S.E.C.S. VFD version
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Yeah, not impressed considering the wait for it.
I was expecting to see something on the line of the Skyline R34 GTR display :-(
Oh well.
I was expecting to see something on the line of the Skyline R34 GTR display :-(
Oh well.
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From: Glos UK. - Manufacturers of ECU Data Monitors.
As i have mentioned before on S/N these are a direct replacement for our existing LCD's, they show the same data but with a clearer display which is also less succeptable to temperature variations.
We are working on a larger graphical version but this is still some way off.
simon
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We are working on a larger graphical version but this is still some way off.
simon
psi3
Just to add to Simon's comments, the display is MUCH clearer than the LCD Equivalent which makes it easy while driving to give a quick glance across to read the display. Sorry but the pictures also don't make it look as clear as realality. For me and I suspect others I was already considering buying a SECS unit so when I heard of this one, I just waited a couple of weeks while it was finalised. From some opinions this is not as extreme as some had hoped for, perhaps something based on a "Dixons juke box"
. Still that's everyone's opinion.
. Still that's everyone's opinion.
Well, there's a couple of points:
- display will always be "fast", too. Sometimes when cold then LCDs can appear to slow down.
- If you really want multi-coloured things, get some filters and assemble your own, with different zones being different colours. To me it looks like the VFD is already being filtered to blue, so you may need to remove the old thing.
VFDs are also a nightmare to photo because they're so bright. The camera either underexposes the picture except for the display's "on" bits, or the display gets utterly washed out.
Anyhow, here's another example of a VFD, but the mounting is a little different. Work in progress

Cheers,
Nick.
- display will always be "fast", too. Sometimes when cold then LCDs can appear to slow down.
- If you really want multi-coloured things, get some filters and assemble your own, with different zones being different colours. To me it looks like the VFD is already being filtered to blue, so you may need to remove the old thing.
VFDs are also a nightmare to photo because they're so bright. The camera either underexposes the picture except for the display's "on" bits, or the display gets utterly washed out.
Anyhow, here's another example of a VFD, but the mounting is a little different. Work in progress


Cheers,
Nick.
At the end of the day this is a good product which I'm sure will be better than the LCD SECS I already have. A larger display would have been nice though, even if it were all one colour so you can see the figures easier.
Some people seem to think that feedback is a bad thing. If it weren't for honest feedback then things would never improve.
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Nick I would but I'm a technical numptie and I'd much rather pay Simon to do it for me.

Nathan..
Some people seem to think that feedback is a bad thing. If it weren't for honest feedback then things would never improve.
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If you really want multi-coloured things, get some filters and assemble your own, with different zones being different colours.

Nathan..
I think everyone is all for feedback. Perhaps expectations were wrongly set of what VFD would give? I dunno.
Agreed, a whizzy graphic display would be fantastic
. Hopefully when I get my LCD panel in then I can get somewhere near doing this...
Agreed, a whizzy graphic display would be fantastic
. Hopefully when I get my LCD panel in then I can get somewhere near doing this...
simon has said they are working on a skyline type display.
This looks to me to be everything that was promised and only an improvement over what was already available.
I think with patience we won't be dissapointed.
This looks to me to be everything that was promised and only an improvement over what was already available.
I think with patience we won't be dissapointed.
just installed our first VFD unit,
VFD very bright and easy to read.
Quick pic below, better quality ones to follows or email me for others.

Neil
www.scoobyworld.co.uk
[Edited by NeilT - 1/23/2004 1:16:41 PM]
VFD very bright and easy to read.
Quick pic below, better quality ones to follows or email me for others.

