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11 February 2004, 01:14 PM
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The commission plan should be fixed based on what you personally achieve - if its not I would walk away - my business has 5 levels.
Shaggy - can you drop me a mail your email is blocked to the public.
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Shaggy - can you drop me a mail your email is blocked to the public.
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11 February 2004, 01:38 PM
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Hi all
Just got back from delivering the videos. Beautiful weather in Devon today and lovely blast on my BMW bike.
Back to the business issues.
Imlach - as noted in the Wealth Warning it is illegal to get paid to simply recruit people. Anything like that is pyramid selling which is illegal. To be genuine the profits and earnings must come from the sale of genuine products to end users. I have seen numerous scams in the past that involve charging people extortionate amounts for a crappy plastic wallet as their "business pack" (Tiscali email business - avoid like the pox) or other health food type businesses where you have to buy large stocks from the manufacturer and then recruit people in order to sell them some stock to get your money back.
Reputable businesses do not need any of these scams but it is of course unfortunate that many peoples perception is tainted by the crooks out there. As you rightly state, there are many scams out there and desperate people easily fall for them. Never enter into any agreement without doing LOTS of homework first. As has often been said "If it looks too good to be true then it is".
Things to check with any home based business opportunity are:
1. How long has the company been running? In our case the company is a British PLC, quoted on the Stock Exchange and involved in this business since 1923 (so it ain't selling mobile phones! )
2. What is the initial cost to set up? I think the Direct Selling Agency set a maximum of £100 but some companies try to find ways around this eg the crooks from Tiscali. Our opportunity costs £75 which is £25 of stock and the rest is for the sales aids etc. NB This £75 is the cost price and goes directly to the company - nobody makes a single penny from simply signing anyone up.
3. Capital outlay? Check if the company tries to get you to buy more than you want to or tries to sell you expensive selling aids. I've spend a total of an extra £11 buying signs for my car.
4. Minimum sales targets. Many firms set unrealistic sales targets and you end up buying most of the stuff yourself. Our scheme has no minimum and only requires that you place a single order in a three month period which could be for £1.99 (But then you wouldn't earn much!).
5. Credit risk. Check if you have to help fund the company. Subject to the necessary credit checks, our scheme allows you to order the goods, receive them, deliver to customers and collect the money and only then do you pay the company. If customers don't pay, you hit them, no sorry, you don't hand over the goods and you can send them back to the supplier.
The idea is to build a team as you can't be everywhere at once. Yes, you do get a small commission on your downlines sales. This is the principle of "Residual income". Its the same as any business whatever you are selling, your long term aim is to have a successful business that can still make money even if you break your leg/ go on holiday etc. Every business wants to expand, take on more people, get more customers etc, there is no magic or secret to it. You are right when you say it is boring as the principles are boringly simple, get more people involved to sell more products and make more profit, very boring
The real beauty of it is that each person that joins has the potential to rise as high and as fast as they like. Some of the old American schemes unduly favoured the people who got in early at the expense of those who came later.
My upline is one step away from a mega holiday in Australia if he hits his sales targets. I think this is fantastic because it means he is spending loads of time with me to get our business expanding as it feeds into his. Equally, I will spend a lot of my time helping th epeople downline from me because the only way I can ultimately be successful and have the large incomes shown on the web site (www.growanincome.com (ref AH) ) is by making other people that I sponsor to be successful too.
B2O - Not much more I can add by email etc without sending you the video and then going through it face to face. I will happily send the video to anyone who sends me their name address and telephone number. You can either send me the details by email or leave the details on my mailbox 0117 981 1854.
This better be my last post on the subject or Simon will try to flog me a banner ad.
Just got back from delivering the videos. Beautiful weather in Devon today and lovely blast on my BMW bike.
Back to the business issues.
Imlach - as noted in the Wealth Warning it is illegal to get paid to simply recruit people. Anything like that is pyramid selling which is illegal. To be genuine the profits and earnings must come from the sale of genuine products to end users. I have seen numerous scams in the past that involve charging people extortionate amounts for a crappy plastic wallet as their "business pack" (Tiscali email business - avoid like the pox) or other health food type businesses where you have to buy large stocks from the manufacturer and then recruit people in order to sell them some stock to get your money back.
Reputable businesses do not need any of these scams but it is of course unfortunate that many peoples perception is tainted by the crooks out there. As you rightly state, there are many scams out there and desperate people easily fall for them. Never enter into any agreement without doing LOTS of homework first. As has often been said "If it looks too good to be true then it is".
