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Old Jun 14, 2004 | 07:27 PM
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either that or ill bring them over to you as I need to go see howard..
Old Jun 14, 2004 | 07:54 PM
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Yeah no worries m8, just give me a call, you practically drive past my house on the way

Any ideas on this David?

http://bbs.scoobynet.co.uk/showthread.php?t=336065
Old Jun 14, 2004 | 08:05 PM
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Version 7 loom all over the floor......OK who cut the OBDII diagnostic port out the loom? Come on, own up, I said own up..... DOH!
As Shaggy said....."Wassun me......."

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Go to the whisky.... Mmmmmm!
Old Jun 14, 2004 | 08:16 PM
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LOL
Old Jun 17, 2004 | 09:57 PM
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Well the 6 speed box is now installed, the old gearbox used to flap around on the mounting but the new one doesnt with the Group N mount

Interesting though, there seems to be more electrical connections on the new one compared to the old one.

Will try and get some piccies....
Old Jun 17, 2004 | 10:21 PM
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old one possible still fitted with mechanical speedo cable, also there maybe a gearbox temp sensor that feeds the ECU, there is certainly a rear diff temp sensor on the US sti

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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 11:00 AM
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conrad.. I posted pics ages ago..

Use the loom from the old box...

reverse and neutral switch + vss sensor is only needed. (ahh mental block.. new ecu.)
Old Jun 18, 2004 | 07:25 PM
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Theoretically though...everything should match up, new ECU, loom & matching gearbox I hope.

Paul, checked ECU pinouts, nothing obvious, will know more when engine goes in tommorow and look is all plugged in, spare wires for the gearbox hopefully.
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Ermmmmmm......

New Clutch & Flywheel fitted this morning

Engine lifted into place and bolted up nicely on the new Group N mounts.

Problem no 1:

Old Speedo Drive is Mechanical and New Gearbox is Electronic.... DOH!

I can feel this so called MINIproject within a project is going to get bigger day By day.... STi 7 dashboard here we come.

Piccies to follow.


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Old Jun 19, 2004 | 05:21 PM
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ooh Look.... Version 7 STi Motor & Box in a Classic Wagon



and another...



6 Speed box, sensor for..... and the dipstick hole, dipstick away for grinding



Another engine shot...



Engine in, Now time to fit the new age inlet manifold - Reversed



Voila... wiring adjusted to make idle control, map sensor and throttle pot wiring reach the new positions of the sensors.



Hangover kicking in, got the shakes, need a beer to stop it



Oh Bollocks....Certainly looks like the new age manifold will catch the bonnet from this angle! **** it, will cut another hole in the bonnet!


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Old Jun 20, 2004 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Conrad_Bradley
Old Speedo Drive is Mechanical and New Gearbox is Electronic.... DOH!
I have the same problem. What ways is there to overcome this????

I really don't want to go to all the trouble of fitting a new dash.

Old Jun 20, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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Conrad, that picture of the sensor and breather for the 6 speed.... the breather is for the dipstick
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you could use a jap wrx speedo cable.. then wire the existing speedo output from the clocks to the new ecu..

Will explain via phone if its easier conrad.

or fit uk clocks

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Old Jun 21, 2004 | 04:39 PM
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bonnet will clear, it's convexed
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good new's there then
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by the time you have a samco on that, i would be surprised if it cleared.
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It clears in a legacy turbo. I suspect it will be fine in a scooby too. You will need a silicon hose with a bend in it to link the throttle body to your fmic piping.
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moray, is that with the phase 3 inlet as conrad is using?
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Yes.. with tumble generators too.

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Update:

Been overseas so things moving a little slower,

Decided to get all the ancillaries fitted that will be on the big engine and make sure everything fits. Also need to make a template for the wastegate takeoff on the slip jointed uppipe.

Gruppe-S Headers fitted, Slip jointed uppipe fitted, Turbo fitted , downpipe fitted, new full exhaust system fitted.

Ahh yes, No room what so ever for the large Turbosmart external wastegate, its going to be tight.

Piccies to follow......

Going to worry about the speedo problem after I've got the engine running

Bonnet clearance shouldnt be an issue, I can always mill the tumbler housings a bit smaller.

Conrad

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Yes.. with tumble generators too.

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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 04:44 PM
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Did I miss something here, What happened to the individual throttle boddies?

Or is that still further down the line?

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Old Jun 25, 2004 | 05:00 PM
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thats on the other engine afaik.
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RB5 I think you missed this post.


Originally Posted by Conrad_Bradley
UPDATE

Engine is out of the wagon and SOLD, Gearbox has been removed but has not been sold as of yet.

This week......

1. 6 Speed Gearbox is being fitted
2. Paddle clutch is being fitted
3. Propshaft is being shortened 60mm.


With the length of time the BIG engine is taking to get built I have decided to undertake a small project to get the car up & running. We are going to fit the STI Version 7 Engine (That I was trying to sell to no avail) into my wagon this week complete with STI Version 7/8 Wiring and ECU (to control the AVCS). It will be supported with the large intercooler / radiator assembly as seen above, a TD05 turbo and new up-pipe and down pipe.

Hopefully by Friday the engine and box transplant should be complete and all bolted up with the new Group N / Prodrive mounts.

Additionally, to run the big intercooler I am going to turn the new age inlet manifold round so the throttle body faces the front of the car, this will require a spool piece making up to change the angle of it and stop it catching the bonnet. Hopefully this will get done this week also.

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Thanks, It all makes sense now!

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Originally Posted by Conrad_Bradley
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Going to worry about the speedo problem after I've got the engine running

Conrad
Will it start with an ECU fault showing for no speedo connection ?
Old Jun 28, 2004 | 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by vulnax999
Will it start with an ECU fault showing for no speedo connection ?

Aquired the dashboard, wiring, diagnostic port and clocks from MY03 STi so hopefully problems will be avoided
Old Jun 28, 2004 | 10:41 PM
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git..

Can I come have a look whilst your fiitting?

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Originally Posted by David_Wallis
git..

Can I come have a look whilst your fiitting?

David

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Of Course m8.
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David,
Remember to keep your hands in your pockets!!
We know how clumsy you are when it comes to cars

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