The BNP?
06 April 2004, 10:50 AM
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Damn - the BNP have my vote!! If you removed the racist aspect from it, I don't have too many issues with most of their polices, just not too sure how they would actually fund it!
06 April 2004, 11:06 AM
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As I say, take the racial element out of it and the domestic policy isn't half bad. The foreign policy is somewhat lacking IMO, liable to leave us on the sidelines somewhat.
06 April 2004, 11:12 AM
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This is what they stand for
IMMIGRATION - time to say NO!
EUROPE - back to British independence!
LAW AND ORDER - crack down on crime!
ECONOMY - British workers first!
EDUCATION - discipline, standards, achievement!
AGRICULTURE - quality before quantity!
HEALTH - first-class healthcare for all!
TRANSPORT - time to invest!
ENVIRONMENT - NO to pollution!
FOREIGN AID - time to spend our money on our own people!
PENSIONERS - pensioners before asylum seekers!
NORTHERN IRELAND - NO to sectarianism!
DEFENCE - no more cuts!
FOREIGN AFFAIRS - Britain's interests first!
DEMOCRACY - letting the people decide!
Have to say I dont agree with the "FOREIGN AID - time to spend our money on our own people!" policy and I dont think yo can just say no to imigariton but somthing does have to be done to reduce it.
But the rest seem fine to me
IMMIGRATION - time to say NO!
EUROPE - back to British independence!
LAW AND ORDER - crack down on crime!
ECONOMY - British workers first!
EDUCATION - discipline, standards, achievement!
AGRICULTURE - quality before quantity!
HEALTH - first-class healthcare for all!
TRANSPORT - time to invest!
ENVIRONMENT - NO to pollution!
FOREIGN AID - time to spend our money on our own people!
PENSIONERS - pensioners before asylum seekers!
NORTHERN IRELAND - NO to sectarianism!
DEFENCE - no more cuts!
FOREIGN AFFAIRS - Britain's interests first!
DEMOCRACY - letting the people decide!
Have to say I dont agree with the "FOREIGN AID - time to spend our money on our own people!" policy and I dont think yo can just say no to imigariton but somthing does have to be done to reduce it.
But the rest seem fine to me
06 April 2004, 11:25 AM
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Funny thing about being a racist is that few people actually admit to it!
In the same way that you dont hear anyone say 'I dont have a sense of humour' or 'I'm a crap driver and I'm rubbish in bed'.
The problem with the BNP is they appeal to people's misguided insecurities that everything that is wrong with their lives/soceity must be someone elses fault. Its a very seductive theory and one of the reasons that Hitler did so well for a while. 'We can make ourselves great by just removing this sector of soceity!'
When things are crap its easy to blame someone else.
Fortunately, despite what certain people will have you beleive, our economy is in far too healthy a state for narrow-minded opportunists like the BNP to ever make any headway.
Immigration is an important issue but is not quite the 'epidemic disaster waiting to happen' that some scaremongerers would have you beleive!!
Dont hate someone because of their colour! there are far more important reasons to hate people than that!!
True racisim is a sympton of self-loathing and dissatisfaction with your own life.
In the same way that you dont hear anyone say 'I dont have a sense of humour' or 'I'm a crap driver and I'm rubbish in bed'.
The problem with the BNP is they appeal to people's misguided insecurities that everything that is wrong with their lives/soceity must be someone elses fault. Its a very seductive theory and one of the reasons that Hitler did so well for a while. 'We can make ourselves great by just removing this sector of soceity!'
When things are crap its easy to blame someone else.
Fortunately, despite what certain people will have you beleive, our economy is in far too healthy a state for narrow-minded opportunists like the BNP to ever make any headway.
Immigration is an important issue but is not quite the 'epidemic disaster waiting to happen' that some scaremongerers would have you beleive!!
Dont hate someone because of their colour! there are far more important reasons to hate people than that!!
True racisim is a sympton of self-loathing and dissatisfaction with your own life.
06 April 2004, 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FrenchBoy
Funny thing about being a racist is that few people actually admit to it!
In the same way that you dont hear anyone say 'I dont have a sense of humour' or 'I'm a crap driver and I'm rubbish in bed'.
The problem with the BNP is they appeal to people's misguided insecurities that everything that is wrong with their lives/soceity must be someone elses fault. Its a very seductive theory and one of the reasons that Hitler did so well for a while. 'We can make ourselves great by just removing this sector of soceity!'
When things are crap its easy to blame someone else.
Fortunately, despite what certain people will have you beleive, our economy is in far too healthy a state for narrow-minded opportunists like the BNP to ever make any headway.
Immigration is an important issue but is not quite the 'epidemic disaster waiting to happen' that some scaremongerers would have you beleive!!
