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13 November 2003, 07:43 PM
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Can i just say I am still interested Windows and cant wait either but Have heard some disastourous stories of Turbo wear on using Antilag mate so just let everyone know to be careful how and when you use it.
13 November 2003, 09:00 PM
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A word of warning to anyone thinking of Anti-lag. You'll have to modify your brake servo so that the pedal doesn't become solid when its switched on.
14 November 2003, 12:28 AM
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Our brakes work on "vacuum" assistance, so if you run ALS, you lose the servo, because you don't have vacuum with ALS.
You have three choices, either put up with them the way they'll be, have a solid shaft fitted in the brake MC to help, or have a vacuum pump fitted.
Mark.
You have three choices, either put up with them the way they'll be, have a solid shaft fitted in the brake MC to help, or have a vacuum pump fitted.
Mark.
14 November 2003, 07:02 AM
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Antilag is "mapped" in on the gems is it not?
Friends rally car has Gems fitted, using Antilag on a TD04 for 2 years now, with no problems.
It all depends on how much Antilag is used.
We wont be seeing that much Antilag that it will "destroy" turbo's.
Friends rally car has Gems fitted, using Antilag on a TD04 for 2 years now, with no problems.
It all depends on how much Antilag is used.
We wont be seeing that much Antilag that it will "destroy" turbo's.
14 November 2003, 11:48 AM
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Thanks to Mark Aigan for answering that, I think you put it better than I could have. It was just a little item that we overlooked with my mates car!
14 November 2003, 02:04 PM
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Just a quick note about the credit card cheques and the money etc...
beware of any card which lets you transfer funds, or use credit card cheques - they class them as CASH WITHDRAWLs. that means you dont get the interest free period you do when you buy goods, and you will get stitched up royally on the interest rate which is applied immediately on withdrawl, sometimes as much as 10% over the normal rate for purchasing good! beware!
a very simple way to transfer funds is by 'laundering' it through a service such as paypal. Set up a paypal account, register your card. set up a second paypal account in your wife/girlfriend/mates name - or maybe someone you know who already has one, and then "buy" some 'services' off them. you/they withdraw your funds into your account, and the card company sees it as a purchse. you get the 6 weeks interest free, and the normal interest rate. paypal gets a tiny slice of the transaction, but nowhere near what the card companies would stitch you up for!
the more observant of you will also have noticed that this is a way to juggle your card balances by using one card to pay another.
because you get the 6 weeks interest free, you can stave off paying your credit card bill indefinately all for the price of a paypal transaction.
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beware of any card which lets you transfer funds, or use credit card cheques - they class them as CASH WITHDRAWLs. that means you dont get the interest free period you do when you buy goods, and you will get stitched up royally on the interest rate which is applied immediately on withdrawl, sometimes as much as 10% over the normal rate for purchasing good! beware!
a very simple way to transfer funds is by 'laundering' it through a service such as paypal. Set up a paypal account, register your card. set up a second paypal account in your wife/girlfriend/mates name - or maybe someone you know who already has one, and then "buy" some 'services' off them. you/they withdraw your funds into your account, and the card company sees it as a purchse. you get the 6 weeks interest free, and the normal interest rate. paypal gets a tiny slice of the transaction, but nowhere near what the card companies would stitch you up for!
the more observant of you will also have noticed that this is a way to juggle your card balances by using one card to pay another.
because you get the 6 weeks interest free, you can stave off paying your credit card bill indefinately all for the price of a paypal transaction.
/2ob
14 November 2003, 02:19 PM
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Just had a reply from Steve, some good news!!!!
FYI just taken order for WRX 02 ECU from guy who was not aware of Group buy....so to be fair I will put him in the "pot" to help the numbers.Have another 2 possibles also - so will do the same if they go for it.
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scooby-si
chrisgarner
ademid
RB5_245
jasetheace
scottsubaru555
Sith
KEVWRX95
Wizard
WRX 02(Possibly 2 more from Steve)
WE only need 4 more confirmed customers now for the group buy to go a head!!
ademid, Townend Garage have a CC facility, so Steve may be preparied to accept payment by credit card.
Thanks for that dead_neurons
FYI just taken order for WRX 02 ECU from guy who was not aware of Group buy....so to be fair I will put him in the "pot" to help the numbers.Have another 2 possibles also - so will do the same if they go for it.
Windows
scooby-si
chrisgarner
ademid
RB5_245
jasetheace
scottsubaru555
Sith
KEVWRX95
Wizard
WRX 02(Possibly 2 more from Steve)
WE only need 4 more confirmed customers now for the group buy to go a head!!
ademid, Townend Garage have a CC facility, so Steve may be preparied to accept payment by credit card.
Thanks for that dead_neurons
14 November 2003, 02:29 PM
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Dead Neurons hit what I found right on the head. Thats why I couldn't do the credit card cheque.
If it can be done through Town End gargage then I'm in again!!!
Woo Hoo ALS he I come!!!!
Ade
If it can be done through Town End gargage then I'm in again!!!
Woo Hoo ALS he I come!!!!
Ade
15 November 2003, 07:18 PM
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Come on people hurry up and get on the list!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I need +300 bhp and +300 lbs/torque I need to slap a few super cars
I need +300 bhp and +300 lbs/torque I need to slap a few super cars
16 November 2003, 09:50 AM
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Nice one Neal
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ukbob
WRX 02(Possibly 2 more from Steve)
3 more is all we need and we can get this rolling
ademid Can you please give Steve Simpson a call on 07836 635001 cheers
The group buy prices are as follows
All prices are installed and mapped by Steve Simpson and include AIT in intercooler.
