1/4 Mile question - Am I being Stupid??????
04 October 2003, 03:45 PM
#62
does it really matter though?
To me 0-100, 0-60 times are completely useless.
What matters is in gear acceleration time, these would be much more usefull if the magazines, manufacturers printed these. It's good to see Prodrive do supply these figures. http://www.prodrive.com/uploads/03MY%20STi%20PPP.pdf
According to the road dyno on Delta Dash, 2 up with half a tank of fuel mine does.
In Gear Acceleration 3rd gear:
STi5RA STi8PPP STi8Standard
30 - 50mph = 2.4 seconds 2.7 seconds 2.9 seconds
40 - 60mph = 2.0 seconds 2.4 seconds 2.4 seconds
50 - 70mph = 2.1 seconds 2.6 seconds 2.7 seconds
In Gear Acceleration 4th gear:
STi5RA STi8PPP STi8Standard
40 - 60mph = 3.0 seconds 3.1 seconds 3.9 seconds
50 - 70mph = 2.6 seconds 3.0 seconds 3.4 seconds
60 - 80mph = 2.6 seconds 3.2 seconds 3.9 seconds
70 - 90mph = 2.9 seconds 3.5 seconds 4.2 seconds
so 30-90 takes 7.4 seconds in a 300BHP STi5 TypeRA using 3rd and 4th, an STi8PPP takes 8.8 seconds and an standard STi8 TypeUK takes 9.8 seconds using the same gears.
That kind of puts into perspective how shatering the performance of a very mildly tuned RA is with an almost identical power/torque curve to an STi8PPP and how it absolutely eats for breakfast a stock STi8 TypeUK. It also shows how fast in the real world an STi8PPP is. Those are impresive figures for a heavy saloon car, especially when you consider the allround ability the car has.
[Edited by johnfelstead - 10/4/2003 4:03:47 PM]
To me 0-100, 0-60 times are completely useless.
What matters is in gear acceleration time, these would be much more usefull if the magazines, manufacturers printed these. It's good to see Prodrive do supply these figures. http://www.prodrive.com/uploads/03MY%20STi%20PPP.pdf
According to the road dyno on Delta Dash, 2 up with half a tank of fuel mine does.
In Gear Acceleration 3rd gear:
STi5RA STi8PPP STi8Standard
30 - 50mph = 2.4 seconds 2.7 seconds 2.9 seconds
40 - 60mph = 2.0 seconds 2.4 seconds 2.4 seconds
50 - 70mph = 2.1 seconds 2.6 seconds 2.7 seconds
In Gear Acceleration 4th gear:
STi5RA STi8PPP STi8Standard
40 - 60mph = 3.0 seconds 3.1 seconds 3.9 seconds
50 - 70mph = 2.6 seconds 3.0 seconds 3.4 seconds
60 - 80mph = 2.6 seconds 3.2 seconds 3.9 seconds
70 - 90mph = 2.9 seconds 3.5 seconds 4.2 seconds
so 30-90 takes 7.4 seconds in a 300BHP STi5 TypeRA using 3rd and 4th, an STi8PPP takes 8.8 seconds and an standard STi8 TypeUK takes 9.8 seconds using the same gears.
That kind of puts into perspective how shatering the performance of a very mildly tuned RA is with an almost identical power/torque curve to an STi8PPP and how it absolutely eats for breakfast a stock STi8 TypeUK. It also shows how fast in the real world an STi8PPP is. Those are impresive figures for a heavy saloon car, especially when you consider the allround ability the car has.
[Edited by johnfelstead - 10/4/2003 4:03:47 PM]
14 October 2003, 03:40 PM
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thanks for the info john, nice to see you again ( virtually anyways & i hope yr car is now well) interesting stuff I agree that in gear speeds are more real world than the 0-100 etc pub talk stuff it was just that figures didnt seem to stack up
thanks all
hawk
ps john if you read this I appreciate a bit of valued help with a brake problem i have, ive posted it in the relevant section
[Edited by hawkeye - 10/14/2003 3:42:31 PM]
thanks all
hawk
ps john if you read this I appreciate a bit of valued help with a brake problem i have, ive posted it in the relevant section
[Edited by hawkeye - 10/14/2003 3:42:31 PM]
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