Get off that mobile!!!!!!!!
01 December 2003, 01:07 PM
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The new regulations are simple and unambiguous - it will be a criminal offence to use a handheld mobile phone at any time while driving. The regulations do not prohibit, or allow, any specific type of equipment, phone or connector but simply make it an offence to hold a phone when driving and cover all activities associated with making or receiving a call, including dialling.
The new regulations do not affect the present law, which imposes an absolute obligation on drivers to have full control of the vehicle and to drive with due care and attention at all times.
While the use of a hands-free phone will not be an offence, drivers will face criminal prosecution and penalties ranging from a simple fine to disqualification and even imprisonment if any aspect of the call adversely affects their driving, and especially if it leads to a crash.
Anyone caught using a phone handset after December 1 may be convicted for one or a number of offences covered by the following statutes:
The Road Vehicles [Construction and Use] [Ammendment] [No 4] 2003 creates the offence of using a hand held phone whilst driving.
The offence of 'Driving whilst not in a position as to have proper control of a vehicle' is dealt with by Regulation 104, Road Vehicles Construction and Use Regulations 1986, Reg 104.
Driving without due care and attention, or reasonable consideration for other road users, is dealt with by Section 3, Road Traffic 1988.
Dangerous Driving is dealt with by Section 2, Road Traffic Act 1988.
Kevin Delaney, Traffic and Road Safety Manager for the RAC Foundation, said the new regulations leave no grey area when it comes to using mobile phones while driving.
"The new regulations introduce a welcome note of clarity and send a clear message to drivers and their employers about the hazards associated with the use of handheld mobile phones.
"The time has come to put speculation and rumour behind us and take a realistic approach to minimising actions which can and do reduce concentration and car control.
"As well as using only hands-free phones, drivers and employers should adopt a more responsible attitude to using phones at all. Keep your hands on the wheel, your eyes on the road and your mind on driving."
PS I didn't write all this........I copied & pasted using a wap enabled phone, whilst driving.....
The new regulations do not affect the present law, which imposes an absolute obligation on drivers to have full control of the vehicle and to drive with due care and attention at all times.
While the use of a hands-free phone will not be an offence, drivers will face criminal prosecution and penalties ranging from a simple fine to disqualification and even imprisonment if any aspect of the call adversely affects their driving, and especially if it leads to a crash.
Anyone caught using a phone handset after December 1 may be convicted for one or a number of offences covered by the following statutes:
The Road Vehicles [Construction and Use] [Ammendment] [No 4] 2003 creates the offence of using a hand held phone whilst driving.
The offence of 'Driving whilst not in a position as to have proper control of a vehicle' is dealt with by Regulation 104, Road Vehicles Construction and Use Regulations 1986, Reg 104.
Driving without due care and attention, or reasonable consideration for other road users, is dealt with by Section 3, Road Traffic 1988.
Dangerous Driving is dealt with by Section 2, Road Traffic Act 1988.
Kevin Delaney, Traffic and Road Safety Manager for the RAC Foundation, said the new regulations leave no grey area when it comes to using mobile phones while driving.
"The new regulations introduce a welcome note of clarity and send a clear message to drivers and their employers about the hazards associated with the use of handheld mobile phones.
"The time has come to put speculation and rumour behind us and take a realistic approach to minimising actions which can and do reduce concentration and car control.
"As well as using only hands-free phones, drivers and employers should adopt a more responsible attitude to using phones at all. Keep your hands on the wheel, your eyes on the road and your mind on driving."
PS I didn't write all this........I copied & pasted using a wap enabled phone, whilst driving.....
01 December 2003, 01:15 PM
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so how long before we are not allowed car stereos anymore then because we could crash while changing the station??
The other sweeping statement..."its hard to concentrate on two things at the same time" ...bollocks
I dunno about any of you lot but when driving you have a lot more than two things to think about and most people get by perfectly fine.
Oh and just for the record.. i dunno about you lot, but the first time i heard that crappy advert, i understood both statements first time around without them repeating it.
