New MY97 ECU
11 January 2004, 11:18 PM
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David are you saying that you will do MY97-98 ScoobyECU
If you are then I can see a big queue outside your house
If you are then I can see a big queue outside your house
12 January 2004, 10:18 AM
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top right, or the one just below it iirc..
Yes 1 is suitable..
I can get them made cheaper iirc.
David
Yes 1 is suitable..
I can get them made cheaper iirc.
David
12 January 2004, 10:21 AM
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yes they are suitable, and cost about £250 including scrambler chip.
Townend have indeed decoded the standard ECU for 97-98, and yes they sorted anti-lag and a some other nice bits, although the picture is of a replacement board of some sort.
I contacted the guy that did the work for TEG a long time ago, he put a lot of time and effort into doing it, but it's not really what I need to be doing. For a start I don't have a 97-98 car!
Paul
Townend have indeed decoded the standard ECU for 97-98, and yes they sorted anti-lag and a some other nice bits, although the picture is of a replacement board of some sort.
I contacted the guy that did the work for TEG a long time ago, he put a lot of time and effort into doing it, but it's not really what I need to be doing. For a start I don't have a 97-98 car!
Paul
12 January 2004, 10:24 AM
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A Prodrive ECU out of a MY97/98 would help..just a little bit
Not interested in the code, just need a look at the adaptor that has been used.
Or a PE Phase 1 Adaptor...
They are probably all sourced from the same supplier. We just need to know who.
[Edited by Scott.T - 1/12/2004 11:10:37 AM]
Not interested in the code, just need a look at the adaptor that has been used.
Or a PE Phase 1 Adaptor...
They are probably all sourced from the same supplier. We just need to know who.
[Edited by Scott.T - 1/12/2004 11:10:37 AM]
12 January 2004, 10:46 AM
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Well Ill have a go if people are interested.. I just need a spare ecu..
Not the best thread to discuss in though..
David
Not the best thread to discuss in though..
David
12 January 2004, 01:41 PM
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It may help, but I think the header pin out's are pretty much sorted on the Main ECU PCB. Along with the Jumper settings in order to run from External ROM.
We just need to take a gander at an adaptor, to see what Address, Data and Control signals are actually used. And also to see what the preferred Device/Devices and and what device speed is used.
We just need to take a gander at an adaptor, to see what Address, Data and Control signals are actually used. And also to see what the preferred Device/Devices and and what device speed is used.
12 January 2004, 03:20 PM
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I don't think the STi one will have an adaptor, due to the later STI becoming Productionised within Subaru. It's worth cracking one open for a look tho'
Only the early STi 1 was actually built by STi and hence had an adaptor board fitted in a re-badged standard ECU.
STi 2 from what I have seen had STi maps in the ECU rather then on an adaptor.
Only the early STi 1 was actually built by STi and hence had an adaptor board fitted in a re-badged standard ECU.
STi 2 from what I have seen had STi maps in the ECU rather then on an adaptor.
12 January 2004, 05:16 PM
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My V4 sti type r has a mines ecu conversion, so would it have a different chip in it to a standard one or can they just alter the standard ecu? I run it with optimax and ob and have seen no activity on the knocklink.
12 January 2004, 08:14 PM
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Firstly, would anyone care to explain the japanese characters on this webpage (reply screen)?
Secondly, anything is possible. But where to find the time? Time that could be otherwise paid...
Jim,
I wouldn't let us stop you getting a unichip right now.
Paul
Secondly, anything is possible. But where to find the time? Time that could be otherwise paid...
Jim,
I wouldn't let us stop you getting a unichip right now.
Paul
12 January 2004, 08:30 PM
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Watching this thread with interest. I'm personally going the PE route, £500.00 plus vat. £587.50 incl. with the group buy:
http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/threa...Name=ScoobyNet
I was going to go for a Unichip (make sure it's mapped by Owen developments or Powerstation if you go down this route, there are LOADS of dodgy Unichip mappers out there), but decided on the PE remap because it's no more expensive than a Unichip with the group buy.
[Edited by DreXeL - 1/12/2004 8:35:02 PM]
http://www.scoobynet.co.uk/bbs/threa...Name=ScoobyNet
I was going to go for a Unichip (make sure it's mapped by Owen developments or Powerstation if you go down this route, there are LOADS of dodgy Unichip mappers out there), but decided on the PE remap because it's no more expensive than a Unichip with the group buy.