Dont hate someone because of their colour! there are far more important reasons to hate people than that!!
True racisim is a sympton of self-loathing and dissatisfaction with your own life.
In the same way that you dont hear anyone say 'I dont have a sense of humour' or 'I'm a crap driver and I'm rubbish in bed'.
The problem with the BNP is they appeal to people's misguided insecurities that everything that is wrong with their lives/soceity must be someone elses fault. Its a very seductive theory and one of the reasons that Hitler did so well for a while. 'We can make ourselves great by just removing this sector of soceity!'
When things are crap its easy to blame someone else.
Fortunately, despite what certain people will have you beleive, our economy is in far too healthy a state for narrow-minded opportunists like the BNP to ever make any headway.
Immigration is an important issue but is not quite the 'epidemic disaster waiting to happen' that some scaremongerers would have you beleive!!
Dont hate someone because of their colour! there are far more important reasons to hate people than that!!
True racisim is a sympton of self-loathing and dissatisfaction with your own life.
I hope this thread continues with the intelligent commentaries and not with slanging matches...
06 April 2004, 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by FrenchBoy
Funny thing about being a racist is that few people actually admit to it!
In the same way that you dont hear anyone say 'I dont have a sense of humour' or 'I'm a crap driver and I'm rubbish in bed'.
The problem with the BNP is they appeal to people's misguided insecurities that everything that is wrong with their lives/soceity must be someone elses fault. Its a very seductive theory and one of the reasons that Hitler did so well for a while. 'We can make ourselves great by just removing this sector of soceity!'
When things are crap its easy to blame someone else.
Fortunately, despite what certain people will have you beleive, our economy is in far too healthy a state for narrow-minded opportunists like the BNP to ever make any headway.
Immigration is an important issue but is not quite the 'epidemic disaster waiting to happen' that some scaremongerers would have you beleive!!
Dont hate someone because of their colour! there are far more important reasons to hate people than that!!
True racisim is a sympton of self-loathing and dissatisfaction with your own life.
In the same way that you dont hear anyone say 'I dont have a sense of humour' or 'I'm a crap driver and I'm rubbish in bed'.
The problem with the BNP is they appeal to people's misguided insecurities that everything that is wrong with their lives/soceity must be someone elses fault. Its a very seductive theory and one of the reasons that Hitler did so well for a while. 'We can make ourselves great by just removing this sector of soceity!'
When things are crap its easy to blame someone else.
Fortunately, despite what certain people will have you beleive, our economy is in far too healthy a state for narrow-minded opportunists like the BNP to ever make any headway.
Immigration is an important issue but is not quite the 'epidemic disaster waiting to happen' that some scaremongerers would have you beleive!!
Dont hate someone because of their colour! there are far more important reasons to hate people than that!!
True racisim is a sympton of self-loathing and dissatisfaction with your own life.
If that does'nt make you feel racist then nothing will!!!
06 April 2004, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
Which paper 
Are you just as dissatisfied with hooligans wearing 'our' flag or england football shirts smashing up places and people?
Are you just as dissatisfied with hooligans wearing 'our' flag or england football shirts smashing up places and people?
06 April 2004, 11:44 AM
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"The problem with the BNP is they appeal to people's misguided insecurities that everything that is wrong with their lives/soceity must be someone elses fault. Its a very seductive theory and one of the reasons that Hitler did so well for a while. 'We can make ourselves great by just removing this sector of soceity!"
Surely the worrying factor is that they do! With something like 42% of the population NOT voting in the last election, apathy & 'I cant change anything' attitudes are rife; politics is supposed to reflect all aspects of our life; it quite obviously is not at the moment, analogies to Hitler are just as 'scaremongering' as references to 'immigration issues' many people fully recognise change is needed without resorting to parties such as the BNP.
Surely the worrying factor is that they do! With something like 42% of the population NOT voting in the last election, apathy & 'I cant change anything' attitudes are rife; politics is supposed to reflect all aspects of our life; it quite obviously is not at the moment, analogies to Hitler are just as 'scaremongering' as references to 'immigration issues' many people fully recognise change is needed without resorting to parties such as the BNP.
06 April 2004, 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
Which paper
Are you just as dissatisfied with hooligans wearing 'our' flag or england football shirts smashing up places and people?
Are you just as dissatisfied with hooligans wearing 'our' flag or england football shirts smashing up places and people?
06 April 2004, 11:51 AM
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'The BNP are out and out racist scum, so is anyone who votes for them.
If you get involved as an activist at least the govt will know who you are and have you labelled as a ****. That has to be a good thing. '
I think these sort of comments just make the situation worse. WTF has nazism got to do with it? No wonder British people get so wound up when ppl call you a racist just for having an opinion!!! aren't you being the prejudiced one now NACRO? silly sod u r LOL. Some of their policies do make sense(NOT ALL) on crime and order.