Things to check with any home based business opportunity are:
1. How long has the company been running? In our case the company is a British PLC, quoted on the Stock Exchange and involved in this business since 1923 (so it ain't selling mobile phones! )
2. What is the initial cost to set up? I think the Direct Selling Agency set a maximum of £100 but some companies try to find ways around this eg the crooks from Tiscali. Our opportunity costs £75 which is £25 of stock and the rest is for the sales aids etc. NB This £75 is the cost price and goes directly to the company - nobody makes a single penny from simply signing anyone up.
3. Capital outlay? Check if the company tries to get you to buy more than you want to or tries to sell you expensive selling aids. I've spend a total of an extra £11 buying signs for my car.
4. Minimum sales targets. Many firms set unrealistic sales targets and you end up buying most of the stuff yourself. Our scheme has no minimum and only requires that you place a single order in a three month period which could be for £1.99 (But then you wouldn't earn much!).
5. Credit risk. Check if you have to help fund the company. Subject to the necessary credit checks, our scheme allows you to order the goods, receive them, deliver to customers and collect the money and only then do you pay the company. If customers don't pay, you hit them, no sorry, you don't hand over the goods and you can send them back to the supplier.
The idea is to build a team as you can't be everywhere at once. Yes, you do get a small commission on your downlines sales. This is the principle of "Residual income". Its the same as any business whatever you are selling, your long term aim is to have a successful business that can still make money even if you break your leg/ go on holiday etc. Every business wants to expand, take on more people, get more customers etc, there is no magic or secret to it. You are right when you say it is boring as the principles are boringly simple, get more people involved to sell more products and make more profit, very boring
The real beauty of it is that each person that joins has the potential to rise as high and as fast as they like. Some of the old American schemes unduly favoured the people who got in early at the expense of those who came later.
My upline is one step away from a mega holiday in Australia if he hits his sales targets. I think this is fantastic because it means he is spending loads of time with me to get our business expanding as it feeds into his. Equally, I will spend a lot of my time helping th epeople downline from me because the only way I can ultimately be successful and have the large incomes shown on the web site (www.growanincome.com (ref AH) ) is by making other people that I sponsor to be successful too.
B2O - Not much more I can add by email etc without sending you the video and then going through it face to face. I will happily send the video to anyone who sends me their name address and telephone number. You can either send me the details by email or leave the details on my mailbox 0117 981 1854.
This better be my last post on the subject or Simon will try to flog me a banner ad.
11 February 2004, 02:11 PM
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Carpaud - so why can't you name the companies or products?
If you did so, I'd be more likely to believe it.....you're just shrouding it in secrecy!!
Why not be open, or is there something to hide?
If you did so, I'd be more likely to believe it.....you're just shrouding it in secrecy!!
Why not be open, or is there something to hide?
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11 February 2004, 02:28 PM
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That's what I mean - if it's the usual suspects of door-to-door selling, then why waste postage on videos etc to tell me that......
Tell people up front what it is they're selling - the secrecy just increases suspicion.
1st rule - if it sounds dodgy, it will be.
Tell people up front what it is they're selling - the secrecy just increases suspicion.
1st rule - if it sounds dodgy, it will be.
11 February 2004, 02:40 PM
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Imlach,
Any suggested reading material for spread betting on the financial markets? Other than the FT.
Not that I can even stump up the money to lay a bet down, but it warrants further investigation if you can make such good returns.
Email me offline if you feel more comfortable.
Roger
Any suggested reading material for spread betting on the financial markets? Other than the FT.
Not that I can even stump up the money to lay a bet down, but it warrants further investigation if you can make such good returns.
Email me offline if you feel more comfortable.
Roger
11 February 2004, 03:46 PM
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I think if you'll read my post it says the company name Manantech take a look at their website or check out the financial performance if you want.... It wasn't clear from your posts that you actually wanted more information....
www.mannatech.com
www.dnb.com (for business information reports)
http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=MTEX&d=t (for share performance)
It wasn't clear from your posts that you actually wanted more information.... www.mannatech.com
www.dnb.com (for business information reports)
http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=MTEX&d=t (for share performance)
11 February 2004, 03:52 PM
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OK, apologies, missed that.
Anyway.....health products.
Hands up who would buy whacky health products off some stranger on your doorstep?
