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Old 16 August 2004, 01:31 PM
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Old 16 August 2004, 01:35 PM
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Use Mozilla, have a spare tab set to dictionary.com Nothing wrong with expanding your vocabulary now and again.
Old 16 August 2004, 02:52 PM
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This made me laugh till I cried when I first saw it on TV....

Black Adder III, Episode 2

Ink and Incapability

E: Edmund Blackadder
J: Dr. Samuel Johnson
G: Prince Regent George


J: (places two manuscripts on the table, but picks up the top one)
Here it is, sir: the very cornerstone of English scholarship. This book,
sir, contains every word in our beloved language.

G: Hmm.

E: Every single one, sir?

J: (confidently) Every single word, sir!

E: (to Prince) Oh, well, in that case, sir, I hope you will not object if
I also offer the Doctor my most enthusiastic contrafribblarities.

J: What?

E: `Contrafribblarites', sir? It is a common word down our way.

J: Damn! (writes in the book)

E: Oh, I'm sorry, sir. I'm anus-peptic, phrasmotic, even compunctious to have
caused you such pericombobulation.

J: What? What? WHAT?

G: What are you on about, Blackadder? This is all beginning to sound a bit
like dago talk to me.

Old 17 August 2004, 07:33 AM
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Nothing wriong with using correct english words even if they are a bit longer. Better than subsiding into US type slang anyway and it does not warrant the inverted snobbery from those who are probably losing the argument anyway.

Les
Old 17 August 2004, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Leslie
Nothing wriong with using correct english words even if they are a bit longer. Better than subsiding into US type slang anyway and it does not warrant the inverted snobbery from those who are probably losing the argument anyway.

Les

I'm all for correct speech, its a dying trend in this country "innit". Its just when people talk/debate then suddenly turn into a dictionary in an attempt to sound clever during the latter stages of an argument it makes me chuckle.

"I'm using long words, therefore I'm more educated than you, therefore I'm right".
Old 17 August 2004, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
I'm all for correct speech, its a dying trend in this country "innit". Its just when people talk/debate then suddenly turn into a dictionary in an attempt to sound clever during the latter stages of an argument it makes me chuckle.

"I'm using long words, therefore I'm more educated than you, therefore I'm right".
Examples would be ever so useful, as requested by a previous poster. Incidentally, and while we're on this sort of subject, what makes me laugh is when people attempt to use words they've not used before, and can't spell to save their life, in an attempt to appear more educated than perhaps they are. Nothing wrong with being unable to spell, though perhaps I'd recommend a dictonary; nevertheless, to completely get it wrong betrays a fundamental lack of knowledge.

'Shovanist' was a particularly good recent example.

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Old 17 August 2004, 08:12 AM
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Originally Posted by the moose
Examples would be ever so useful, as requested by a previous poster. Incidentally, and while we're on this sort of subject, what makes me laugh is when people attempt to use words they've not used before, and can't spell to save their life, in an attempt to appear more educated than perhaps they are. Nothing wrong with being unable to spell, though perhaps I'd recommend a dictonary; nevertheless, to completely get it wrong betrays a fundamental lack of knowledge.

'Shovanist' was a particularly good recent example.
I wasn't sure how the above word was spelt, I did a quick search on google and it came up as shovanist, you know what it meant , and as this is scoobynet (not an exam) it 'really' doesn't matter. Also, the odd spelling mistake does not mean a "fundamental lack of knowledge" - making statements like that does though.

I make a light hearted joke - you resort to nit-picking and personal abuse.

Thank you for your input.

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Old 17 August 2004, 08:30 AM
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Originally Posted by the moose
what makes me laugh is when people attempt to use words they've not used before, and can't spell to save their life, in an attempt to appear more educated than perhaps they are. Nothing wrong with being unable to spell, though perhaps I'd recommend a dictonary; nevertheless, to completely get it wrong betrays a fundamental lack of knowledge.
It also displays bravery - To *** onto this site and attempt to communicate with those much better than you shows that some people are willing to make make a point and aren't worried that others will shoot down their opinions simply because they haven't had the same chances as other greater beings.

It's what makes SN so entertaining .

ps Senior AP - *** came up on google OK too
Old 17 August 2004, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by jasey
It also displays bravery - To *** onto this site and attempt to communicate with those much better than you shows that some people are willing to make make a point and aren't worried that others will shoot down their opinions simply because they haven't had the same chances as other greater beings.

It's what makes SN so entertaining .

ps Senior AP - *** came up on google OK too

Depends.

Bravery is to enter the argument, but to use a word you don't know because you think it'll impress someone is just daft. Then again, if you're aiming for the precise term which accurately describes an element of your argument, and it means reaching outside your normal lexicon, it can only be a good thing.
Old 17 August 2004, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by the moose
Depends.