1.All models to 96 MY(4 plug ECU) up to 1.2 Bar : £1200 + VAT
2.All models to 96 MY(4 plug ECU) over 1.2 Bar :£1250 + VAT (Delco 3 Bar map sensor)
3.All models 97-98 MY (3 plug ECU) up to 1.8 Bar :£1100 + VAT
4.All models 99-00MY on (3 grey plug ECU) up to 1.8 Bar £1300 + VAT
5.All models 01-03 MY (5 white plug ECU) with 3 bar sensor : £1395 + VAT
1 - 5 all have ALS, water spray/injection control, closed loop boost control (3D map),individual cylinder fuelling and ignition.
4 + 5 also have launch control, switchable fuel maps (say Optimax and normal unleaded etc..), mappable ECD if fitted to gearbox,closed loop idle speed control,active knock correction.
Steve can do a dual fuel map on option 1,2 and 3 ECU's. (4 plug pre96, 3 plug 97/98)
It can only change ignition timing - not fuelling as well as on the other systems, but is fine for "pump" fuel variations.
Options 1+2 also have closed loop idle - but not quite as sophisticated as option 4+5.
The antilag switch is included in price - there are no hidden extras!!
Although Steve/GEMS have insisted on doing the initial mapping, people are free to purcahse the software themselves for subsequent use if they wish.
Steve would do this at cost...£150 for software,£20 for comms lead.
If the cars are all running well - then we should be able to do 2 per day - maybe 3 if we work late!
What Steve mean's by cars running well is that all the common Impreza faults need to be eliminated prior to mapping ;coil packs on early cars,fuel pumps - which can struggle above 1.2 bar if they are getting tired -, new spark plugs etc.
He would recommend that all the customers fit a uprated pump unless the car is relatively new prior to doing the work - but he will usually talk through this with the customer before we do the job to get a little history on the car, and then advise accordingly.
Steve can install and map the ECU at Townend Garage or at the your home - whichever is most convenient for you (the customer)
If he has to travel he will charge £0.15p per mile to cover running costs.
Townend Garage is in Lancashire
Townend Garage
This above prices are for a minimum order of 15.
There is no closing date, but we need to have confirmed 15 orders for the deal to go ahead
Steve can't do credit cards - but a cheque is fine.
He is normally booked out 2-3 weeks in advance, so once we have the "critical mass (15)" then we will be looking at starting after this period.
What Steve has sugested is once we have the 15, we can send him a cheque for 50% of the price and then we can proceed from there.
So as soon as we have the 15, we can send Steve a cheque for 50% of the price and arrange with Steve when to get the GEMS fitted and mapped, wether that be December, January, Febuary......
Windows
scooby-si
chrisgarner
ademid
RB5_245
jasetheace
scottsubaru555
Sith
KEVWRX95
Wizard
ukbob
WRX 02(Possibly 2 more from Steve)
3 more is all we need and we can get this rolling
ademid Can you please give Steve Simpson a call on 07836 635001 cheers
The group buy prices are as follows
All prices are installed and mapped by Steve Simpson and include AIT in intercooler.
1.All models to 96 MY(4 plug ECU) up to 1.2 Bar : £1200 + VAT
2.All models to 96 MY(4 plug ECU) over 1.2 Bar :£1250 + VAT (Delco 3 Bar map sensor)
3.All models 97-98 MY (3 plug ECU) up to 1.8 Bar :£1100 + VAT
4.All models 99-00MY on (3 grey plug ECU) up to 1.8 Bar £1300 + VAT
5.All models 01-03 MY (5 white plug ECU) with 3 bar sensor : £1395 + VAT
1 - 5 all have ALS, water spray/injection control, closed loop boost control (3D map),individual cylinder fuelling and ignition.
4 + 5 also have launch control, switchable fuel maps (say Optimax and normal unleaded etc..), mappable ECD if fitted to gearbox,closed loop idle speed control,active knock correction.
Steve can do a dual fuel map on option 1,2 and 3 ECU's. (4 plug pre96, 3 plug 97/98)
It can only change ignition timing - not fuelling as well as on the other systems, but is fine for "pump" fuel variations.
Options 1+2 also have closed loop idle - but not quite as sophisticated as option 4+5.
The antilag switch is included in price - there are no hidden extras!!
Although Steve/GEMS have insisted on doing the initial mapping, people are free to purcahse the software themselves for subsequent use if they wish.
Steve would do this at cost...£150 for software,£20 for comms lead.
If the cars are all running well - then we should be able to do 2 per day - maybe 3 if we work late!
What Steve mean's by cars running well is that all the common Impreza faults need to be eliminated prior to mapping ;coil packs on early cars,fuel pumps - which can struggle above 1.2 bar if they are getting tired -, new spark plugs etc.
He would recommend that all the customers fit a uprated pump unless the car is relatively new prior to doing the work - but he will usually talk through this with the customer before we do the job to get a little history on the car, and then advise accordingly.
Steve can install and map the ECU at Townend Garage or at the your home - whichever is most convenient for you (the customer)
If he has to travel he will charge £0.15p per mile to cover running costs.
Townend Garage is in Lancashire
Townend Garage
This above prices are for a minimum order of 15.
There is no closing date, but we need to have confirmed 15 orders for the deal to go ahead
Steve can't do credit cards - but a cheque is fine.
He is normally booked out 2-3 weeks in advance, so once we have the "critical mass (15)" then we will be looking at starting after this period.
What Steve has sugested is once we have the 15, we can send him a cheque for 50% of the price and then we can proceed from there.
So as soon as we have the 15, we can send Steve a cheque for 50% of the price and arrange with Steve when to get the GEMS fitted and mapped, wether that be December, January, Febuary......
16 November 2003, 08:12 PM
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Hi Guys is it at all possible to use townsend cc facilities, otherwise i will have to rob a milk float or empty one off john prescotts pockets.
Cheers Chris
Cheers Chris