The buyers are as guillible as the vendors
Anyway.....health products.
Hands up who would buy whacky health products off some stranger on your doorstep?
The buyers are as guillible as the vendors
11 February 2004, 04:06 PM
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Ok I'll rise to the baiting.....
How do you know that I 'sell' products on door steps....? you make too many assumptions.......
Wacky health products.....so you are medically qualified too and you've formed your opinion after what a few minutes of looking at a website..... A friend of the family was reccomended by her doctor to try these products - as she was recovering from Cancer
As I said earlier being cynical is ok, infact it is good and healthy - but your just being arrogant now.
I'm off to the gym now so don't feel like I'm snubbing you.....
How do you know that I 'sell' products on door steps....? you make too many assumptions.......
Wacky health products.....so you are medically qualified too and you've formed your opinion after what a few minutes of looking at a website..... A friend of the family was reccomended by her doctor to try these products - as she was recovering from Cancer
As I said earlier being cynical is ok, infact it is good and healthy - but your just being arrogant now.
I'm off to the gym now so don't feel like I'm snubbing you.....
11 February 2004, 04:29 PM
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..and I'm not being arrogant - I'm being realistic.
I wouldn't buy any guff like that from a networked layer system of selling. Stuff like that is usually way overpriced to absorb the 5 layers of commission.
I wouldn't buy any guff like that from a networked layer system of selling. Stuff like that is usually way overpriced to absorb the 5 layers of commission.
11 February 2004, 04:41 PM
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I also don't have any problem with products such as tupperware, anne summers etc...at least you can see what you are buying.......
Health products are on dodgy territory, esp if not medicines as require no proof of benefits!!
Health products are on dodgy territory, esp if not medicines as require no proof of benefits!!
11 February 2004, 04:57 PM
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I've had people try to get me into MLM three times.
The first was NSA that sold water/air filters. Totally not interested because of the set-up costs alone.
The next 2 were Amway. The first time I was introduced to Amway, I went to a presentation and was not convinced. Going to an Amway convention as well was all I needed to put me off this type of business for good. I'm far too cynical to believe the hype. I would even go as far to say the successful Amway people I met seemed like they were in some weird cult.
The second time Amway reared it's ugly head was when a dinner party morphed into an Amway presentation. All of the guests were taken by surprise when the parents of one of the hosts appeared - flip charts and all. I was horrified - especially when I'd looked into Amway already and decided I didn't like what I saw. Needless to say, the couple who hosted this "party" ceased to be a part of this group of friends for some afterwards.
The vast majority of people who get involved in Amway achieve nothing except to end up saddled with some overpriced products. They also risk alienating their friends, family and aquaintances. The nature of the business means you constantly have to recruit downlines to replace ones that have left or ones that aren't performing. Not my cup of tea.
I'm sure the organisations being mentioned here are nothing like the Amway "cult", but I still couldn't get interested in this type of venture.
The first was NSA that sold water/air filters. Totally not interested because of the set-up costs alone.
The next 2 were Amway. The first time I was introduced to Amway, I went to a presentation and was not convinced. Going to an Amway convention as well was all I needed to put me off this type of business for good. I'm far too cynical to believe the hype. I would even go as far to say the successful Amway people I met seemed like they were in some weird cult.
The second time Amway reared it's ugly head was when a dinner party morphed into an Amway presentation. All of the guests were taken by surprise when the parents of one of the hosts appeared - flip charts and all. I was horrified - especially when I'd looked into Amway already and decided I didn't like what I saw. Needless to say, the couple who hosted this "party" ceased to be a part of this group of friends for some afterwards.
The vast majority of people who get involved in Amway achieve nothing except to end up saddled with some overpriced products. They also risk alienating their friends, family and aquaintances. The nature of the business means you constantly have to recruit downlines to replace ones that have left or ones that aren't performing. Not my cup of tea.
I'm sure the organisations being mentioned here are nothing like the Amway "cult", but I still couldn't get interested in this type of venture.
11 February 2004, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Richard Simpson
Wacky health products.....so you are medically qualified too and you've formed your opinion after what a few minutes of looking at a website..... A friend of the family was reccomended by her doctor to try these products - as she was recovering from Cancer
As I said earlier being cynical is ok, infact it is good and healthy - but your just being arrogant now.
As I said earlier being cynical is ok, infact it is good and healthy - but your just being arrogant now.
