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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 12:46 PM
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! can a 2 litre do that?Thanks David, a cutter and a drill is cheaper than a set of headers.Especially when the head gaskets have just gone...
While you are on David, can you change the head gaskets without removing the engine?
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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 01:45 PM
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From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
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not really.

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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 01:53 PM
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I am also going to buy some gruppe-s headers. Has anyone had any problems fitting them to a H+S 2" solid up-pipe? They have not answered my email yet.

George


Hi George

We haven't recieved any e-mails from you regarding the up pipe,if you pm me i will answer it straight away.

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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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For those of us using the orginal Gruppe-S headers and having problems what can you suggest ?

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Old Jun 3, 2004 | 11:02 PM
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Sorry Scoobyexhausts, that was meant to say Gruppe-s aren't answering e-mail. Have been using your up-pipe for a while now with no problems at all.

David,

Why do you recommend staying with the standard headers? I have also ported them myself.
This is the proposed set up

550 inj
Uprated pump and reg
APS FMIC
old style ss/h+s 2.5" system inc up pipe
TD05/06 20g
Gruppe-s headers
Re map by PE via Chiptorque ecu board (allready fitted, 98 uk car)

I have been advised that I would need the headers to get anywhere near the 400 mark @ 1.4 bar.Standard ported ones would require more boost which may be to much for my standard engine

Still unsure, headers or no headers? Help!!!!!

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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 06:57 AM
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GB we are all in the same boat! DB5 is there too...
There are a lot of Groppe headers out there it seems, but the version 2 (current design) are better. Seems to me you need to watch the up-pipe as much as anything else for leak free reliability.
Got to do my leaking head gaskets first...
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 07:56 AM
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We only make the up-pipe with a double slip joint in,this moves very slight with the heat expansion and as far as i am aware i haven't heard any problems with gaskets blowing.We have been making quite a few spacer plates for the gruppe-s up pipes to try to eliminate the problem.I think this was Harvey answer to his problem.

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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 10:29 AM
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George,

I am using v2 Gruppe-S headers (cast collector) with the older H&S solid uppipe and have had no problems at all, fit was perfect from the outset. Only thing I have done (like many others) is to only fit 1 of the turbo to engine/gearbox brackets to allow a little more movement.

IMHO the advice about using turbular headers to achieve your goal (~400bhp@1.4bar) is correct.

Andrew...
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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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Is it a straight forward job to port the OE headers yourself? Or is there someone supplying them already done?

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Old Jun 4, 2004 | 05:07 PM
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Andrew,

Thanks for that, I think i will give them a go.

Orange,

I ported my own standard headers using a small grinding wheel in the fastest speed power drill I could find, took a while but done the job. It is recomended that you use a die grinder and TCT cutter. When you remove the standard headers and have a look it becomes obvous what you have to do.

There is a few photos and a thread on here somewhere which explains things in more detail.

George
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