Senior_AP

Scoob = better car than a Clio.

Scoob = quicker car than a Clio.....unless its a WRX (MY01, 02) as I've proved. As for the later WRX's....I don't know.

Cool thread though !!

JackClark

I drove 4500 miles in my scoob, no problem. Even slept in it a few nights. Every condition from hot tarmac to two foot of snow.

JDM

Agreed that this thread is pretty damn good, especially like the videos as I said earlier, that is one quick little car and I think it's pretty healthy for Impreza drivers to see their cars getting a good kicking. Too many seem to think they own unbeatable supercars.
As for the bugeye WRX question, I had a run with one in my classic wagon before I decatted. The result one severely p*ssed off bugeye owner wondering how I managed to get to the next set of lights a good 3 or 4 seconds before he did. Was such a bad loser he didn't even have another go when the lights went green.
What were Subaru thinking when they made the bugeye? Still even Porsche have made a few mistakes (924, 911T, 911 speedster). If they can do it anyone can.

hawkeye

errrmmm regarding the bugeye (and yes I own one an MY02sti)

subaru were thinking they would improve the car from the classic WHICH THEY DID it may not be as (hardcore) but sure as hell sold a LOT more than the classic's ever did year by year!!

the sti was a great car but should have been what the ppp does to it from new.... however if you're lucky enough like I was to get something a bit special you'd realise how great the bugeye is compared to the classic notwithstanding HUGE mods or masses of money spent at it.

all IMHO of course FLAME ON!

Senior_AP

Bugeye - better car but lost its Impreza-ness.

Thats like BMW saying "we're turning our M3 Evo into a 750iL".

davyboy

Just to pick up on the 924 thing - It's still the best selling Porsche ever, made Porsche an absolute heap of money, as VW paid them to design it, then never wanted it!

However the last version of the 924, the 924 Carrera GT was a simply stunning every day super car! In fact if it was not for the 4WD Audi Quattro that came out around the same time, this would be the car we dreamed of owning!

JDM

Never driven a bugeye, only a blob eye (WRX) and it was as you say a better car than the classic Impreza. If not so quick.

However I stand by my comments "what were they thinking" regards the bugeye- the bugeye WRX is slower than the old car and I can't see how anyone can argue the looks were an improvement. I mean the classic is no looker but the bugeye???????? Reminds me of a Hyundai or one of those old Toyota Corrolas. Has to be one of the ugliest cars ever made.

To be honest I would take a Clio 182 over a bugeye (except maybe a PPP'd STi) anyday.

JDM

Agree re the last of the 924's, they made a tasty Turbo'd one from what I remember as well. The rest of them though? Just because it makes money doesn't mean it's any good, look at the Ford Crown Victoria as an example.

jas03WRX

LOL

jas03WRX

This was basically an Audi though underneath, wasn’t it?

hawkeye

hence why I also said IMHO of course I love the look of my Bugeye and honestly I prefer it to the classic. The blobeye looks good aswell but I like what I have. If I didn't like the look of a car I wouldn't have bought it. It's nice to look out of your bedroom window and see a car you like the "look" of not just to drive.

I agree the wrx bugeye is slower BUT it is a "better" car i.e. it can be modded just as far as the classic weight can be saved etc etc if you wish and it has better crash protection and a better interior etc etc. sales figures will back this up aswell.

Aesthetics aren't the only thing to look at. As a complete package the bugeye's were a logical (if not pretty) step forward.

Let's be brutally honest NO subaru is going to win a beauty competition anways (at the moment)

hawkeye

no youre wrong ap

you CAN turn a bugeye into what you call Impreza-ness

but you CANT turn a 750 iL into an M3 period


youre looking at it from the wrong angle look outside the box and you'll get my drift

JDM

quote : "Let's be brutally honest NO subaru is going to win a beauty competition anways "

Not so sure about that I always liked the wedgy looks of the SVX which I suppose destroys any credibility I have regarding vehicle aesthetics.

Senior_AP

So Subaru's sales pitch should have been: "The new MY01 WRX, its slower....but better. Simply spend 2 grand on it AFTER you've given us 20 grand for the car itself to make it as fast as a classic scoob".

Odd.

Senior_AP

As long as it drives well I personally don't care how it looks as long as it isn't rusty.

JDM

I suppose where a bugeye does begin to make some sort of sense is now in the secondhand market. Bearing in mind they seem to be for sale at less or similar prices to the best and last of the classics they offer good VFM, especially as they offer a better standard of equipment.
Buy one for 10.5K, spend 2K modding it and you have a lot of bang for your buck.
I wouldn't though.

hawkeye

agreed


your credability is now in tatters

JDM

Hawkeye I'd like point out that if you are going to tell someone that their CREDIBILITY is in tatters you should at least try to spell it correctly. Otherwise you don't have a CREDIBLE basis from which to work.

I stick by my comments anyway as far as Subaru are concerned the SVX was a work of beauty. Think it was a Giugiaro design rather than an inhouse job though.

hawkeye

now you're making your car buying judgement sound like it's based solely on performance??????

there are PLENTY and I mean plenty of examples of manufacturers newer models being slower than the originals

peugeot 205 ---- 206!!

volkswagon golf gti anyone????

many factors come into the buying decision if the bugeye was sooooo bad why did it sell so well. However it isn't the prettiest car therefore they had a face lift the blobeye which still isn't a looker really!!

Senior_AP

WRX is cheap second hand cos they suck.

People bought them and alot of people were disappointed.

The reason you buy a scoob is for performance.....!!

hawkeye

OMG it never ceases to amaze me how INCREDABLE people are at picking up spelling mistakes.

hawkeye

this obviously isn't going to get anywhere as we seem to view cars from different ends of the buying spectrum. Im sure there are plenty of examples to back up what you say and plenty to back up mine.

If we agree to disagree then at least that would be something we agree on












oh and im right and youre wrong

Senior_AP

lol. I'd agree with that.

JDM

and like the bugeye all the models you mention are generally regarded as inferior, lackluster replacements that didn't improve the breed.

As for the spelling mistake I was just pointing out that you need to be CREDIBLE yourself before questioning others CREDIBILITY, and joking of course

hawkeye

well that's agreed then!!!!


right next on the agenda..



Clio Cup SPANKS 924 & 944 Turbos *** big time

LOL

Senior_AP

Dependant on the driver...totally possibel!!

hawkeye

i know hence the smile and my speeeeeling of incredible

JDM

All is well that ends well then.

shame those two scoobs got an *** kicking from a 'slower' car though eh?

davyboy

I have no doubt a Clio Cup would beat me in a drag race! Getting a 944 turbo off the line quickely is near on impossible. 15.5 secs 1/4 miles anyone

hawkeye

To JDM & Davyboy


it's post like yours and hopefully mine that make scoobynet a pleasure.... taken in context we can all have fun and light banter

have fun & stay happy

hawk out (for the mo)