiteline ARB, droplinks and antilift kit unlike WR1.
However, I must admit that it is much easier to get the back end out on demand in a WR1.
I should add that my Scoob does have PFF7s and Prodrive springs like the WR1, but also Whiteline ARB, droplinks and antilift kit unlike WR1.
However, I must admit that it is much easier to get the back end out on demand in a WR1.
I fairly recently went for run with a few on here on the Evo pass in North Wales, I was amazed at how sure footed the car was! She never put a foot wrong and I wasn't exactly taking it easy and the road, if you can call it a road, isn't the smoothest I've driven on
Oh I had 3 passengers as well.Re: this thread, a bit of fun or as interesting as it maybe
, isn't this WR1 witch hunt getting a bit boring? 'THE FINNAL VERDICT' lol you should go become bum chums with Clarkson or write for a Tabloid, sensationalizing or what
I've had a go at a Evo Mr340 from a standing start (up quite an incline) upto and including 4th and 5th gear and in the early gears I was having to change a little early to avoid going into the back of him and in the later gears there was absolutely nothing in it... So? I still don't believe I'm quicker then the 340. I wouldn't care too much if I was. I bought this Scoob coz I wanted this specific package.
I personally don't think i could achieve Prodrives stats but I don't think I'll be far off.
Unlike some on here I do enjoy reading Vs's threads and I know this thread wasn't meant to create too much animosity
so non taken and I hope I haven't caused any
03 September 2004, 01:59 PM
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Love the thread. I personally don't like the way this thread has gone. May I get us back on track. I believe the WR1 to be an overly hyped, barely improved car, with exagerated performance figures driven by sensitive owners. Dazza/Hawkeye have demonstrated at long last what we all knew - you paid 3-5K more for a sack of (light green) cack, which will not hold it's value any more than any other recent scoob, esp. when the MY05 model comes out with similar spec. Discuss.
03 September 2004, 02:12 PM
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Lol gubbins mate you take the biscuit!!
Ever driven a WR1 on your own with nobody there saying oh don't rev it like that or drive my car like that? Doubt it!!
STI ppp is around 27k - wr1 is 30k ... so what do you get ...
Adjustable Centre Diff
PFF7 Wheels
Prodrive Suspension
Prodrive uprated handling (bump steer etc)
Additionally boosted PPP above and beyond the standard PPP
Fogs
Front Grill Mesh and Prodrive Exhaust with Sports Cat
etc etc
Think that comes to slightly more than 3k extra mate!!
Would sincerely love to meet you on a track or airfield in whatever scoob you drive - just to shut you up!!
Ever driven a WR1 on your own with nobody there saying oh don't rev it like that or drive my car like that? Doubt it!!
STI ppp is around 27k - wr1 is 30k ... so what do you get ...
Adjustable Centre Diff
PFF7 Wheels
Prodrive Suspension
Prodrive uprated handling (bump steer etc)
Additionally boosted PPP above and beyond the standard PPP
Fogs
Front Grill Mesh and Prodrive Exhaust with Sports Cat
etc etc
Think that comes to slightly more than 3k extra mate!!
Would sincerely love to meet you on a track or airfield in whatever scoob you drive - just to shut you up!!
03 September 2004, 02:22 PM
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can I also add that if I wasn't a WR1 owner I would not have got an invite to ....
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357136
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=357136
03 September 2004, 02:24 PM
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I paid 3K less than you last year for new dealer supplied STI Type UK with:
(STI ppp LIST PRICE is around 27k - who pays that??? Oh, sorry, WR1 owners do!)
PPP (including exhaust and sports cat!! LOL!);
18" Titanium alloys;
Prodrive springs/bump stops;
Mats;
STI sill covers;
Tissue paper dispenser.
So mate, your differences are marginal, and will be non-existent come 3 months time when MY05 has the same kit. As I said, you've been rogered good and proper.
(STI ppp LIST PRICE is around 27k - who pays that??? Oh, sorry, WR1 owners do!)
PPP (including exhaust and sports cat!! LOL!);
18" Titanium alloys;
Prodrive springs/bump stops;
Mats;
STI sill covers;
Tissue paper dispenser.
So mate, your differences are marginal, and will be non-existent come 3 months time when MY05 has the same kit. As I said, you've been rogered good and proper.
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03 September 2004, 02:30 PM
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lol ... I can smell something on your post gubbins!!!
So what UK supplied MY05 is going to come with the same kit ... apart from the Jap Import version??? Please enlighten me!!!
Go and put your name down for the Brands Hatch track day in the southern section mate!!! Be good to have some fodder!
So what UK supplied MY05 is going to come with the same kit ... apart from the Jap Import version??? Please enlighten me!!!
Go and put your name down for the Brands Hatch track day in the southern section mate!!! Be good to have some fodder!
03 September 2004, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Gangsta Smurf
lol ... I can smell something on your post gubbins!!!
So what UK supplied MY05 is going to come with the same kit ... apart from the Jap Import version??? Please enlighten me!!!
Go and put your name down for the Brands Hatch track day in the southern section mate!!! Be good to have some fodder!
So what UK supplied MY05 is going to come with the same kit ... apart from the Jap Import version??? Please enlighten me!!!
Go and put your name down for the Brands Hatch track day in the southern section mate!!! Be good to have some fodder!
...or do you not believe that the soon to be released sti in the uk will not match your spec? (bar ppp and spring kit - so what - add another 2.3K for that lot and you're still saving approx. 3K on a WR1)
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03 September 2004, 03:01 PM
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curious ?
Originally Posted by Gubbins
I paid 3K less than you last year for new dealer supplied STI Type UK with:
(STI ppp LIST PRICE is around 27k - who pays that??? Oh, sorry, WR1 owners do!)
PPP (including exhaust and sports cat!! LOL!);
18" Titanium alloys;
Prodrive springs/bump stops;
Mats;
STI sill covers;
Tissue paper dispenser.
So mate, your differences are marginal, and will be non-existent come 3 months time when MY05 has the same kit. As I said, you've been rogered good and proper.
(STI ppp LIST PRICE is around 27k - who pays that??? Oh, sorry, WR1 owners do!)
PPP (including exhaust and sports cat!! LOL!);
18" Titanium alloys;
Prodrive springs/bump stops;
Mats;
STI sill covers;
Tissue paper dispenser.
So mate, your differences are marginal, and will be non-existent come 3 months time when MY05 has the same kit. As I said, you've been rogered good and proper.
If your dealer supplied Sti came with Prodrive springs why did you post this ...
http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=338402
Answer
you're a total windup merchant....just not a very good one