However, there is a medical professional in the house who would be quite willing to read the oncology clinical trials for these products if you could provide them to back up your "claims" about cancer.
Carrot juice is often recommended as being good for cancer. However, it's much easier to sell the marketing side based on a cocktail (read potion!) of minerals & vitamins that your man in the street may not understand completely.
If you're selling this to people based on this premise, you are on shaky ground. Ever heard of the placebo effect? Also, the more expensive & mysterious the product, the more likely the gullible & sick (and truly ill) are prepared to shell out for miracle cures. Shaky marketing territory that one....
Woo-hoo, the company has been on the stock exchange since 1910 or whenever? What companies do you know that you base your buying decisions on such longevity? Don't see Intel having problems despite only being 30 years old.
Also, who do you sell to? I suspect there are 3 markets.
1) Friends & family. Probably more likely to buy out of kindness.
2) Those who want to get into this MLM and buy to keep this crap going.
3) The really gullible & vulnerable on doorsteps.
Oh, and anyone who gets their friends round for dinner and does the hardsell should be ashamed......
Arrogance? I don't think so. Just easy to see the downsides of these things.
<cough>brainwashed</cough>
11 February 2004, 06:47 PM
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OK this has been a good thread so far and I hope it continues.
Some very good points have been made about Network Marketing, both for and against. It is not for everyone and as someone suggested, the low entry threshold attracts some people who probably shouldn't be doing it.
The reasons for not mentioning the company name up front are three fold.
Firstly, a "teaser" has been proved to be more effective at marketing than simply spilling all the details. If you are selling anything it is better to drip feed the information rather than dump it all at once. Personally, I'm not convinced by this and continually argue that it would be better to be more open.
Secondly, as soon as the company name is disclosed then the thread degenerates into third hand stories about how people have tried it and failed. Of course people fail for any number of reasons, lack of support from their sponsor, lack of organisation skills, not enough will power. The main reason for failure is people don't believe it will work. Therefore it is pointless trying to convince someone that it works if they have already made up their mind that it won't work.
Thirdly, there are good legal reasons. If an opportunity is presented as a "teaser" then it does not need all the legal disclaimers. As soon as you mention the company name then you have to fully comply with regulations of the Direct Selling Authority. Its not quiet a "if I tell you I then have to kill you" but close. As an ex-compliance officer I do understand the laws on these things and they are a bit involved.
So here is the full legal jargon (and yes you will be sorry you asked):
The Wealth warning is "It is illegal for a promoter or a participant in a trading scheme to persuade anyone to make a payment by promising benefits from getting others to join the scheme. Do not be misled by claims that high earnings are easily achieved" This must be inserted in a prominent position. This must not be at the beginning or the end of the advertisement and should be in the same text format as the advertisement.
The product summary is: "Products for use in the home, the care of the home and for personal care and use".
The name and address of the promoter. Wait for it......
"Promoter: Kleeneze Europe Ltd. Martins Road, Bristol, UK BS15 3DY"
Just to clarify of few of the points raised by others.
There is no direct selling. You simply leave a catalogue with someone and they (hopefull!) give it back to you a few days later. If they want to order something they fill in a form, if not they leave it blank. You could be deaf and dumb and still retail the goods (some distributors are!). Absolutely no selling skills are needed.
There is no way you can alienate family and friends unless you have a go at them for not buying anything! They become just another customer like all the others. My Mum buys regularly, my one sister very rarely and my other sister bins any catalogue she ever receives so I don't bother to leave one with her.
Unlike some schemes you can never be left with unwanted stuff as it can be returned without penalty.
You don't need to constantly replace downlines if you build the business correctly. Unfortunately, many people are too keen to sign up anyone with a pulse just to get numbers. It is far more effective to just have a few direct downlines that know what they are doing than dozens of people who haven't got a clue. Personally I would always go for quality over quantity. For example, neither of the people I saw today were suitable so I would rather not sponsor them than waste my time and theirs. a Less ethical person would probably have signed them up just to get a few months worth of income out of them. They would then have become another statistic showing that Network Marketing doesn't work.
I respect the views of people who say this type of business is not for them but equally I have seen the people who are making a great living from it so I know for a fact that it can work if all the right components come together.
Some very good points have been made about Network Marketing, both for and against. It is not for everyone and as someone suggested, the low entry threshold attracts some people who probably shouldn't be doing it.