After seeing that programme last night on extremist muslims promoting terrorism on our doorstep etc, is it any wonder these parties are getting more votes????? Just a thought mind
If you get involved as an activist at least the govt will know who you are and have you labelled as a ****. That has to be a good thing. '
I think these sort of comments just make the situation worse. WTF has nazism got to do with it? No wonder British people get so wound up when ppl call you a racist just for having an opinion!!! aren't you being the prejudiced one now NACRO? silly sod u r LOL. Some of their policies do make sense(NOT ALL) on crime and order.
After seeing that programme last night on extremist muslims promoting terrorism on our doorstep etc, is it any wonder these parties are getting more votes????? Just a thought mind
06 April 2004, 11:52 AM
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How can that be in any way the same as burning a flag, they wear those shirts with pride, no matter how misguided it may be.
I'm not criticising people wearing the flag or shirt with pride but rather what some members are doing whilst 'representing' the country.
06 April 2004, 11:58 AM
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Originally Posted by King RA
as opposed to flying planes into buildings? unfortunaltely they are not representing a country, but a belief.
They are happy to live here themselves and yet they still attack us!!!
06 April 2004, 11:59 AM
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No wonder British people get so wound up when ppl call you a racist just for having an opinion
No one is being called a racist for merely having an opinion. They WILL be called racist however, if that opinion is in itself racist. If the opinion is not racist then they won't. Simple.
06 April 2004, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
I assume you are including all british muslims, jews, hindus etc. in that statement?
No one is being called a racist for merely having an opinion. They WILL be called racist however, if that opinion is in itself racist. If the opinion is not racist then they won't. Simple.
No one is being called a racist for merely having an opinion. They WILL be called racist however, if that opinion is in itself racist. If the opinion is not racist then they won't. Simple.
Unfortunatley the opinion of thinking immigration is a problem seems to be one that brands you a racist. So it's not that simple.
06 April 2004, 12:05 PM
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'I assume you are including all british muslims, jews, hindus etc. in that statement?'
Don't patronize me please dracoro. You sound like a kindergarten teacher 
British= ppl born here. That good enuff or is it a Racist opinion???
Don't patronize me please dracoro. You sound like a kindergarten teacher
British= ppl born here. That good enuff or is it a Racist opinion???
06 April 2004, 12:05 PM
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So are you saying all people who burn british flags are terrorists?
I'm personally disgusted by ALL those who burn our flags, fly planes into buildings, hooligans wearing our shirts etc. Obviously disgusted more by terrorists than football hooligans who are more disgusting than protesters burning flags. All of these people are in the wrong.
I'm personally disgusted by ALL those who burn our flags, fly planes into buildings, hooligans wearing our shirts etc. Obviously disgusted more by terrorists than football hooligans who are more disgusting than protesters burning flags. All of these people are in the wrong.
06 April 2004, 12:07 PM
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'True racisim is a sympton of self-loathing and dissatisfaction with your own life.'
There speaks the voice of a typical white middle class NIMBY.
So long as it doesnt bother me im all right jack.
The poor should put up and shut up
what a load of cack
There speaks the voice of a typical white middle class NIMBY.
So long as it doesnt bother me im all right jack.
The poor should put up and shut up
what a load of cack
06 April 2004, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Dracoro
So are you saying all people who burn british flags are terrorists?
I'm personally disgusted by ALL those who burn our flags, fly planes into buildings, hooligans wearing our shirts etc. Obviously disgusted more by terrorists than football hooligans who are more disgusting than protesters burning flags. All of these people are in the wrong.
I'm personally disgusted by ALL those who burn our flags, fly planes into buildings, hooligans wearing our shirts etc. Obviously disgusted more by terrorists than football hooligans who are more disgusting than protesters burning flags. All of these people are in the wrong.
06 April 2004, 12:09 PM
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Wasn't patronising you PP 
Just wanted to know if you considered them british? Which you obviously do (if they were born here of course).
Incidentally I wasn't born here. My parents were born here, I've got a british passport, I've lived here ever since I was 1 year old but do you still consider me british because I wasn't born here?
Just wanted to know if you considered them british? Which you obviously do (if they were born here of course). Incidentally I wasn't born here. My parents were born here, I've got a british passport, I've lived here ever since I was 1 year old but do you still consider me british because I wasn't born here?
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'Obviously disgusted more by terrorists than football hooligans who are more disgusting than protesters burning flags. All of these people are in the wrong.'
LMAO Dracoro Asif we didn't know that statement??? Stop patronising us plz
LMAO Dracoro
Asif we didn't know that statement??? Stop patronising us plz