The other sweeping statement..."its hard to concentrate on two things at the same time" ...bollocks
I dunno about any of you lot but when driving you have a lot more than two things to think about and most people get by perfectly fine.
Oh and just for the record.. i dunno about you lot, but the first time i heard that crappy advert, i understood both statements first time around without them repeating it.
02 December 2003, 02:29 PM
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Can't wait for all the ***** to start posting on here in the coming weeks - I can see it now!
It's NOT fair, I got done while on my mobile - I didn't see the coppas as I was watching for the speed cameras because I was doing 50 in a 30.
pslewis, remember this?
You dont even need a phone, ya silly to$$er 
[Edited by Jye - 12/2/2003 2:31:47 PM]
It's NOT fair, I got done while on my mobile - I didn't see the coppas as I was watching for the speed cameras because I was doing 50 in a 30.
pslewis, remember this?
Driving along a country road, just been made a 40mph limit, when a car coming towards me flashes his lights and waves ......... I am too busy trying to work out who it was that I fail to see the 2 prize ***** coppas hiding in the bushes!!!! Now, they are pointing something at me - looks like a radar gun but appears to have a camera on it?? It was hand-held, is there such a device?? I reckon I was doing 50mph - but when I realised what was happening I slammed my brakes on and dropped FAST to 30mph .... will I have been too late?? Why do they have to hide in the bushes??
[Edited by Jye - 12/2/2003 2:31:47 PM]
02 December 2003, 05:03 PM
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I wish you two would stop bloody arguing ![img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
cant seem to read anything today without coming across you two winding each other up! give it a rest FFS.
cant seem to read anything today without coming across you two winding each other up! give it a rest FFS.
03 December 2003, 12:20 AM
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"Plus I would like to see an officer stop me and say "Excuse me sir, is that a mobile in your lap?".
No officers I am just pleased to see you wa wa wa boom - sorry - thats a few cans of shandy talking!
As for smoking you get higher insurance for smoking, so it's obviously seen as a risk, and yeah they're not gonna **** of the tobacco industry by banning them. I do agree though mobiles are a mare. I have done it myself, but I normally do it when in slow moving trafic in straight line coming up to traffic lights or something, and if I have to pull of I put it down or switch it off. BUt the amount of time I see daft *** posh chelsea wifes, going 'ya ya ya, lets do lunch' while burnign aorund in there 3 tons of 4x4 paying no attention to other road users.
I agree that talking and not concentrating can be dangerous, but you can ask someone to hold a sec while you do something tricky same as you can if you have passengers, so I think it will be safer.
But eating while driving is the same thing (one handed driving), as is those tit traveling sales man that do their paper work on the steering wheel while ripping along the motorway at 90mph - clowns.
They'll have sensors in the road, and automated driving systems one day you wait. Then you can, smoke, eat, drink, talk and the phone and have sex! Can't wait - not!
No officers I am just pleased to see you wa wa wa boom - sorry - thats a few cans of shandy talking!
As for smoking you get higher insurance for smoking, so it's obviously seen as a risk, and yeah they're not gonna **** of the tobacco industry by banning them. I do agree though mobiles are a mare. I have done it myself, but I normally do it when in slow moving trafic in straight line coming up to traffic lights or something, and if I have to pull of I put it down or switch it off. BUt the amount of time I see daft *** posh chelsea wifes, going 'ya ya ya, lets do lunch' while burnign aorund in there 3 tons of 4x4 paying no attention to other road users.
I agree that talking and not concentrating can be dangerous, but you can ask someone to hold a sec while you do something tricky same as you can if you have passengers, so I think it will be safer.
But eating while driving is the same thing (one handed driving), as is those tit traveling sales man that do their paper work on the steering wheel while ripping along the motorway at 90mph - clowns.
They'll have sensors in the road, and automated driving systems one day you wait. Then you can, smoke, eat, drink, talk and the phone and have sex! Can't wait - not!
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