The reasons for not mentioning the company name up front are three fold.
Firstly, a "teaser" has been proved to be more effective at marketing than simply spilling all the details. If you are selling anything it is better to drip feed the information rather than dump it all at once. Personally, I'm not convinced by this and continually argue that it would be better to be more open.
Secondly, as soon as the company name is disclosed then the thread degenerates into third hand stories about how people have tried it and failed. Of course people fail for any number of reasons, lack of support from their sponsor, lack of organisation skills, not enough will power. The main reason for failure is people don't believe it will work. Therefore it is pointless trying to convince someone that it works if they have already made up their mind that it won't work.
Thirdly, there are good legal reasons. If an opportunity is presented as a "teaser" then it does not need all the legal disclaimers. As soon as you mention the company name then you have to fully comply with regulations of the Direct Selling Authority. Its not quiet a "if I tell you I then have to kill you" but close.
As an ex-compliance officer I do understand the laws on these things and they are a bit involved.So here is the full legal jargon (and yes you will be sorry you asked):
The Wealth warning is "It is illegal for a promoter or a participant in a trading scheme to persuade anyone to make a payment by promising benefits from getting others to join the scheme. Do not be misled by claims that high earnings are easily achieved" This must be inserted in a prominent position. This must not be at the beginning or the end of the advertisement and should be in the same text format as the advertisement.
The product summary is: "Products for use in the home, the care of the home and for personal care and use".
The name and address of the promoter. Wait for it......
"Promoter: Kleeneze Europe Ltd. Martins Road, Bristol, UK BS15 3DY"
Just to clarify of few of the points raised by others.
There is no direct selling. You simply leave a catalogue with someone and they (hopefull!) give it back to you a few days later. If they want to order something they fill in a form, if not they leave it blank. You could be deaf and dumb and still retail the goods (some distributors are!). Absolutely no selling skills are needed.
There is no way you can alienate family and friends unless you have a go at them for not buying anything! They become just another customer like all the others. My Mum buys regularly, my one sister very rarely and my other sister bins any catalogue she ever receives so I don't bother to leave one with her.
Unlike some schemes you can never be left with unwanted stuff as it can be returned without penalty.
You don't need to constantly replace downlines if you build the business correctly. Unfortunately, many people are too keen to sign up anyone with a pulse just to get numbers. It is far more effective to just have a few direct downlines that know what they are doing than dozens of people who haven't got a clue. Personally I would always go for quality over quantity. For example, neither of the people I saw today were suitable so I would rather not sponsor them than waste my time and theirs. a Less ethical person would probably have signed them up just to get a few months worth of income out of them. They would then have become another statistic showing that Network Marketing doesn't work.
I respect the views of people who say this type of business is not for them but equally I have seen the people who are making a great living from it so I know for a fact that it can work if all the right components come together.
11 February 2004, 06:58 PM
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i know Crapaud62 says he didn't want to get into a load of third hand stories, but never mind that
kleeneze are quite active where i live. one time some woman banged on the door and asked for her catalogue back. i had no idea we had even receieved a catalogue - it probably got put in the bin with all the other junk mail. i told her that i didn't have it. she said "but i left it here on such and such a day!" i said "well maybe you did, all i'm saying is that i don't have it anymore" she then got quite angry and started going on about how she had to pay £1 or something for each catalogue. i told her not to leave any more as i could not be responsible for their safe return. we still get them (different seller, i think) and now i know what they are i just leave them next to the door step as soon as they are delivered. sometimes they get collected, sometimes they sit there getting wet for a couple of weeks and then i throw them away. never actually opened one to see what stuff they are selling.
kleeneze are quite active where i live. one time some woman banged on the door and asked for her catalogue back. i had no idea we had even receieved a catalogue - it probably got put in the bin with all the other junk mail. i told her that i didn't have it. she said "but i left it here on such and such a day!" i said "well maybe you did, all i'm saying is that i don't have it anymore" she then got quite angry and started going on about how she had to pay £1 or something for each catalogue. i told her not to leave any more as i could not be responsible for their safe return. we still get them (different seller, i think) and now i know what they are i just leave them next to the door step as soon as they are delivered. sometimes they get collected, sometimes they sit there getting wet for a couple of weeks and then i throw them away. never actually opened one to see what stuff they are selling.
11 February 2004, 07:01 PM
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If someone posts something unsolicited through your door, are you legally entitled to bin it?
