scoobynutta555

No
Judging from what you have typed i'll wager that there are significantly high number of rubbish comments in your post counts. Go out into the sunshine now and again.

Senior_AP

I'd say we were stuck to the pan, about 3 flushes from being dislodged and lost forever.....

scoobynutta555

You must have gone to Rhodean in your school years. Have witnessed this at my school 15 years ago.

TelBoy

Dan, you're embarrassing yourself. Really.

unclebuck

Ah, a Liberal Democrat. That explains everything.

Senior_AP

OK then. What are your opinions and observations of this country. I'm not having a go, I am just asking the question as I'm interested.

Redkop

Perhaps I just live in a better area than you, as it wasn't prolific here 15 years ago

scoobynutta555

Somebody needs to go to spec savers.

Anyway, what's the point of voting Conservative when the most right wing party ever are Labour?

scoobynutta555

But it is prolific now in your area? It isn't in mine, ergo I live in a better area than you

PiNkEyE69

Not saying that at all. When I was a "youth" (only 14 years ago I might add) if you did things like this you were come down on... HARD, by everyone, cops, parent, neighbours. There was a spate when cars, houses, garages were broken into on a weekly basis round my area about 15 years ago, but after a lot of police and community involvemnt it got the level of maybe 1 break-in of anything every couple of months in the close... if you're unlucky. Now it seems youths like this can get away with murder and neighbours just turn a blind eye to things.
Example point, I couldn't say for definate that the police had a chat to them as this was in the next close on the estate, but they were standing in the open when I last saw them, and then after the police go they come back for another look at the garages!!!
There were 7 garages on that row (mine one of them - but I'd like to see them get in mine with padlocked bolts), I'd rather stood there in the rain preventing the crime or more crime than turn a blind eye to it.
Adult criminals I can understand, but meer kids!!! God when I was that age I was doing football, skateboarding, and drinkin cider round s friends house. Youth of today seem to be more in break-ins, vandalism, and gang/mob culture than any of that. And no, I don't blame computer games, as seems ot be the growing public trend for anti-social, violent behavior (considering I was playing them since I was 9)

RichWalk

one of many theories is the significant increase in single parent families, esp those where male children are brought up by their mothers; I would like to ignore political agendas an go straight to basic evolutionary traits; the lack of a male role in up-bringing (for both sexes) creates an imbalance in the input the child recieves, and removes (physically in some cases) the normal 'fear>respect mode' a child should have to other older males.........not having a go at single moms here, just giving part of the reasoning behind inter-play between young and older males ie; when i was young, I wouldnt even look at an older lad; nowadays i can walk around and 12 yera olds start shouting 'give us a ciggie mate' at you then swear when you ignore them.

Redkop

I was generalising more towards the slum areas, I should have added to 'it wasn't prolific here 15 years ago' and said fortunately it isn't here now either!! Nice you see you have moved to a more upmarket residential area from your schooldays.

Scumbag

Try reading the whole of the quote....black mates being beaten up...sorry forgot BNP is very much anti-racism ha-ha-ha

Please tell me what THIS government has given quite so differently to the last tory offering to the "Chavvie dolies".Plenty of girls went the "pregnant for a council house" route in the 70's and 80's...thats probably this governments fault too

Dont get me wrong I think this lot are t0ssres, but no more t0ssers than the last lot...they played a very cute trick, and stole tory policies...forcing them much further to the right, and the tories have been ridiculously re-active for the past 2 terms. I mean who would have thought that the first thing a labour government would do would be to hand control of interest rates to an independent body...hardly socialist is it?

My point is that there is plenty of **** happening, and I dont think it would be any worse if anyone else had been in power

unclebuck

Oh, so you're one of the 'anti-everything I don't vote' brigade.
In that case you forefit your right to an opinion in my view.

UB

gsm1

No different to schools 20, even 30, years ago.

TelBoy

But the underlying *attitudes* were undeniably different, from what i saw then and what i see now.

Scumbag

It was prolific in my nice middle class grammar school 25 years ago ffs

Redkop

No FFS about, I am just saying it wasn't here - ok?

MJW

Hmmm a bit of a sweeping generalisation : not a lot of single parents intended to become what they are, and to say that they all do it just to get state handouts is utter tosh. I've no doubt there are a few that do, but to tar them all with the same brush is ridiculous.
One of the reasons there are more single parents around nowadays is because it's very easy to get divorced and women are no longer forced to put up with a bad relationship. Consequently the lack of parental guidance has a detrimental effect in some cases (but not all)

Also not to be discounted is the increasingly litigious society we now live in and the rise of the true scum of the earth : no win no fee lawyers. Because of these fast-buck ar$eholes school discipline has all but disappeared due to fear of legal action.

Goochie

I blame the parents

scoobynutta555

One observation is that even though obviously there is intelligence on Scoobynet, political nous is not that apparent. Saddens me to read many political comments on here from obviously intelligent people that barely have a rudimentary grasp of politics.

I have studied politics, and was taught to evaluate politics on a level playing field, alligning myself to no political party in particular. This allows you to take a pragmatic view and a more balanced perspective. I can and have been critical of Blair, just as I can for any party. To simply blame the current government on all of UK society ills from a 7 year record is patently a very flawed arguement. Indeed, I'd be hard pushed to blame Thatcher for the many things she's been accused of doing to this country, and she was here for 11 years as PM.

The past 7 years have seen us a country improve out status in wealth terms. Whilst many economies have been in slight recession, UK remained on an even keel and even improved economically. Employment has been at quite high levels, and business as well as general population has benefited not only from low interest rates but from relatively consistant rate.

It is a well known fact that people look at years gone by as a golden age where crime was less and everything was generally better. This is on the whole a fallacy. For example, child murders. Reading newspapers today you'd think this was an increasing problem. However, if you look back at the statistics, there has been an even number each year going back decades of child abduction and murder.

unclebuck

No, but it might have been a damn sight better. We would not have the politically correct, police as revenue collectors, cameras not traffic cops 'law and order' system we have now. I also doubt we would have the 'f*ck you, you can't touch me' attitude today's youth have where they know all about their 'rights' but nothing about their responsibilites as citizens.

All this is a New Labour creation.

UB

Senior_AP

Its more prolific in more areas than it was in the past.

I live in a nice area. There is better but htere is alot worse!!

Scumbag

OK...maybe we're all turning into grumpy old men (I know I am)

TelBoy

Yep, good points. How you combat the ill-effects of a higher incidence of divorce is anyone's guess.

gsm1

In what way? In my day (80s) there were major fights going on between the neighbouring school, skinheads sniffing evo-stik in and outside the school gates, fights between punks and skins and loads of racist attacks. A favourite for the kids was to go down the chip shop at lunch time while hurling racist abuse at old Asian women or chucking stuff at them from the top floor of a bus. Yeah, real great attitude they had in those days. All this was happening in Maggie's constituency!

scoobynutta555

Complete rubbish!

And :More complete crap.

Redkop

I bloody hope I'm not

TelBoy

Sorry, but in my opinion, that smacks of not being able to distinguish theory from reality. And *still* crushingly patronising. Don't wish to discuss it further though if that view invokes another cheap shot.

Senior_AP

I can't discuss crime figures. These days I feel that less crime is being reported as people now feel "why bother". Things pass now where as 20 years ago they would have not been.

I refer to a general drop and slip of standards. A general trend of bad attitude and lack of respect, something previously reserved for pockets of society however is now the norm.