talizman

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58%

Chris L

Easy - they are not an online trader. Autoebid is a go between in effect. The idea is that dealers bid for your business - sort of a dutch auction. The price quoted on Autoebid is the maximum you will pay. It is entirely possible that it could be lower if you get two dealers bidding for your business.

So once you accept the price, the order will be placed in your name via the main dealer - so it is possible (infact, almost certain) that a discount can be negotiated. There are very few cars on the market where no discount is available.

Chris

scoobynutta555

58.62%

Now that I have made the effort to work it out

What car online have the new stis at 52% and the Porsche 2.7s at 71%

No figs for the WR1 as far as I can see.

Neil Smalley

Last thing my dealer said re resuduals was that IM themselves did'nt have any residual figures for the WR1(E.g to calculate a guaranteed future value figure).

I guess A lot of the WR1 figures depends on if the 05 STI uk will have DCCD-A and the same PPP as the WR1.

Clive the Brave

You will find that all dealers for Subaru have little sweetners.
These been................
if IM have loads of Foresters (example) that they need to get shot of and the more dealers sold the higher up the ladder.
My dealer has been a good little boy and they have the 2nd WR1 this week, Mine :>)

There was another sceam going for the P1 at the time which did not help some dealers, because if they did not sign up then they did not get the cars.

Stops all bogus car orders.
http://www.autoebid.com/newSelectCl...75094&other=193
Load of Coblers.
Could be the South African car, which does not have the Performance Pack fitted here in the uk after the car has been reg to the new owner, taxed, insured.
Mine is number 97.

If your worried about the residual price on any car, then you should not bother getting on.

Stick with a Micra and leave the big boys and their toys to play play play

Scooby-Monster

When all the fuss has died down a bit in a few years time about "the new WR1", the colour of the car will possibly hinder re-sale value. This was never an issue with the P1. Though if you love ice blue this will not be a problem.

scoobynutta555

Agreed, colour won't help it at all.

MattW

Have to agree, it seems to be a love it or hate it colour, although for the life of me I can't think why anyone would like it.

It's not that the colour is unattractive, I don't think it suits the car......a Toyota Yaris maybe but not a 30k performance car.

Before I get flamed, and cue the "Well actually I like it" statements, this is my personal opinion and I respect the fact that some people obviously love it.

I've recently got out of the scooby scene because the residuals for the Sti are horrendous, too many big discounts being made. I really hope the guys that have bought WR1's see strong residuals in 2-3 years time, and for their sake IM\Subaru resist the temptation to release a WR Blue\Black etc Sti with Dccd-A etc in 12-18 months.

However on the basis that the standard Sti + extras makes 30k or thereabouts, I believe IM WILL release a Dccd-A specced car shortly. Anyone who complains will be told that the list price equates to the extras added to a standard Sti.

scoobynutta555

For some the perfect scooby would be a bug eye in WR1 colour

scooby-tc

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Personally i think your much better off buying a 3 year old car each time you want to upgrade.You will have a lot more money in your pocket only problem is you will have to wait 3 years for todays car but think of the money ud save
just my opinion (oh and the colour sucks too)

Clive the Brave

I was like this about the colour as well, that was until I was there in person.
Everything about the car just makes me weak at the knees.
The only think that stinks are the stickers either side of the car, mine are coming off.

I don't think there's gonig to be a problem in the future re-selling the car.
Only 500/499 they are not doing a number 13 against the 1000 P1's.
Unless you have one of these cars why would you be bothered, and it seems that everyone that is getting a WR1 are NOT !!!!! bothered, it's you other guys who are not getting one bitch about everything other than your own car.

So what if we loose money, thats life and it's cheeper than kids and not to forget a lot cheeper than a wife as well.

:>)

pbee

I allways buy cars with cash (maybe cheque) but never finance. So I look at what the car is going to cost me for real over the lifetime of ownership. and weigh up the fun factor accordingly. I dont have 30k bulging my wallet so im not in a position to look at a wr1.

To me the Wr1 could turn into another Uk300, at the moment there is the 320ps (i think) and the dccd which you could not put onto a uk-sti. Everything else is either out of the parts bin or in the "why the hell would you want that anyway" category.

but in a years 2 years 3 years time, these will probably be standard if not improved upon on the normal sti-uk. So possibly in one year the wr1 will be worth a lot less than the list price of a type uk with PPP. thats dropping a potential 5k in 1 year.

The wr1 is not unique enough to be in the same position as the P1 and the rb5, they had something very different and still do, they are unique among other UK impreza's. The WR1 will not be.

but if you are buying a Wr1 do it for the right reason do it because you like the car and you want the best available UK model that you will enjoy not bitch about how much money you lost on it. Its a bit like high class hookers really, you will have the ride of your life but would you complain about how much it cost you ???.

if it was me I would probably go for a jap import sti9 GL or a spec c dpendant on my choices at the time possibly even look for a used one, pocket the rest of the cash for other frivolous activities.

scooby-tc

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Im more than happy with a car that costs a third of the value of a WR1 with similar performance figures i'll save my 20k for optimax

scoobynutta555

Of course it wont be a problem selling the car. Depends on what price its up for You have to think not just about the 500 people that are buying the car, but the market in people buying one second hand.

