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Old 30 October 2003, 12:32 PM
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I think if people find something offensive and there are enough of them to make sure it isn't some crank thing, then the least one can do is respect their feelings, don't you think?

I hadn't realised the term "Jap" was in any way offensive, what about Nippon?
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Old 30 October 2003, 12:32 PM
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To me, "chinky" just falls into the abbreviation category. Never really thought about it before, as i have absolutely no negative thoughts to Chinese people whatsoever, so it's just easier to say than Chinese. I'm sure that's true for the *vast* majority Andy.

Ho hum, the things we get upset about eh?
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Old 30 October 2003, 12:32 PM
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So i cant say nippon the back of the bike to my wife anymore???
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Old 30 October 2003, 12:35 PM
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I don't see how 'Nippon' could be offensive. It's part of the name of the national Japanese air-carrier (link).
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Old 30 October 2003, 12:37 PM
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Anyway... back to the original point. Exactly why is the term 'Jap' deemed offensive?
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Old 30 October 2003, 12:38 PM
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Some of the stuff you did to our POW's in the second world war was barbaric - you are lucky we still speak to you at all - so stop wasting my lunch hour reading this twoddle
Again I hope this isn't aimed at me!

Why?? Well during WW2 my grandfather who was the head of the village was tortured by Japanese soldiers! The Chinese people in Hong Kong fought their own war as well what was going on in Europe!

You want to hear some racist terms for the Japanese, you should speak to people from my fathers generation who watched his family get tortured! [img]images/smilies/mad.gif[/img]
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Old 30 October 2003, 12:39 PM
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The term ‘Jap’ originates from the days of World War II and was commonly used as an offensive slang term towards individuals of Japanese birth or decent.
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Old 30 October 2003, 12:40 PM
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This sounds like another crusader going on about what they feel is offensive and so flying the flag for everyone whether they want to be included or not! It seems like we are getting to the point that nothing can be said for fear of insulting someone, somewhere on this planet and that is ridiculous. Like what has already been posted, we wouldn't be buying these cars, be they UK or Jap spec if we were racist, its an abbreviated description for an inanimate (yes guys, our cars aren't human ) object!
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Old 30 October 2003, 12:44 PM
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***Some of the stuff you did to our POW's in the second world war was barbaric - you are lucky we still speak to you at all - so stop wasting my lunch hour reading this twoddle****

so will this apply to us Brits and yanks in the future.... Cos at the end of the day..we might not be starting up our own Ikea lightshade dept......... but we are still torturing thousands in many other ways...
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And what is it Japs call us foreigners????
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Old 30 October 2003, 12:46 PM
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If it's good enough for Prince Philip,then ..........

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Old 30 October 2003, 12:48 PM
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Matt - no, no, no, no and a million times more NO!!!

The English do NOT use Taff, Jock or Paddy in a derogatory way. That is just what you have been brought up to believe. Trust me!
I know mate, you're the only one that bit
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Old 30 October 2003, 12:49 PM
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Again I hope this isn't aimed at me!
No Andy I'm with you, I think it is a bit hypocritical for the very first post to be mortally offended that American soldiers abbreviated the word Japanese to Jap in WW2 and that we still use it today. As you have touched on I'm pretty sure they would have deserved a much worse nickname for some of the depraved tortures they performed. We have forgotten and forgiven that animal behaviour so the first guy should forgive us the use of the word Jap especially since we use it in a friendly way today. It is no worse than calling a Subaru a scooby the way people mean it.
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Old 30 October 2003, 12:49 PM
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The term ‘Jap’ originates from the days of World War II and was commonly used as an offensive slang term towards individuals of Japanese birth or decent.
...in wartime I imagine that many references to people from an opposing nation could well be offensive. There would have been many more racial tensions than exist now. 'Jap' is just short for Japanese or Japan. Why is that offensive now?
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Old 30 October 2003, 12:50 PM
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If it's good enough for Prince Philip,then ..........
Comments like from someone with a Greek origin married to a German wife, and pretending to be English, what more can you say!!!

[Edited by Andy Tang - 10/30/2003 12:51:19 PM]
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Old 30 October 2003, 12:50 PM
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Old 30 October 2003, 12:53 PM
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Lol Telboy

Born in Basingstoke, moved to Wales aged 3, took my fair share of Sassenach at school!!
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Old 30 October 2003, 12:55 PM
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roflmfao.

some people are so pathetic.

it seems to me the only people who dont get offended by slag names are british pure and bred. every fekker else jumps on a band wagon, Japanese cars WILL be knows as a Jap Import. full stop shut the fek up and get on with your life. sticks and stones etc....

some people really need to get a fekking life. do u see me moaning that some1 just called me a brit when Im on holiday. no u didnt so shatttt itttttttt!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 30 October 2003, 12:55 PM
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If I ask a white person in my office "where are you from?" then they will give me a straight answer - "Watford etc" but if I ask a black person then they usually take offence to the question. Why?

