mad_dr

I think we can conclude that MOTS has NO suggestions for solutions that would have been appropriate in this situation.

Sorry MOTS - your 'suggestions' may work in some situation or other, but not this one. Despite your claim that you're more clever than a Scottish Bodybuilder, I do not feel that this superiority, alone, would have resulted in a satisfactory outcome had it been YOU in the BB House.

Our Survey Says... Ehh Errr!

TheManOnTheStreet

No, YOu eliminated them because they didn't work for Jason.

You're asking what *I* would have done, and I've told you.

juan

- You ignore them and they continue to scream in your face telling you they're not clearing it up. How long do you ignore them for? You're getting a headache

- You walk away and they follow you screaming in your ear and dancing in your face, so back to square one

- you give as good as you get and they laugh at you and scream in your face and refuse to accept responsibility for cleaning up your house. How long do you accept this for?

- you taunt them. - Please elaborate. Meantime they're screaming in your face and doing silly dances in front of you and basically telling you to f**k off and tidy up their mess. How long do you accept this for?

- you humour them - Please elaborate. Meantime they're screaming in your face and doing silly dances in front of you and basically telling you to f**k off and tidy up their mess. How long do you accept this for?

fast bloke

OK - Semantics aside - What do you think Jason should have said to 'give as good as he got'

juan

chop chop.

Jason already had the situation sorted over an hour ago

TheManOnTheStreet

..and as I've already said, if they can wind you up so much that you can do nothing about it apart from resorting to violence, who's the clever one?

fast bloke

so who resorted to violence then?

TheManOnTheStreet

sorry, semantics. Threats of violence.

juan

You haven't come up with anything and certainly not any alternatives(again).
Game over.

Jason closed the situation one way or another.
If you wree there they would still be screaming in your ear and dancing in your face 24 hours later in a **** tip of a house

fast bloke

I see you read the previous post but have declined to answer

TheManOnTheStreet

OK Mr Thug I'll go with your solution.

juan

I'm no thug (though I have seen you're good at typecasting people) but I'm glad you can accept that you can't come up with a viable alternativein this scenario.
Thank you

TheManOnTheStreet

I said I could. I've outlined it. You choose to ignore it as you're not open to alternative solutions to problems

juan

No you chose not to elaborate with actual details when asked. See post 184 if you'd like to continue

Bajie

This is wasting bandwidth now.

Can we agree to differ.

juan

Sure

TheManOnTheStreet

..but you're happy enough to threaten someone with violence when no threat of violence was made to you.

That's a thug. A bully.

PiNkEyE69

looks like either emma or victor will be booted out if they can't resolve things...

"In a statement issued this morning, Channel 4 said that producers have postponed tonight's planned eviction until next Friday. A spokesman explained: "The housemates are continuing to work through their differences and producers wish to give them sufficient time to come to a resolution as a group.

In other news, Emma and Victor will be given the opportunity to meet later today away from the rest of the group "to discuss their relationship." One can only assume that should the meeting be unsuccessful, one or both will be leaving the house later tonight."

fast bloke

so mental abuse is OK, but threat of physical violence (which is mental abuse until you follow it up) is not?

OllyK

As I see it there are 3 base options:
1) Ignore the mess and carry on with your business.
2) Clean the mess yourself.
3) Get the people responsible to clean the mess.

Option 1 shows a certain lack of self respect and standards in my opinion if you are prepared to live in the **** that others have generated. Option 2 would be seen as a sign of weakness, so that the others could trash the place as much as they like knowing you will sort it out, as BB is a GAME, this isn't really the situation you want to be in. This leaves option 3.

With kids, or in more normal situations you have a graduated escalation process where you initially request and then move on to greater and greater threats, Stay in your room, you are getting no tea, no TV for a week, stopping pocket money etc etc.

Once the request to clean up was igonored, there weren't many levels that the threats could escalate through due to the situation they are all in. The other big thing with a threat is that somebody may call your bluff, so you need to be prepared to carry them through or provide a threat that is sufficiently intimidating that the other person is unlikely to take the risk. Jay did that, and it suceeded without the need to carry it out. Job's a good 'un!!

juan

During the fight Victor was actually trying to stop the initial fighting. Bit harsh if he goes.
Get rid of thick Emma, after all she incited him with a racial slur
They have to dump her if its one or the other or else all interest will go and that whats they're after in the end. viewers.

juan

valid point

TheManOnTheStreet

Who was the one who lost their cool over it?

Bajie

So bullying is only physical.
Your argument just lost credibility.
Marco WAS bullying Jason.

No way Emma and Victor can kiss and make up.
He's too much of a gangsta wannabe. It will be too great a loss of face for him.

Edit
I really am a slow typer. Started this after PinkEye!

TheManOnTheStreet

No, he wasn't. He wasn't threatning to harm Jason.
Jason was threatning physical harm. That's bullying.

fast bloke

he was mentally abusing him by 'winding him up' or irritating him

Diablo

I would venture that TMOTS would bend over and let Marco take him up the ****

juan

also she would just do exactly the same in an instant

Diablo

There are many forms of bullying, threatening physical harm is just one.

fast bloke

PMSL