ozzy

But that was only a test. AFAIK, they've never used them for a seasons GP.

Stefan

Spoon

Jason- That wasn't even my quote, have you asked John for the right to attribute it to me?

I'm also surprised as a lawnmower driver (read budding F1) that you thought F1's had brake lights!!

I shan't tell the establishment.

Spoon

I suppose that's fairly close to a statement taken from the book of "eating humble pie".

Regarding your karting, Say to yourself. 1 back 4 forward, 1 back 4 forward and it'll come.

Oh unless you go all out and then it's 1 back 5 forward.

Spoon

No confusion Jason, just spent many years teasing the Rotax Max brigade.

johnfelstead

crap, do you want me to list all the things that were tried and then dropped during testing? We would be here for months.

Mungo

F1 cars have no brake lights. And they won't be getting them. They do have a red light a) for use in wet conditions, and b)flashes when the pit lane speed limiter is activated.
Racing (and kart, etc) drivers know roughly when each other will brake as braking points for each will be roughly the same for each corner. The braking point for the chicane at Monaco is not mid-way through the tunnel - hence Montoya wasn't expecting Schu to brake where he did.
From the in-tunnel camera, it seemed that Schu was locked up for longer than a moment. I think he had dropped back from the SC to give himself a run-up to braking hard, but the SC had noticed him dropping back and also slowed. Thus Schu found the SC travelling slowly in the middle of the tunnel and nailed the brakes. Meanwhile Montoya had seen Schu accelerate away and floored his throttle, only to almost immediately find Schu locked up in front of him. The resultant collision had become unavoidable.

Mungo

If you were Schumacher would you have braked hard in the tunnel?
Knowing that it's pretty much blind (more due to the radius of the bend than the darkness)?
I think he just got caught out. He is usually the master at things like that, but sadly it bit him on the bum yesterday.
Montoya's not the only one to have found cars moving unexpectedly slowly on the racing line - didn't Schu hit Coulthard from behind in torrential rain at Spa a couple of years ago?

Scoobs_4ever

Wasn't it MS that drove into the back of someone on the auotbahn a few years ago. Didn't see the big read brake lights or something like that??

Wish

iTrader: (2)

Forget the plonker in his big red car ;-)

What about the marshells ??? They were all mad ! standing and waving yellows 1/3 on the track !!!!

Mad or what !

*Sonic*

especially the marshall who dropped his flag, so couldnt wave at the oncoming cars !!

Anyway, I dont recall seeing Montoya braking in the tunnel, perhaps he thought 'nows my chance' its that dark in here, no one will see me run him off the road'

Interesting that DC commented that Sato Jump Started, yet nothing was said about that, or the fact that he shunted Schuey out of the way (a brave move but could have been disastrous, causing a multiple car pile up on the start (was exciting to watch tho)

and WTF was Fizzy doing, he must have seen that smoke, IMHO he should be penalised for that

And Quote of the day by Kimi ' What Accident'

Move of the day 'Alonso giving Ralph the bird in mid accident, sliding backwards into the armco'

Just a shame that Jenson didnt get the win, roll on the next one