Everybody hates *losing* money. I dont think its a jealous thing at all, just a word of warning against residuals. The uk300 is a prime example of a special edition falling flat on its face residual wise.

If you have the money for a new WR1 I would suggest you look a 22b No worries on residuals there at all, you might even make some

Clive the Brave

I know what you mean, but the 22b is getting a little old for me.
I need the warrenty 3 years, my last scooby pushed a con rod out of the block, costing a fortune. So this time it's all about warrenty, performance and looks....... who cares about loosing ££££££££ life is to short and with no finance I should give me time to recover and save for a Nobal convertable in a couple of years......... unless Scooby produces something extra spesh that rocks my boat :>)

scoobynutta555

Get a P1 then that has lost all the money that it will lose. Youll find them for sale with original warranty still, or you can extend for 2 years

You can then get your Noble earlier than expected and not worry about losing money

After all the P1 held its own against the WR1 in the evo review.

ozzy

Chris L,

I can see "how" it might work, but with a special edition run that's supposed to be controlled by the Dealer network / IM, I can hardly see them needing to get auction business unless they can't sell them. I'd like to see someone actually pay that little money for one first.

Stefan

Clive the Brave

To late for changes now, got the word my WR1 is ready for pickup
this Weds. Nobal will have to wait for the grin factor to finish, should be 2/3 years.

Oh, not to forget the new car smell, thats got to be worth 30K

WR1 Bro

I personally think you'll love it! Can't wait for mine!

hawkeye

I paid £32,000 for my MY02 sti in June 2002 I KNOW its taken a hit but im keeping it until its probably 4 years old so by then the depreciation curve will have lessend and ill be due for a change. The residuals on a WR1 WOULD NOT be a major factor in me deceiding to buy one of not though.......... it all helps tho

ozzy

32K for an STI what the heck did you add to the std car?

So, anyone who has bought a WR1, did you consider any other car in that price range?

Stefan

MattW

32k - I guess it was 27k for a prodrive version. 2k for PPP, 1800 for wheels, mats, flaps etc would have you at 32k without too much trouble - assuming there was no discount.

ozzy

****, that's expensive. Don't they give you a trade-in for your old wheels if you upgrade before delivery?

Given that Subaru charge £300 for some bits of plastic , I can see where the money goes. Makes a WR1 look cheap.

Clive the Brave

I took the Evo FQ 300 out and found it difficult finding the grear I wanted, not to mention the trim sucks in the Evo.
Looked at TVR, Porche, BMW M3, Nobal.
I do need another £15k if I was to go for that somehting different.
I'm going to be more than happy with the WR1 for a couple of years.

Again I need the 3 years warrenty, otherwise I would have looked at the Type 25

WR1 Bro

TYPE 25 - Considered it but wanted the 3 year SUBARU warranty too.

hawkeye

I bought the car from a UK dealer and it came as it is now Car was fully loaded with circa 320 bhp Leather Sat Nav DVD and a host of goodies, unfortunately when i first posted regarding it I GOT FLAMED big time, then i let things die down a bit and hey presto along comes a WR1 with 320 bhp.............. seems like i wasnt so stupid after all... and this was JUNE 2002!!!!!!!!!!!!

hawk

PS forgot to mention it ISNT the prodrive version either!!!!!!!!!1

scoobynutta555

where does it get 'circa' 320 bhp from

hawkeye

it was a dealer stated figure 300-320 bhp as i havent had it on a rolling road yet I have however compared it back to back with a PPP'd sti and there is a difference albeit it slight..


anyways im not wanting to hijack the thread just saying that i realise my car will lose a lot of money (dont most of them) and im prepared for it

greasemonkey

Of course. Like any investment, there's little guarantee.

That was a bit of a unique case and I think it's one IM have learned something from. For starters, it wasn't really a "special edition" at all, it was a bog standard WRX with some parts bin bits, a couple of cheap badges and some embroidery. The cars were already here, weren't moving, so IM simply stuck on a load of bits they had in their parts bin, and lo and behold, the UK300 was born.

At least the WR1 offers a package genuinely unobtainable in any other UK dealer Impreza, and that should enable it to hold up better than the UK300 did.

True, but it's not like there're 500 of those available. Unless you're talking about the Type UK's, you won't be able to get them serviced at a regular Subaru dealer either, which isn't a problem with a WR1.

Nick

Nice insult to 500 fellow Scooby owners eh?
Why a "so-called" special edition?

Phoning Tileys in Bristol, they have sold all their allocation & have a further 8 cars sold & have taken deposits above their allocation. All popular dealers I have called have this situation to a certain extent. My dealer in Poole have sold only 2 of their allocation mainly becauser they are a brand new dealer. Car #1 is a demo & car #2 is mine. They chose to use a WR1 as a demo because Subaru offered them a good deal as a new dealer. I think that the WR1 counts as an extra demo above their regular demo car allocation.

WR1=30k

STi=25k, PPP=2k, 18" FF7=1.8k, Spring kit=0.2k, =29k +1k for DCCD & rarity