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Old 25 July 2004, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by sti-04!!
Stevie - No probs mate, lets hope you get that 6 then
Stephen
stephen it was a no go with the 6 that i saw today, it has had a bit of accident damage that had been repaired.
might just stick with the wagon, i will see what happens over the holidays

stevie
Old 25 July 2004, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by john banks
You don't need a high pressure fuel pump and regulator to help fuel surge, you need lots of fuel in the tank or a swirl pot/surge tank.


The problem is the positioning of the fuel pickup in the tank - out the hairpin the fuel is mainly sitting in the opposite side of the tank to the pickup which runs the pump dry.

A fuel pressure gauge will tell you it is happening a short while before the car complains majorly. You can get a little bit of detonation from this so it is worth avoiding repeatedly over many track days.

Some uprated fuel pumps can even make the situation worse if you use the supplied pick up that comes with them which is sometimes shorter.

How much fuel did you have when it was surging?
John - thanks for your reply, i had over a half tank before it started kicking back

were would i get a swirl pot/surge tank from & are they hard to fit

Thanks

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Old 25 July 2004, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by west lothian scooby
stephen it was a no go with the 6 that i saw today, it has had a bit of accident damage that had been repaired.
might just stick with the wagon, i will see what happens over the holidays

stevie
Your joking

pity eh?

though there is a couple out there, good luck on the hunt
Old 26 July 2004, 12:19 AM
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Powerstation feature one on their website, also search on 22b and here for previous threads. Above half a tank does seem a bit unlucky though, were you on slicks?
Old 26 July 2004, 03:10 AM
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I used to get fuel surge when just over quarter tank left on the Sti8. Hopefully not see this on the Evo as it's a baffled tank which is meant to stop this from happening....well see on the 10th!!

Stephen...you sound totally bitten by the bug mate. Planning track mods already
Old 26 July 2004, 08:37 AM
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Anyone manage to get any video of me in my Elise? Was in the Orange S1 with black stripes. my 1st trackday....awesome. I have the bug now shame my wallet doesnt feel the same way!! Managed to spin out on cold tyres...that and I was running the dreaded Pzeros which are really poor on the elise. Was a nice place to spin ( the right had blind bend just after duffus) and there was no need for the dirt trap.

Think im going to sort my tyres and suspension out before my next trackday.

Gareth.
Old 26 July 2004, 08:59 AM
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Originally Posted by john banks
Powerstation feature one on their website, also search on 22b and here for previous threads. Above half a tank does seem a bit unlucky though, were you on slicks?
nope new Toyo TS1's !

Strange, very strange ?
Old 26 July 2004, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by evojkp
Stephen...you sound totally bitten by the bug mate. Planning track mods already
Yip, just want to get it right & stop it surging, its an embarresment more than anything else, kangarooing out of the hairpin !!!!!
Old 26 July 2004, 09:17 AM
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Glad you all enjoyed the day

Fuel surge - just keep the fuel above 1/3 tank and you'll be fine, or fit a swirl pot from Powerstation, or get the optional STi fuel pump/filter/pickup assembly (may as well fit the uprated fuel pump at the same time).

Most people just learn to live with it and drive around it, I generally just ease on the throttle in 2nd coming out of the hairpin, until I'm in 3rd, by which time everything has settled down.

Hope to see you all there again on our next event on the 11th September. This event is likely to be very busy from what I've heard (lots of people who couldn't make it on Saturday are booking up), so I'd book up now to make sure of your place! http://shop.sidc.co.uk

Cheers

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Old 26 July 2004, 01:00 PM
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Talking Spooks - you are the main man :) !!!!!!!!!

Hey folks,

I'm gonna make up another DVD with all the footage when I'm back from my holiday.
I will rejuvenate this thread nearer the time .I think I have most people on camera. The wind was a pain in the erse though

Deadduck - do you have any footage of my passing you ? If so please let me know - thanks. Kev ( woosh) ditto please

Spooks - appreciate of you could email me the high-res piccies of the 2 black CTR's & the Clio Cup. You do a better joab than DoubleG !!!!!!!!! Loved your website -some ace pics in there


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Old 26 July 2004, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Civic Type R
Deadduck - do you have any footage of my passing you ? If so please let me know - thanks. Kev ( woosh) ditto please
Yep, I'm sure we will have. Pretty much had it on the whole time. I'll check once I get it of my co-driver.

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Old 26 July 2004, 07:13 PM
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Thumbs up Kevin S - nice one bruvva ! :)

Woosh / Kev - cheers for that ! Will endeavor to reciprocate the favour after trawling through my footage . The gf's broadband is down overtime at the moment ! Thanks again

Cal
Old 27 July 2004, 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnS
Hope to see you all there again on our next event on the 11th September. This event is likely to be very busy from what I've heard (lots of people who couldn't make it on Saturday are booking up), so I'd book up now to make sure of your place! http://shop.sidc.co.uk
Just booked mine now
Only 46 and a half days to go............

I also experienced fuel surge (not nice and not good for the heart!!)
That was with 1/2 tank left, and I had already had an uprated fuel pump fitted.
Old 27 July 2004, 08:41 AM
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Swirl pot it is then.

<flutter as the moths fly out his wallet>

Old 27 July 2004, 09:15 AM
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No problem cal.....

I was also getting terible Fuel surge on the hairpin and at Clarks. Pain in the **** when your powering past someone and you lose power
Old 27 July 2004, 09:17 AM
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Group buy on swirl pots ??????????
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