StickyMicky

wurzel

why do so many owners change there suspension then?
and why do so many owners upgrade there power?

Wurzel

iTrader: (1)

No idea ????

Dark Evo

Em because they can be made better, just like any other Impreza or car on the market?

16vmarc

uk car 13.99 1/4mile

OllyK

The issue is that most things in life are a compromise. The suspension for example is set up in such a way as to give a reasonably comfortable ride on the average British road. This is not much use for the track however which is very smooth and so a much harder set up can be used to reduce body roll and improve cornering. The trouble is if you try and run that set up on the road you'll end up shattering your spine on any little bump .

People change things:
1) Because they can
2) As an extension of their personality (p5nis)
3) They prefer a stiffer ride / de-tangoed lights etc
4) For some there is no such thing as too much power even if they can only get 5K out of an engine as a result.
5) To prove a point

Wurzel

iTrader: (1)

and is 13.99 seconds to cover a 1/4 mile from 0 not quick enough for you? please name me a road in the UK that is not a private road or a race track where you can legal perform this and use it??

StickyMicky

so you cant say a uk is perfect for the uk if most people change the engine and suspension (the very things that seam to be championd as being the best of the bunch)

uk cars have there purpose imo, but to say they they are better then jdm cars on the points mentioned when most owners change these points is a bit daft isnt it

hell i even changed the suspension on my jdm car although i changing the springs back to jdm rates as i did not like the new settings LOL

but i wouldnt put the car back to standerd power
my mates uk turbo is getting really, really close to my 1/4mile times now

from memory he has done the following

induction kit, samco hoses, dawse device, full decat, serioulsy lightend and balanced flywheel, group N clutch, intercooler splitter, sumthing else involving a spring to increase turbo boost? and probably a few other bits and bobs

his times are 0.1 seconds faster then sum times i set with a pannel filter and a cat back exhaust when i 1st got my car

i sumtimes wonder why he didnt just buy a faster model to beguin with?
he also lowerd and uprated his suspension and fitted strut braces etc etc

i would think that only sumbody who was happy with a standerd uk car, could argue the point about it being more reliable and such

StickyMicky

ohh and he is also planning on sum more engine work to make the car faster?

StickyMicky

although they wont really admit it on this board for fear of backlash, i feel that most owners of both versions of car, exceed the speed limits and such
also
a lot of people will use there car on a 1/4, most of my mates do this so a 1/4 mile time is very important to sum people

intresting post above about sticking a tuned jdm car and a uk car into a traffic strewn town center and see who comes out first

how about sticking the same cars out into the country sumwhere and asking them both to cover sum nice decent roads?

Muffleman

I dare say that someone who modifies a UK spec car would probably modify a Jap spec car - you get used to whatever you drive AND WANT MORE MORE MORE !!! IF you're blood is 100Ron like mine

I have a MY96 UK turbo wagon for the missus, reliable, quick, pretty bombproof, 140k on original engine and everything's as healthy as can be. In this case, a UK car is better than a Jap spec car because I know it's history and I know it's reliable.

An impreza turbo is a great car, but different people want different things, some want a WRX and some want a UK car. Therefore, what will be 'better' for one person won't be for another.

Mechanically, there's nothing wrong with a UK car compared to a japanese car. It's all down to preference and choice.



Matt

StickyMicky

it wouldnt be quick enough for me, i crossed the line more then a second before marc and that wasnt quick enough for me either, people have diffrent needs from there choice of car

Frosted

i agree, bottom line is why buy a powerfull car if you will keep the speed limit, lets be honest here!!!

buy a bloody smart car if you want to stick to speed limits and get good fuel eco.

also there is no problem selling the imports. There is plentyof people that want the cars as subaru designed them for japan, there only unreliable if you dont take care of them, and if you dont want the car enough to have to put up with some problems get a smart car

Note- i dont agree with driving like idiots, but, you dont by a 300bhp sti 4 to drive round at the speed limit.

regards

cheeseboy

should put fluffy dice in your car like mine! goes like a rocket

StickyMicky

will that help me beat my mate on a 1/4 mile if he does further engine work

Sith

This board never ceases to amaze me. People getting all eliteist and snobby over JDM vs UK. They are all Subaru Turbo's. I have a UK model and AFAIC it has the same status as a JDM.

