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20 July 2004, 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by logiclee
The Mini weighs as much as a Ford Focus and has a weezy 1.6 engine that struggles with 115bhp and only 105lbft of torque.
The Skoda has 130bhp and 230lbft of torque.
Diesel cars have to have much higher torque than petrols just to have the same performance.
20 July 2004, 01:56 PM
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PAUL PALMER.....
Easy to say but as my very first post in this thread stated...... some weeks its naff, some weeks its good, some weeks its excellent , some weeks its purile cr@p....... so until you watch it you 'll never know ~~~~~~~~ will you?
Easy to say but as my very first post in this thread stated...... some weeks its naff, some weeks its good, some weeks its excellent , some weeks its purile cr@p....... so until you watch it you 'll never know ~~~~~~~~ will you?
20 July 2004, 02:07 PM
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PAUL PALMER.....
Easy to say but as my very first post in this thread stated...... some weeks its naff, some weeks its good, some weeks its excellent , some weeks its purile cr@p....... so until you watch it you 'll never know ~~~~~~~~ will you?
Easy to say but as my very first post in this thread stated...... some weeks its naff, some weeks its good, some weeks its excellent , some weeks its purile cr@p....... so until you watch it you 'll never know ~~~~~~~~ will you?
There are always too many users on here that obviously have too much time and need to have a whinge about something (rally coverage/Top Gear/ fith gear etc) to make their day better. If they think they can do a better job I'd love to see it.
20 July 2004, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by kob999
Comparing BHP and torque figures of petrol and diesel cars is pointless and very misleading.
Diesel cars have to have much higher torque than petrols just to have the same performance.
Diesel cars have to have much higher torque than petrols just to have the same performance.
Diesels do have to have much higher torque to achieve decent bhp because they don't rev very high. BHP is only torque X revs anyway.
Much more depends on torque curves, gearing, weight and aerodynamics.
The new 1.9TTD Vectra is faster than the 3.2V6 petrol and they have very similar power outputs. Most diesels are going to appear slower on paper as they need an extra gear change to reach 60mph. On the road it can be very different
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20 July 2004, 03:25 PM
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Originally Posted by logiclee
Not strictly true.
Diesels do have to have much higher torque to achieve decent bhp because they don't rev very high. BHP is only torque X revs anyway.
Much more depends on torque curves, gearing, weight and aerodynamics.
The new 1.9TTD Vectra is faster than the 3.2V6 petrol and they have very similar power outputs. Most diesels are going to appear slower on paper as they need an extra gear change to reach 60mph. On the road it can be very different
Lee
Diesels do have to have much higher torque to achieve decent bhp because they don't rev very high. BHP is only torque X revs anyway.
Much more depends on torque curves, gearing, weight and aerodynamics.
The new 1.9TTD Vectra is faster than the 3.2V6 petrol and they have very similar power outputs. Most diesels are going to appear slower on paper as they need an extra gear change to reach 60mph. On the road it can be very different
Lee
Aren't you just proving my point that simply putting BHP and Torque figures down as proof that one car is obviously faster than the other is misleading.
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