CraigH

Harvey,

It's not just Subaru they reckon they're experts at though, is it? Amazing the powers of advertising. Get a nice glossy advert with quality Jap gear on and everyone thinks you konw what you're talking about.

RC - they're the ones with the superdooper xxx hp car that never runs, is never available or never seen aren't they? Been the same for the last 2 and a half years

Or the cynical would say they will sell these parts on so they won't take up space and a few onths down the line, they won't have them to return......

CustomScoobyIOM

Is it me or can noone get through?

Permantly busy?

PALATINE

alanjack wrote "Why is it out of order?

This guy has had crap service like many others, why is he out of order?"

Palatine Wrote "4 months!!
should have asked for it at the time
they are tuners not parts looker afterers.....I dont know about your other beefs with RC but this one is out of order IMHO."

harvey

iTrader: (48)

Craig: Spot on mate. Some guys see a glossy advert with fantastic claims,( not just R.C.) and think they must be alright. Before you know it they are bulling the company up on here although they have never had first hand experience of getting work done. So then others who may be Newbies or do not have the knowledge to be searching enough, follow like sheep. If they have had work done some have been totally taken in by the sales talk and they have no car knowledge to know that expenditure of £9,000 is not required to get 320bhp. Honest that is one of the results.
No disrespect but Jay on this thread has had a very bad experience but it has taken a long time for him to get his eyes open and he is only one of many.
At Well Lane on Sunday I was told that the experiences of Subaru owners are mirrored in the Evo community.

Andy.F

Here is a true story regarding two S/net members experience at RCD (can be named if mods require)
Car 1 goes to RC for remap of Apexi PFC, owner tells them he has a TD05 hybrid turbo, remap goes well, mapper comments that he was able to run 5 degrees more advance than usual at that boost, car later runs on independant rolling road and makes 406 bhp.
Car 2 goes to RC for remap of Apexi PFC, owner tells them he has an Andy F 20G turbo, remap not going well, mapper comments that he doesn't like the turbo, car is sent away running low boost and detting on full throttle.

Both cars were MY99 and had identical turbos and virtually identical mods.

Strange isn't it !

wos 69

Should of gone to Specsavers.
No problem with mine, but there again Harvey and Bob Rawle were the main men.
Murray.

happysoul

palatine, "they are tuners not parts looker afterers" was quite funny and your right. but thats why the parts should have been returned straight away. if you go in for a set of coilovers, new exhaust, ecu, wheels etc you expect your old ones back. there is no excuse.

NotoriousREV

I've only ever had a quote for work from RC. It took a week to arrive (by e-mail) and was so vastly over-priced that I could source all parts myself, including delivery and VAT, for 25% under their "not including VAT" price.

And I've never heard anyone singing RC's praises either. Are there any happy customers that would like to present a defence?

RC are 5 mins up the road from me, but I still drive to Prosport in Stockport.

alanjack

I want RC to post on this thread like they did on a previous thread questioning some work they had produced. AFAIK it was the topic started by Martin Vigner (VIGS), (Power FC), could someone find it? )

This is a copy of what I posted off that thread on Tuesday May 20th 2003,

I got 262BHP without a Power Fc on a UK Turbo (TD04).With the Power FC AND FMIC i got 297BHP(TD04), then added a VF24 mapped, then estimated power to be approx 320BHP. Sadly my engine blew up at some at fast speed, I have been told it could be down to mapping at the top end, if is isn't right it would be detting it's nuts off, I don't have a knocklink fitted either, (must get one). My car also developed an erratic idle and a light knocking when cold, and this was all a month or so before it said goodbye. anyway it blew up and that is that.I waited over 2 months last summer to get my Power FC and when I got it I was amazed but now I am not convinced, I am not saying the mapper/s are good or bad, but to map YOUR at say 150mph don't they have to drive it at that speed? Something seems a little strange to me.


This post led them to telling me to shove my car up my **** and to F*** Off, not to mention the lack of brains I never had Thank god I took their advice

I don't think my post warranted a response of that severity. Did I mention RC?

They don't deserve customers, Andy F deserves customers as he actually gives a ****. The fact people are now driving to the darkest corners of Scotland at least a 12 hour round trip for most of us shows us the way things are shaping up.

BDScooby, where were you on Sunday?

CraigH

Harvey,

Unfortunately I was one of the ignorant when i first started, namely with BPM. I had many many peope warn me not to use him but I wanted to try something different and paid the cost. Other things I tried were obviously more successful.

I think RC are still at the stage where they think they can get away with saying, exhaust +30hp, induction kit +10hp , turbo + 50hp and whoop de doo your STI has 370hp. Honest guv.

Would be interesting to see their portfolio of successful and effective projects.

Lack of happy customers (in the early stage, MLR were full of praise for them, 'till they realised things weren't "quite" as good as they were stated to be) and lack of tangible "results" mean you should steer clear of these Bvll5hitting monkeys IMO.