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Old 30 October 2003, 12:55 PM
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I would have thought that the term JAP would have been derived in the English language regardless of any wars occuring. In fact I bet if no world wars had ever occurred and everything was as nice as pie and racism never existed. I bet we would still derive the term JAP through the simple evolution of the English language.
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Old 30 October 2003, 12:59 PM
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What's wrong with people these days? Everyone is so weak, limp wristed and sensitive. Why do you need to start crying because someone has used a word you find offensive? Get on with life. Ignore it. Water off a duck's back etc.
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Old 30 October 2003, 01:00 PM
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A few Prince Philip words of wisdom:

After accepting a gift from a Kenyan native he replied, "You are a woman aren't you?"

After the Dunblane massacre : "If a cricketer decided to go into a school and batter people to death with his bat, are we going to ban cricket bats?"

Told a student from Brunei how sorry he was that the student had to fly to Glasgow.

During a WWF (world wildlife fund, not world wrestling federation) visit he refused to touch a Koala bear as "It will be riddled with ghastly diseases"

On visiting Brunei, our Phil, who was tired and disoriented after a 14 hour flight, pointed his index finger, while talking to the Sultan of Brunei's First Wife. This is an insult of the highest order. A palace spokesman later tried to smooth the incident over with an unlikely story that the prince was pointing at something in the sky, and not at a person.

"If it has four legs and is not a chair, has wings and is not an aeroplane, or swims and is not a submarine the Cantonese will eat it"

Welcomed Fat former German chancellor Helmut Kohl as 'Reichskanzler' The title Hitler gave to himself and has never been used since.

Suggested locals were cannibals on a visit to Papua New Guinea by saying to a British student "You managed not to get eaten then?"

Said to a wealthy Cayman Islander, "Aren't you all descended from pirates?"

Asked a Scottish driving instructor "How do you keep the natives off the booze, long enough for them to pass their test"

Told a group of deaf school children at a fund raising event standing next to a Jamaican steel drum band, which was clearly not to Phil The Greek's Liking :-
"Deaf? No wonder you are deaf, standing so close to that racket"

Recently describing Brazil, he quipped that it would be paradise, if it weren't for the Brazilians.

On a visit to China he described Peking as "ghastly" and said that if you stay too long there you will become "slitty eyed"

Told a student in Budapest that "You can't have been in Budapest that long because you haven't got a pot-belly"

In India visiting a site where the British army, in the years of the Empire, had slaughtered Indian civilians, He was shown a plaque commemorating the 2000 killed to which he quipped "No, no, we didn't slaughter that many"

Told a mother who had recently lost two sons in a house fire that:-
"smoke alarms are a damn nuisance"

On touring a factory in Edinburgh, he told a group of workers that a fuse box "Doesn't look like it's been fitted by a cowboy, more like the Indians"
Though he did apologise to the Indian Community soon after (10th Aug. 1999)

After asking a portly young boy what he wanted to do when he grew up, and getting the answer An Astronaught, he quipped, " best start shedding a few pounds then! "

On a tour of Austrailia, after observing a demonstration of aborigonal spear dancing, he asked, "do you still throw those things at each other then? ", to which he got the short reply, "no we don't go in for that sort of thing anymore"

And later on the same day he was allegedly heard asking a wheelchair user if they got in the way all the time.

An inspiration to us all & you doubt his multicultural awareness

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Old 30 October 2003, 01:03 PM
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I'm sure the ladies would like to know if you have a big python

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Old 30 October 2003, 01:04 PM
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The term ‘Jap’ originates from the days of World War II and was commonly used as an offensive slang term towards individuals of Japanese birth or decent.

come on dont be daft! they were merely abbriviating! as ppl probably did b4 the war.

so if someone started a war against britain 2moz and called us brits would it suddenyl become an offensive word??? get real.

andy, the comment wasnt to you. it was about the jap/japanese thing, i do class "chinky" under a race thing not an abreviation as it is infact not and abbreiviation of chinese at all. but jap is just merely an abbreviation
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Old 30 October 2003, 01:04 PM
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MattW.

I thought Sassenach was a Scottish term.

We would call you Sais.

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Old 30 October 2003, 01:07 PM
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Phil the greek is a class act, proper old fashioned royal with all the tact of a sledgehammer in the face. I like him, he makes the royal family look worse than they already are.
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Old 30 October 2003, 01:11 PM
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Thanks Dunk - we're well aware of the ramblings of that old buffoon. It's a shame our illustrious leaders can be such liabilities.
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Old 30 October 2003, 01:11 PM
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It's a perception question. Even if we use the term quite innocently, without malice or derogatory intent, if Japanese people perceive it as an insult, then it is a problem (if they hear it or read it).

Is Keigo representative of all Japanese people ? I'll have to ask friends over here and see what their views are.

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Old 30 October 2003, 01:14 PM
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There is no way I'm reading 6 pages of tosh on this. We use the term Jap to describe our cars being japanese imports we are not leveling this term at a human being, thus how can it be said we're being racist. What is the car going to do, sue us for being racist, come on, really, if we were talking aobut japanese people then fair enoug, but we are not.

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Old 30 October 2003, 01:16 PM
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Surprised this hasn't been nipped in the bud?
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