[Edited by DreXeL - 1/12/2004 8:35:02 PM]
12 January 2004, 08:49 PM
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Oi Scott I thought you were retiring from the ECU Projects 
Red Rag to a bull with a challenge then
I'll tell you wife you being a bad bad boy
Huxley
Red Rag to a bull with a challenge then
I'll tell you wife you being a bad bad boy
Huxley
12 January 2004, 11:12 PM
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Just to try and get this thread back to the original topic.....
I spoke to someone at Townend today ( Although I think they're going by the name of TEG sport now ! ) about this ECU that was seen at Autosport.
It's not for the MY97. It's for the 92-96 (as the sign said) The MY97 version will be out soon, they couldn't give an exact date on it's release but said it would be about a month.
It is a complete replacement board. They said that they did fully decode the 96 & 97 versions, but because they couldn't physically get all the features they wanted for the rally lads in the original ecu, they came up with there own.
He did give me a run down on what it would do, but to be honest, most of it went straight over my head ! The launch control sounded interesting though. It allows you to plant your foot on the gas, and the ecu will stop the engine revving too far. Then when you let the clutch up, it will gradually increase the engine power or something like that. Anyway, he said it works great away from traffic lights !!!! (Although they accept no responsiblity for what happens to your gearbox if you just side step the clutch ! )
It also has dual maps as he called it also sounded good. You can get the car set up for two differant levels of performance and swap between them at the flick of a switch - great for those of us that can't afford to run flat out all the time.
Hope I've explained it all correctly, sorry if I've got something wrong, but like I said, it was all a bit beyond me. Perhaps someone who understands more about ecus should ring them and then post back on here what they find out.
Mark
I spoke to someone at Townend today ( Although I think they're going by the name of TEG sport now ! ) about this ECU that was seen at Autosport.
It's not for the MY97. It's for the 92-96 (as the sign said) The MY97 version will be out soon, they couldn't give an exact date on it's release but said it would be about a month.
It is a complete replacement board. They said that they did fully decode the 96 & 97 versions, but because they couldn't physically get all the features they wanted for the rally lads in the original ecu, they came up with there own.
He did give me a run down on what it would do, but to be honest, most of it went straight over my head ! The launch control sounded interesting though. It allows you to plant your foot on the gas, and the ecu will stop the engine revving too far. Then when you let the clutch up, it will gradually increase the engine power or something like that. Anyway, he said it works great away from traffic lights !!!! (Although they accept no responsiblity for what happens to your gearbox if you just side step the clutch ! )
It also has dual maps as he called it also sounded good. You can get the car set up for two differant levels of performance and swap between them at the flick of a switch - great for those of us that can't afford to run flat out all the time.
Hope I've explained it all correctly, sorry if I've got something wrong, but like I said, it was all a bit beyond me. Perhaps someone who understands more about ecus should ring them and then post back on here what they find out.
Mark
13 January 2004, 10:11 AM
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Scott, I would post anything here, PE used to get there boards from Japan.. but we all know its not the board that makes a remap.
David
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13 January 2004, 10:19 AM
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You'd be right there... the board is just a bit of fibreglass with copper tracks in it. It's the 1's and 0's in the chips that get fitted that make all the difference.
P.S I would like to add that I do not intend to do and MY97/98 remapping. I just want to get the information and Hardware 'out-there' so that like minded people can use it.
As I'm starting to feel sorry for u MY97/98 owners.
P.P.S I may have a Prodive ECU to look at. To verify the adaptor tracking.
P.S I would like to add that I do not intend to do and MY97/98 remapping. I just want to get the information and Hardware 'out-there' so that like minded people can use it.
As I'm starting to feel sorry for u MY97/98 owners.
P.P.S I may have a Prodive ECU to look at. To verify the adaptor tracking.
13 January 2004, 10:53 AM
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Ok, so if the hardware interface is sorted, what sort of map would be applied to a V3 / V4 STi? I ask as the ScoobECU I had on my WRX made the boost targets higher etc, and made a big difference to the performance.
The STi has quite high boost targets anyway, so would the main advantage be just the fueling / ignition adjustment for UK fuel? Or would it be a different MAP to the standard ScoobyECU one?
MB
The STi has quite high boost targets anyway, so would the main advantage be just the fueling / ignition adjustment for UK fuel? Or would it be a different MAP to the standard ScoobyECU one?
MB