Neil
www.scoobyworld.co.uk
[Edited by NeilT - 1/23/2004 1:16:41 PM]
and what can u honestly do with the readings it gives you?
You can reset the ECU, but how many times in the past year have you done this...?
save yourself £350 and do this next time
With engine at operating temperature, turn engine off. Place gear shift lever into park (auto transmission cars only)
Locate the two ECU check connectors, for most cars they are located under the steering column and consist of a black plastic male and female connector, and a green male female connector. The exact location of the connectors varies with the different year models, but generally they are located under the steering column on the drivers side.
NOTE: sometimes they are still taped over with some small amount of plastic tape, so look hard, they will be there!
With the ignition OFF connect black to black and green to green.
Turn on ignition, do not start the engine, (and for auto transmission, cycle the gearshift lever from park to neutral and back to park ), depress the accelerator pedal to full throttle and hold for a few seconds, and then release.
Start engine and then drive for at least one minute, keeping road speed above 11 Km/h.
ECU is now re-set.
Job complete
With engine at operating temperature, turn engine off. Place gear shift lever into park (auto transmission cars only)
Locate the two ECU check connectors, for most cars they are located under the steering column and consist of a black plastic male and female connector, and a green male female connector. The exact location of the connectors varies with the different year models, but generally they are located under the steering column on the drivers side.
NOTE: sometimes they are still taped over with some small amount of plastic tape, so look hard, they will be there!
With the ignition OFF connect black to black and green to green.
Turn on ignition, do not start the engine, (and for auto transmission, cycle the gearshift lever from park to neutral and back to park ), depress the accelerator pedal to full throttle and hold for a few seconds, and then release.
Start engine and then drive for at least one minute, keeping road speed above 11 Km/h.
ECU is now re-set.
Job complete
Guys... think you are missing the point... the sort of information this unit provides is VERY useful if you understand the readings it is giving you. With the greastest of respect, if I have to explain the importance of a/f ratio or boost etc. to you then you are probably wasting your money buying one!
AFAIK this turns off the CEL but still stores the error code as Historic.
You also know what the error code is so don't have to pay Subaru £25 a time to plug it in to the Select monitor.
But your right it does fill a space
You also know what the error code is so don't have to pay Subaru £25 a time to plug it in to the Select monitor.
But your right it does fill a space
I do lots of things with my SECS.
I have it monitoring the oil temperature and presure and have set alarm levels so if the oil gets too hot on track i know about it without having to look at any gauges.
I have it alarming lots of other functions too, such as overboost, too high water temperature, too low oil presure. It was used to trigger Water Injection when i had that on the car.
I also use it for a shift light so when i am pushing on i dont need to look at the dash.
I have used it post an ECU reset to monitor knock correction and show me how the ECU is learning the ignition required. I use it to tell me the correct oil and water temperature which tells me when in the morning it is safe to start to give the engine some stick.
I use it in europe to tell me what my speed is in KMPH as my dashboard doesnt have a KMPH indication, only MPH. I use it on track to tell me what my top speed was (158MPH so far is highest).
I even used it when i was running my engine in to help me keep the boost below 0.5BAR and rpm below 4000 by setting the alarms/shift light so i would get a slap if i let my foot get a little heavy.
I have used it to check my ECU warning codes and clear the error code from the ECU post an oil change where you crank the engine with the cam sensor disconected.
It's a brilliant tool.
Display looks nice.
I have it monitoring the oil temperature and presure and have set alarm levels so if the oil gets too hot on track i know about it without having to look at any gauges.
I have it alarming lots of other functions too, such as overboost, too high water temperature, too low oil presure. It was used to trigger Water Injection when i had that on the car.
I also use it for a shift light so when i am pushing on i dont need to look at the dash.
I have used it post an ECU reset to monitor knock correction and show me how the ECU is learning the ignition required. I use it to tell me the correct oil and water temperature which tells me when in the morning it is safe to start to give the engine some stick.
I use it in europe to tell me what my speed is in KMPH as my dashboard doesnt have a KMPH indication, only MPH. I use it on track to tell me what my top speed was (158MPH so far is highest).
I even used it when i was running my engine in to help me keep the boost below 0.5BAR and rpm below 4000 by setting the alarms/shift light so i would get a slap if i let my foot get a little heavy.
I have used it to check my ECU warning codes and clear the error code from the ECU post an oil change where you crank the engine with the cam sensor disconected.
It's a brilliant tool.
Display looks nice.
I have to confess that having done a swift 400 miles in Wales over the weekend, and having properly looked at the information for the first time, it's value and information provided are great.
I must get into the habit of re setting the top speed bit though!
I must get into the habit of re setting the top speed bit though!
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