Bravery is to enter the argument, but to use a word you don't know because you think it'll impress someone is just daft. Then again, if you're aiming for the precise term which accurately describes an element of your argument, and it means reaching outside your normal lexicon, it can only be a good thing.
WHAT ?
Old 17 August 2004, 08:50 AM
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Group buy on Scrabble, anyone?
Old 17 August 2004, 08:51 AM
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<Sun-speak>
Avvin a bit of argy-bargy's fine, just gotta know what ya sayin

Yewsin a big wurd or too might even stretch ya mind, innit?
</Sun-speak>
Old 17 August 2004, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by the moose
<Sun-speak>
Avvin a bit of argy-bargy's fine, just gotta know what ya sayin

Yewsin a big wurd or too might even stretch ya mind, innit?
</Sun-speak>
Eye Sea.

Anyway - Getting back on topic - ScoobyNet has probably done more to raise Education standards in the last 5 Years than successive governments have in the past 50 !

The use of long words is fine - as is the use of short ones.

**** off w@nks
Old 17 August 2004, 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by jasey

The use of long words is fine - as is the use of short ones.

I agree.

That wasn't really my (light hearted) point though.
Old 17 August 2004, 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
I agree.

That wasn't really my (light hearted) point though.
No - But it was mine .

All sorts of defence mechanisms come into play when you're losing arguments. The long words are useful on a BBS as is Agression - but the best is silence







ps Nobody is supposed to reply now unless you agree with me which means I WIN
Old 17 August 2004, 09:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jasey
No - But it was mine .

All sorts of defence mechanisms come into play when you're losing arguments. The long words are useful on a BBS as is Agression - but the best is silence







ps Nobody is supposed to reply now unless you agree with me which means I WIN
I do agree. All I did was make a joke about peoples vocabulary changing when they start getting defensive or stroppy/trying to prove a point (one of many defence mechanisms as you said - just the one that I noticed the most).

Silence is ok but too many people here get personal - not necessary at all.

I do agree, so you can take the gold medal.

I wonder if any thread on this site can be not turned into a slanging match of personal abuse and insults.

Thread closed hopefully.

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Old 17 August 2004, 09:27 AM
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Yes, if you can avoid calling TSs "weirdos"...
Old 17 August 2004, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Yes, if you can avoid calling TSs "weirdos"...
Yes, I resisted saying anything about TSs'. Hold on, that was a different thread....!!
Old 17 August 2004, 09:38 AM
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Personal Abuse is a great leveller - only when educated folk get upset do they express theselves in such a way that the pond-life can understand what they are going on about .

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Old 17 August 2004, 09:40 AM
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LOL jasey!!

Feckin eejit.
Old 17 August 2004, 09:40 AM
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Senior_AP, Don't know why, but I really thought *you* would have been able to spell chauvinist
Old 17 August 2004, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by tiggers
Senior_AP, Don't know why, but I really thought *you* would have been able to spell chauvinist
Gotta be honest, I didn't think Shovanist looked right but i wasn't bothered enough to check. I honestly didn't expect such a reaction over a spelling mistake.

More fool me!!

I'll have to check, check and check again as a simple spelling mistake seems to invalidate all content irrespective of its value.

innit
Old 17 August 2004, 09:44 AM
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Now PLEEEAAAAAASSSE close this thread before I cry in a crumpled heap on the floor drained of all life.
Old 17 August 2004, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Senior_AP
Gotta be honest, I didn't think Shovanist looked right but i wasn't bothered enough to check. I honestly didn't expect such a reaction over a spelling mistake.

More fool me!!

I'll have to check, check and check again as a simple spelling mistake seems to invalidate all content irrespective of its value.

innit
No, you miss my point. I don't care whether you can spell it or not, I just thought you would be able to
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
LOL jasey!!

Feckin eejit.
Stop making me laugh - My Boss is looking at me and wondering Why I'm so happy today


Last edited by jasey; 17 August 2004 at 09:47 AM. Reason: The f is nowhere near the s and my "ing" is broken
Old 17 August 2004, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by tiggers
No, you miss my point. I don't care whether you can spell it or not, I just thought you would be able to

I know, I saw what you were saying, I was referring to others not you. Apologies for that confusion.
Old 17 August 2004, 09:49 AM
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Close the thread....
Old 17 August 2004, 11:37 AM
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I have to hold up my hands to this one. No-one had to look anything up? Good.
Old 17 August 2004, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by shamrock
BTW all you're spellings are incorrect, I should know because I came 2nd in a Weetabix spelling competetion when I was 7.

my 4 year old can spell weetabix....doesnt sound much of a competetion!
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my 4 year old can spell weetabix....doesnt sound much of a competetion!
Hence the fact why I came 2nd. It was all politics ....


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