I assume so....I would treat it as litter. It is not the Royal Mail (which is perhaps protected?)
I assume so....I would treat it as litter. It is not the Royal Mail (which is perhaps protected?)
11 February 2004, 07:06 PM
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Look, no matter what, everyone seems to be interested in making money but when it comes to crunch time, only a very small few actually get off their moaning asses.
I've written an electronic book which is on sale from my website and it does get people moving. But only a very ridiculous few get the message and get moving.
It seems, people are more interested in crying out but not doing a thing about it. Maybe something we learnt from childhood??
It does make me angry to see people wasting away.
Peter
I've written an electronic book which is on sale from my website and it does get people moving. But only a very ridiculous few get the message and get moving.
It seems, people are more interested in crying out but not doing a thing about it. Maybe something we learnt from childhood??
It does make me angry to see people wasting away.
Peter
11 February 2004, 07:13 PM
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What a great read that was!
A picture of the author:
Shame you didn't divert some of the spoils of your success towards a decent tailor / hairdresser.
A picture of the author:
Shame you didn't divert some of the spoils of your success towards a decent tailor / hairdresser.
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there is a bit of truth in what s6pra is saying. i've known people who have been massively motivated to make money from an early age, and most of them have succeeded. they have sacrificed short term pleasure for long term gain. personally, i have always been a lazy ****, who would much rather spend the afternoon in the pub with some mates then feverishly analysing the stock market. i work fairly hard, i do ok, but i haven't got the necessary motivation to get home form work and start trying to get involved in otehr money making schemes. i suppose it depends on what your priorities are. if someone convinced me that i could make an extra £500/month by spending 5 hours a week selling trinkets, i doubt i would do it. if i lost my job and was hard pressed i suppose i would. respect to people who make the effort, but there's more to life than chasing the dollar.
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Ok some reading for you and your friend - if they are medically qualified they might want to take a look at Harpers Biochemistry Chapter 56 and the P.D.R. or Physician's Desk Reference guide for Non-prescription Drugs and Dietary Supplements, which only includes scientifically validated (peer reviewed) products and goes out to over 300,000 physicians each year. The Manantech patented products have been listed on pages 508, 819 and 820. In fact the patent given to Manantech's technology is based in part on its implications in treating Cancer.... The technology behind these products is based on scientific discovery not a marketing spin on vitamins and minerals.....one of the reasons you don't find them in Holland & Barrett.
http://www.sciencenews.org/20020413/bob10.asp
Scientific Validation from various sources:
http://www.glycostory.com/referral/scientificvalidation.asp
Intro to Glyconutrition
http://www.glycoscience.com/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?FILENAME=D001
Consolidated Benefits of Glyconutrition
http://www.glycoscience.com/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?FILENAME=R001
Implications for Cancer
http://www.glycoscience.com/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?FILENAME=G001&MAIN=glyconutritiona ls&SUB=disease
Implications for Arthritis
http://www.glycoscience.com/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?FILENAME=G002&MAIN=glyconutritiona ls&SUB=disease
Trialling Nutritional Products
http://www.glycoscience.com/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?FILENAME=K004A
Oh and by the way, research into this field has won several Nobel Prizes over the last few years - it is now accepted medical knowledge.
http://www.sciencenews.org/20020413/bob10.asp
Scientific Validation from various sources:
http://www.glycostory.com/referral/scientificvalidation.asp
Intro to Glyconutrition
http://www.glycoscience.com/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?FILENAME=D001
Consolidated Benefits of Glyconutrition
http://www.glycoscience.com/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?FILENAME=R001
Implications for Cancer
http://www.glycoscience.com/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?FILENAME=G001&MAIN=glyconutritiona ls&SUB=disease
Implications for Arthritis
http://www.glycoscience.com/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?FILENAME=G002&MAIN=glyconutritiona ls&SUB=disease
Trialling Nutritional Products
http://www.glycoscience.com/glycoscience/start_frames.wm?FILENAME=K004A
Oh and by the way, research into this field has won several Nobel Prizes over the last few years - it is now accepted medical knowledge.
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OK....so i repeat, if the product is so wonderful, why is the company not selling it on the high st where they'd have FAR more sales than through MLM?
The products have not been through clinical trials though have they....
Come on, spin some more.....
The products have not been through clinical trials though have they....
Come on, spin some more.....
Last edited by imlach; 11 February 2004 at 08:04 PM.