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Old 21 June 2004, 12:06 PM
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Humans cause damage to property
Humans cause damage to indigenous wildlife
Humans present a health risk to all other animals

They should not be allowed out of the house


Cats present a health risk to humans
Care to elaborate?

I expect overall they bring a lot more hapiness and comfort to the human race than the health risk and suffering you are obsessed with.

They are known to assist with stress relief (hey maybe you should get a few) and are used to help seriously ill kids and all sorts of people for things such as depression, lonliness etc.

Odd that the health service use them if they're such dirty disease mongerers

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Old 21 June 2004, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MooseRacer
So cats can only crap on pavements or private property? LOL it gets better and better.
I'm sure you can avoid deliberately misinterpreting my posts if you tried.

Fact: people's cats defacate in my garden

The fact that dogs, birds and foxes produce excrement does not change this fact.
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by juan
Humans cause damage to property
Humans cause damage to indigenous wildlife
Humans present a health risk to all other animals

They should not be allowed out of the house
This may or may not be true, but it isn't relevant to this debate. This debate is about cats.
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by OllyK
That's the point, you shouldn't need to look as your cat should never have been in their garden to take a crap in the first place.
This is bordering on the ridiculous now. lmao
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
Those facts are:-
  • Cats cause damage to property
  • Cats cause damage to indigenous wildlife
  • Cats present a health risk to humans
Just out of curiosity, can you explain the property damage bit ?
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:11 PM
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This may or may not be true, but it isn't relevant to this debate. This debate is about cats.
care to elaborate on the health risk issue then and counter their usage by the health service?
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:12 PM
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I find it disturbing that 54% of people on here (Jye's aliases and office colleagues aside ) are so unreasonable as to believe that they should in no way be responsible for the actions of their own pet.

Its disgraceful.
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:12 PM
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My cats crap in their own garden which really p1sses me off
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
I find it disturbing that 54% of people on here (Jye's aliases and office colleagues aside ) are so unreasonable as to believe that they should in no way be responsible for the actions of their own pet.
We've noticed
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
There are 10 million odd cats in the UK and they must be pooing somewhere! If its not along pavements then it must be on private property, hence this discussion!

Rather than me mis-interpreting your post, it seems you've made a rather silly statement ajm

Following on from RedKop's question, have you made any moves to have the laws modified or clarified?
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Muffleman
Just out of curiosity, can you explain the property damage bit ?
Ok, here it is once again....

For me it entails:-

- Faeces on lawns
- Paw marks/scratches on cars
- Killed/missing pets, fish etc.
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Daz34
My cats crap in their own garden which really p1sses me off
Mine does that too. I have to throw it into the neighbour's garden myself!!
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:15 PM
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'must seek revenge, must poo EVERYWHERE, must kill ALL wildlife, must damage cars\houses'

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Old 21 June 2004, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
Ok, here it is once again....

For me it entails:-

- Faeces on lawns
- Paw marks/scratches on cars
- Killed/missing pets, fish etc.

come on
cats don't scratch cars and the paw marks are just dust that wash off. Me thinks you're clutching.
they don't **** on lawns. they go for earth
they will scratch wooden fences n stuff but usually only in their own territory


now about the health issues please
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by MooseRacer
Following on from RedKop's question, have you made any moves to have the laws modified or clarified?
No I havn't. Do you think I would get a fair hearing?
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
No I havn't. Do you think I would get a fair hearing?
I wonder why you might not?
any update on the health issues yet?
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:18 PM
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Originally Posted by juan
Mine does that too. I have to throw it into the neighbour's garden myself!!
LOL
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ajm
No I havn't. Do you think I would get a fair hearing?
So, you are so bothered by it you won't do anything about it? Except take the law into your own hands presumably?
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:23 PM
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Man these threads kill my work productivity.

I'm gonna have to request work blocks SN access one day
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:23 PM
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There are health issues actually as ajm mentioned a few pages back. Do a search for toxoplasma gondii cysts - doesn't make for pleasant reading.

Having said that, I've never come across any of the related problems before, personally.

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Old 21 June 2004, 12:25 PM
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If you cannot put a case together against those facts then I'm afraid you are in way over your head in this thread.
sure I'll come back when my IQ reaches 3 figures.

O and its still all bollocks....................
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by juan
come on
cats don't scratch cars and the paw marks are just dust that wash off. Me thinks you're clutching.
they don't **** on lawns. they go for earth
they will scratch wooden fences n stuff but usually only in their own territory


now about the health issues please
For the purposes of this debate you are going to have to accept that I have had paw marks on my car with associated claw scratches and I have excrement in the grass. If I didn't I wouldn't be participating in this debate.

If you want me to take your point of view seriously you are going to have to cease being so presumtious as to tell me what damage I have and havn't had.

The health issues are well documented. Look them up. If you have any further questions then come back to me.
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:28 PM
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I find it disturbing that 54% of people on here (Jye's aliases and office colleagues aside ) are so unreasonable as to believe that they should in no way be responsible for the actions of their own pet.
ajm, your getting desperate now m8, being disturbed by cat threads, perhaps you have the parasite in you, LOL

BTW my two 'aliases' in the office are laughing now too, it's pity you find the vote hard to take in

I think what this thread really shows, even though you find it so hard to believe, is that you and OllyK, and perhaps Tel, are the only ones on SN atm who share the same opinions regarding cat ownership

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Old 21 June 2004, 12:29 PM
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:30 PM
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Maybe it was another creature that shat on your lawn then?

Did the paw prints wash off?

I can't take it too seriously because I get this feeling that even if your house fell down there would be some cat related reason for it
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Jye
ajm, your getting desperate now m8, being disturbed by cat threads, perhaps you have the parasite in you, LOL
Desperate no. Disappointed, yes.

BTW my two 'aliases' in the office are laughing now too, it's pity you find the vote hard to take in
Almost NACR'esque!

I think what this thread really shows, even though you find it so hard to believe, is that you and OllyK, and perhaps Tel, are the only ones on SN atm who share the same opinions regarding cat ownership
49% actually!
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:32 PM
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BTW Bob, weapon69 voted yes, get her to clean a few litter trays m8
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:34 PM
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I've voted no, especially because even ajm himself doesn't know whether cat owners already are responsible for their pet's actions.
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Old 21 June 2004, 12:34 PM
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49% actually!
Pity it's not reflected in the comments though, I also wonder myself how many NACROesqe tactics are now being used, ajm PS-Lewis, lol
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