What next, people not waving from a JDM just incase it's a UK model he is aknowlegeing and therefore some how inferior.

Sad bunch of cvnt's on here at times.

Frosted

well, maybe, no need to be rude......

my point was made becuase i get anoyyed with people rattling on about how its quick enough and whats the point in having ANYTHING other than a uk car

personally, i think its personal preference. the thing that infulences me is when i went to japan i saw how cheap the cars actually go for,thus i realised that for the price of a uk car you can get a low milage (well in kms) car in very good condition with lots more for the same money as a uk car.

show me the money!

StickyMicky

sith you seam to have took the whole thing the wrong way lmfao

the original question was "are they really this bad"
and everybodys answer was "no there not"

having a inferior complex?

16vmarc

ill probobly go jap import in a few years.

drb5

iTrader: (4)

can't BELIEVE POC hasn't posted up on this one yet

16vmarc

it wouldnt be quick enough for me, i crossed the line more then a second before marc and that wasnt quick enough for me either, people have diffrent needs from there choice of car



No you pissed all over me!!!1 lol


[Edited by 16vmarc - 12/9/2003 12:39:44 PM]

SiPie

PS Lewis

For 3 years now I have posted here and never have I risen to your bait but having driven a FSH MY99 UK turbo for the last 2 1/2yrs and having replaced guess what

Clutch
Discs
Engine
Gearbox
Wheel bearings (3 out of 4 ain't bad)
3 x maf sensors
Springs
Shocks
and only last week... the turbo

These are only the bits off the top of my head and that's forgetting the consumables

and the mileage as of this morning..... 100,006 miles

and all the above were replaced because they wore out or blew up as opposed to it being my choice to upgrade so take your claims about UK reliability and shove it.... as your senile old mind clearly no longer works too well

Oh and they were all out of warranty

Not saying the same wouldn't happen to a Japanese car but .....

Have a nice day now .... oh and it's got silver wheels before you start doing your usual zzzZZZzzZZZZzz and questioning peoples sexual preferences

Frosted

grin, well actually laughing!

StickyMicky

lmfao
pslewis is a one man wind up merchant

Dark Evo

Sith has a valid point.

Might all be a big laugh just now , but it snowballs into more and more crap threads.

Some of the quickest cars on the board are UK turbos, some are JDM's.
The question being asked about why do owners upgrade the power and suspension all the time on UK models can be asked of any Impreza not just the UK models.
I would even hazard a guess and say that some owners actually get enjoyment from making their pride and joy a bit quicker and handle a bit better

StickyMicky

umm doesnt that mean that they arnt the same car which is perfect to run for 100 000 miles and such?

i think you missed my point

pslewis

SiPie:-
Clutch
Discs
Engine
Gearbox
Wheel bearings (3 out of 4 ain't bad)
3 x maf sensors
Springs
Shocks
and only last week... the turbo
---------------------------------------------------------------

Good grief man! You must drive like a complete zero to knacker all that!! learn to drive properly and you wouldn't wear stuff out! I may be senile BUT I can outdrive you obviously!

Do NOT buy a car from SiPie!! he kills 'em!!

Pete

misty

I was going to say something! but reading this 3 page thread it seems it's all been said!! UK or JDM still the dogs ballocks cars aren't they???
dave

Diablo

What's really ironic is that Pete has (as I understand it) one of the worst performing UK Scoobs - the MY00...

No wonder everything still works

D

Timsters

"P1?? And what good is that pulling a caravan? Lugging the dog around with all the camping gear in the back?"

you should be shot.

We all know your car hates you.

OllyK

Horses for courses

Just swapped my Y reg 2001 Pug GTi for a UK Turbo MY00 Wagon.

In 2 1/2 years on the Pug and 40K miles:
New Discs (£250+)
New Pads
New external door strip (Warranty)
New Glove box cover (Warranty)
New interior carpet (Warranty)
New ball joints (Warranty)
New front shocks (£250+)
New Exhaust (went the day before I got rid - phew!)
Full set of new headlight bulbs (£120+)
2 Front Sets of Goodyear Eagle F1's with the set on when it went, in desperate need of replacing. (£110 per tyre)
Regular visits to the dealer with the Engine warning light on due to faulty sensors.
Day after I got rid of it a recall letter to say there is a fault with the brake pedals (f**k!!)



[Edited by OllyK - 12/9/2003 4:25:10 PM]