Shame theres no governing body for aftermarket suppliers and their claims - guess it'd eradicate 70% of the market though

bdscooby

No I dont think this is outta order,cuz if i knew i would of asked for it back,anyway on our way out i did see my full exhaust system,which was only 1 month old and wheels and i asked for it and was given,i then asked if there was anything that i have left that i do not know of,and was told nope i have all,Anyway i think it is there job to tell me that these are the old parts,do i want them or not.Also,after i had paid them direct through the bank account there full bill,I had to wait for four days for the car,and then was told by a guy who used to work there,that they had took it to some weekend event,which they stayed there for at least 3 days.
Also when i got the car it was sucking more oil than it could drink petrol and after they lowered the boost it was all ok,i have not had to re fill it wioth oil.

At the end of the day my beef is that i have spent about 12000 grand with them for a car that cant even beat a 01 turbo impreza,Now i think that is unfair.
I am now using Jap innovations and Andy F for all mapping and tuning of my car,and the only regret i have is that why didnt i go to them before,that way i maybe of had a fast car.
So from wherte i am sitting and you reading i think RC ARE OUT OF ORDER NOT ME

bdscooby

Sorry Alan,woke up on sunday morning,got a call that a freind had died,I am sorry and hope that i can still hook up with you to see your car.

alanjack

Sorry about your friend

You have my number, text me or mail me and we can meet up tomorrow if you like.

bdscooby

I am afraid i cant come tommorow working,maybe the weekend,would be great if its ok with you

InsBro

Guys

I cant believe the talk on asking for the parts back.

I have had 2 scoobs and an Evo in the past 4 years.

Every time I have had work done the Old bits have been put in my boot in a box and I was asked if I wanted them!!!

From down pipes to full systems, ECU's, Injectors, old brake discs etc etc

Ive had work done by DP Motorsport and CPP motordevelopments.

Jeremy

alanjack

Still nowt from RC then...

alanjack

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I heard they now have an EVO with 930bhp? Maybe some good comes from their "test proceedures".

How many cars has Andy Forrest blown up???????

PALATINE

Why?
How many have RC Blown?

Peanuts

iTrader: (15)

nip next door and ask them for us will you then please, palatine.

it is definately odd that they havent surfaced to at least put across a substantive arguement, to say the least.
All I know is that were I in business and somebody was dissatisfied with the service and went public, if I didnt agree with them I would at least ask them to make personal contact to remedy the situation either way.

it just goes to show how well respected AndyF is when there are three of us in Portsmouth who are going to get our Apexi gear mapped by a chap in Edinburgh.

CustomScoobyIOM

Second vote for Andy F. Top bloke.

PALATINE

I'm not saying Andyf isn't any good I just asked who's engine has blown due to being poorly mapped by RC.
And I also think that if Alanjack has a beef with RC he should get it resolved with them and not just spew bile about them on here and expect them to answer his calling. If he want's a response from them, ring them up or go and see them. Alanjack's obviously pissed at them and needs to vent but I'll be using them for my car and there's lots of people using them day in and day out who are happy!

alanjack

The other thing is RC have only one post on Scoobynet, and which their work was again called into question. My post on that thread led to a phone call from Clive, which in turn led to me having to collect my blown up car and make other arrangements.

Palatine, good luck with your car.

stevebt

iTrader: (8)

if you want engine repairs its best to take yyour car to a proper engine rebuild shop, i had a damaged engine(not my sccoob) and took it to a garage similar to RC they quoted me a price for a rebuild but when i picked the car up it was £1k more than they told me and after 50 miles i had the exact same fault on the car as when i took it in, after towing the car back to there garage 5 times and still no better i then paid for the engine to be repaired at a proper enginnering shop for engines turns out the pistons were breaking up, they had never been replaced but small claims is a waste of time i also ended up another £1k out of pocket using debt collectors to get my money back but i learned a valuable lesson

PALATINE

stevebt saidWTF has that got to do with RC

That's like saying "I bought an apple from Morrisons and it was rotten so don't goto Sainsbury's for your apples lads!"

Peanuts

iTrader: (15)

palatine said, "If he want's a response from them, ring them up or go and see them".
which is fair comment and I would have agreed except for,

(BDScooby)got a reply of Clive that yes i can give you a diagram of the wireing but i am to busy and put the phone down.

alanjack

That's a damn site better than the response I got. I got told to F Off and use my F****** brains.

harvey

iTrader: (48)

Hi Alan: Well at least that means they think you have some.

PALATINE

Seems your not going anywhere near Edinburgh!!
Seems the reason your getting your cars mapped by a guy in Edinburgh is cos he's coming to Portsmouth

Peanuts

iTrader: (15)

maybe if RC would be prepared to....


oh, hang on

alanjack

I think Steve was refering to other garages "like RC", ones that take the cash and F you off.

The only people who i have used who haven't took the **** are Jap Innovations, Colin Minton and Super Andy Forrest.