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Old 29 March 2004, 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by greasemonkey
Funnily enough there's a 6R4 being rallied somewhere around the UK with a Sierra Cosworth turbo engine in it. Bl**dy weird when you see it coming, but just don't associate the noise with it. It's almost like your head thinks the 6R4 is completely silent, and there's a turbocharged car following a few metres behind it!
Cossie engined 6r4 here, it's front engined though...

http://www.johnstonsofcatrine.com

In Scotland we're lucky to have several 6r4's running in the Scottish rally championship, amazing sounding cars and still competitive after all these years...

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Old 29 March 2004, 12:24 PM
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Saw one a few years ago at one of the local single venues and he had a V8 stuffed in it. Sounded fit
Old 29 March 2004, 12:33 PM
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Having owned a brand new, no miles 6R4 I can vouch for their superb sound.
Old 29 March 2004, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Brun
The official record stood at 3.175s IIRC
my mistake, took that off of some site ages ago.

look at this link for some rs200 specs, man i want one. http://www.i-club.com/forums/showthr...5&pagenumber=3

they know how to build proper rally cars for the road back then, the 6r4 is the only metro that people respect, and what a beast
Old 30 March 2004, 12:05 PM
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Nice RS200 for sale here
http://www.carclassic.com/html/BD52.htm

Or a 205 T16
http://www.carclassic.com/html/DL75.htm

Some Very Nice Lancias
Lancia Delta S4 Group B
http://www.carclassic.com/html/BI78.htm
Lancia Stratos Group 4 Sliding Injection
http://www.carclassic.com/html/DL78.htm

A lovely little 6R4
http://www.carclassic.com/html/DL78.htm

The ultimate... Audi Quattro Sport S1 Group B
http://www.carclassic.com/html/AF62.htm

And although its not group B I still fancy one of these
http://www.carclassic.com/html/DG86.htm

Shane
Old 30 March 2004, 12:14 PM
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quote: Funnily enough there's a 6R4 being rallied somewhere around the UK with a Sierra Cosworth turbo engine in it

Unless there are several (which there probably are), the chap across the road from me has it - well, that's what his rally car is anyway - in blue and white. he also has a scoob type ra for his non rally weekend toy

Old 31 March 2004, 10:49 AM
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Bit of a site here by a 6R4 nutter - www.6r4.info and loads of pictures here:

Pictures here: http://www.xpower-mg.com/gallery/sho...assword=&page=

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Old 31 March 2004, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by IPKIS
the Rs200 was the daddy out of alll of them i think its still in the guiness book of records as the fastest 0-60 of a road car 3.1 seconds
Nah the fastest 0-60 for a road car is 2.96 seconds in a Tiger? dual huyabusa bike engined kit car, AWD, 400bhp, done by Tiff Needel. It was on 5th gear last year.
Old 31 March 2004, 11:19 AM
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you have to admit the 6r4 looks prehistoric, i mean something like an integrale you could live with, old but still looks good, mk2 escort even, the quattro anything but the 6r4....scarey!
Old 31 March 2004, 11:26 AM
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Horses for courses, but the 6R4 is faster than the EVO to 60, plus the sound it makes is unbelievable.

I say EVO, cause I've driven one. A Scoob could be faster!
Old 31 March 2004, 11:27 AM
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Shane's quoted RS200 is up for about 70 000 euros (45 UK grand). Yet it's a 250bhp model, which according to Brun does 0-60 in 6 secs. Rip-off IMHO. Someone's trading on the reputation.
Old 31 March 2004, 11:32 AM
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RS200 is so easily tuned though (as is the 6R4) to 400bhp. Current EVO's and Scoobs are but at a cost. Yes the RS200 trades on reputation, but what a reputation?

Plus the 6R4 motor doesn't rely on a Turbo so its power is instantaneous!
Old 31 March 2004, 02:27 PM
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Well that's killed it!
Old 31 March 2004, 02:29 PM
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Quick thought. Insurance being hideous on a scoob and evo. What the hell would it cost to insure a road going group B rally car?
Old 31 March 2004, 02:51 PM
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Likelihood of it being nicked - almost zero.

Cost to repair that non-standard bodywork - ouch!

(Mind, it's fibreglass, so out with the Isopon kit!)

Jerry, I never saw the engine spec of the 6R4 that was offered for 25k a few weeks ago, but I'd say it was a bit better value than double the price for something not much faster than a Boxster 2.7! You could get a 400bhp skyline for that money!
Old 31 March 2004, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerry Flint
RS200 is so easily tuned though (as is the 6R4) to 400bhp. Current EVO's and Scoobs are but at a cost. Yes the RS200 trades on reputation, but what a reputation?

Plus the 6R4 motor doesn't rely on a Turbo so its power is instantaneous!
rs200's reputation isnt very good!!

didnt really win anything, then got banned!!
Old 31 March 2004, 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Brendan Hughes
Likelihood of it being nicked - almost zero.

Cost to repair that non-standard bodywork - ouch!

(Mind, it's fibreglass, so out with the Isopon kit!)

Jerry, I never saw the engine spec of the 6R4 that was offered for 25k a few weeks ago, but I'd say it was a bit better value than double the price for something not much faster than a Boxster 2.7! You could get a 400bhp skyline for that money!
6R4 insurance (limited mileage) £300pa
EVO VIII FQ300 - £850

6R4 standard clubman is aluminium, metal, fibreglass on a spaceframe chassis (now has some Carbon in it). The fibreglass is the add on bits. Inside its standard MG Metro (includes carpets and ciggarette lighter).

Colin McRaes is mostly Carbon and cost in excess of £100k to build.

The car accelerates very quickly (top end is rev limited to 9500). Mine as its a standard clubman engine is 300 bhp (shortly to be fitted with a International FI kit and then should make 350bhp). Colin McRaes revs to nearly 12k.

However the cost of a 2.5 litre revver is £40k (and its not a shortened Buick V8). Same engine is found in XJ220 with Turbos and GrpC cars of the eighties.

It's the noise that's addictive.
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