The better team won anyway.....
24 June 2004, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jye
Still Tel, at least you have patriotic supporters like Audi-Brat, just to make up for your scummy jock 'good for nothing neighbours' like me, lol 
24 June 2004, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by ozzy
Sorry Audi-Boy, but if you think England are World Class purely based on defense you are off your head. Who the **** wants to see a country lift the cup when all they do is sneak a goal and then sit on it for 80 mins !!!
They've played cr@p all tournament, just like Germany, Italy, Spain and Portugal. When you get to these comps, you need to be up for it and attack. I'd rather countries like the Czech Republic, Sweeden or Denmark get to the finals coz at least we see some proper attacking football.
Just my 2p's worth.
As for the decision, there's been dodgy decisions all tournament with penalties disallowed and incorrect decisions. IMHO, England should have done more than wait til the last minute. Rooney didn't do much even before he got injured and if the teams lost without one player then English football is in a worse state than I thought.
The Czechs made 9 changes and still put the Germans out.
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They've played cr@p all tournament, just like Germany, Italy, Spain and Portugal. When you get to these comps, you need to be up for it and attack. I'd rather countries like the Czech Republic, Sweeden or Denmark get to the finals coz at least we see some proper attacking football.
Just my 2p's worth.
As for the decision, there's been dodgy decisions all tournament with penalties disallowed and incorrect decisions. IMHO, England should have done more than wait til the last minute. Rooney didn't do much even before he got injured and if the teams lost without one player then English football is in a worse state than I thought.
The Czechs made 9 changes and still put the Germans out.
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Jocktastic innit!!
24 June 2004, 11:34 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
So you'll accept then that all this talk of how that decision put England out of the tournament is quite clearly incorrect.....it didn't. Anything could have happened in the remaining minutes of the match even if the goal had been allowed....
24 June 2004, 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Bloody hell mate, you *do* like to labour a point. My opinion is that it would have been conclusive. I'm not looking for black and white "correct"/"incorrect". We're NOT going to change the outcome now, are we?
The evidence is there for all to see in the France game. 2 goals got banged in against England in the final minute or two.
24 June 2004, 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by bloke
I bet you were itching to post this. Archetypal BBS saddo, just wanted to stir it as usual 
b) have you seen the amount of crying going on in about 1000 other threads!
c) my first post is pretty neutral....
24 June 2004, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
a) you responded to it
b) have you seen the amount of crying going on in about 1000 other threads!
c) my first post is pretty neutral....
b) have you seen the amount of crying going on in about 1000 other threads!
c) my first post is pretty neutral....
24 June 2004, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Of course you're right, technically. Ok?
If I was watching a ManU v Arsenal game, I'd expect the BBC to show no bias in their presentation
24 June 2004, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by bloke
Yeah you're so clever. I wish I was like you.
No-one asked you to contribute to this thread...
24 June 2004, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Audi-Boy
Did you just say something?
Jocktastic innit!!
Jocktastic innit!!
Half Czech m8, so I'm only a watered-down bitter Scot
You're better supporting a proper team.
24 June 2004, 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RRB
I honestly cant see how people say England were robbed. Terry blatantly obstructed the Goalie, am I the only one who seen this ?
More importantly, he had every right to be standing where he was, no? The only point of contention, imo, is whether his left arm on the goalie was a deliberate impediment. I reckon the decision to disallow the goal on that basis was very harsh at best.
24 June 2004, 11:45 PM
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Had the roles been reversed (ie, the ref disallowed a portugal goal), his "bad decision" would have been swept under the carpet by the media
It goes both ways. England were unlucky to have a decision against them, but that's how it is.
Why don't they have video refs like rugby union, rugby league, cricket, etc?
Makes sense to everyone, so why not?????
It goes both ways. England were unlucky to have a decision against them, but that's how it is.
Why don't they have video refs like rugby union, rugby league, cricket, etc?
Makes sense to everyone, so why not?????
24 June 2004, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
Personally i don't think he could have moved from where he was even if he'd tried.
More importantly, he had every right to be standing where he was, no? The only point of contention, imo, is whether his left arm on the goalie was a deliberate impediment. I reckon the decision to disallow the goal on that basis was very harsh at best.
More importantly, he had every right to be standing where he was, no? The only point of contention, imo, is whether his left arm on the goalie was a deliberate impediment. I reckon the decision to disallow the goal on that basis was very harsh at best.
24 June 2004, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Audi-Boy
Haha LMAO the jocks have convinced themselves we weren't cheated!
How bitter can a nation be?
How bitter can a nation be?
24 June 2004, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by imlach
Had the roles been reversed (ie, the ref disallowed a portugal goal), his "bad decision" would have been swept under the carpet by the media
It goes both ways. England were unlucky to have a decision against them, but that's how it is.
Why don't they have video refs like rugby union, rugby league, cricket, etc?
Makes sense to everyone, so why not?????
It goes both ways. England were unlucky to have a decision against them, but that's how it is.
Why don't they have video refs like rugby union, rugby league, cricket, etc?
Makes sense to everyone, so why not?????
So yes, i agree with your suggestion - i can't see why video can't be used. "Interrupting the flow of the game" is the only argument i've ever heard against it. Why football is so different though i've never quite worked out....
24 June 2004, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by TelBoy
"Interrupting the flow of the game" is the only argument i've ever heard against it. Why football is so different though i've never quite worked out....
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