ok, what the hell is the best handling fwd car then?
01 October 2003, 09:41 PM
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MINI Cooper,
Saxo VTS/106GTi,
Proper Mini with decent tyres,
MG ZS 180,
New shape Clio.
All of the above handle very well as standard, although the new Cooper is the "best" IMHO, as not only does it grip, you know exactly what's going on beneath you. Same as the proper Mini, only the proper Mini has less grip. The VTS/GTi can't match them on feel, nor can the Clio. The MG was too grippy!
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Saxo VTS/106GTi,
Proper Mini with decent tyres,
MG ZS 180,
New shape Clio.
All of the above handle very well as standard, although the new Cooper is the "best" IMHO, as not only does it grip, you know exactly what's going on beneath you. Same as the proper Mini, only the proper Mini has less grip. The VTS/GTi can't match them on feel, nor can the Clio. The MG was too grippy!
Rich
01 October 2003, 09:49 PM
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Corradoboy, I accept what you are saying, havent driven one so I cant comment but I must say that I drive a lot of cars and most dont really do it for me like my Golf, Scoob being the exception.
and on the 8 inches, I often quote 8 inches but really mean 2 !
and on the 8 inches, I often quote 8 inches but really mean 2 !
01 October 2003, 10:42 PM
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Integra Type R - EVERY TIME, if youve never owned one youll never understand exactly how focussed this car is. Things to mention on it: LSD,front strut brace, 2 rear braces, lightweight car, big brakes, amazing engine/gearbox the list goes on, they are amazing cars.
I have owned the following: ITR, 306 GTI and Mk1 106 Rallye
the order for these 3 is
ITR
106
306
I have owned the following: ITR, 306 GTI and Mk1 106 Rallye
the order for these 3 is
ITR
106
306
02 October 2003, 08:13 AM
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Hmm, I've only driven one FWD car in anger lately and that was really impressive so my vote would go to the Seat Leon CupraR.
However, as no one else has mentioned it I'll get my coat
However, as no one else has mentioned it I'll get my coat
03 October 2003, 01:45 PM
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From all the cars I have driven inc 205GTi, Clio 16V, Ren 19 16V, Golf GTi etc I'd have to say either.
Fiat Strada Abarth 130TC
Honda Integra Type R
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Fiat Strada Abarth 130TC
Honda Integra Type R
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05 October 2003, 01:45 PM
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I've driven a fair few FWD cars. My favorites for handling alone would be as follows:
1) Ford Focus RS
2) Honda Integra Type-R
3) Ford Racing Puma
4) Pug 205 GTI
5) Pug 306 Rallye
The Racing Puma had incredible handling - when it appeared people put it on a par with the Elise, which is incredible for a FWD car. I'd rate the Focus RS and ITR has higher though because the Puma just didn't have enough power to really exploit the handling.
The 205 was the daddy for lift off oversteer, but I have a suspicion that if you got out of an ITR or an FRS into either of those Pugs they wouldn't feel quite so great. They were good for their time, but things have moved on a bit.
1) Ford Focus RS
2) Honda Integra Type-R
3) Ford Racing Puma
4) Pug 205 GTI
5) Pug 306 Rallye
The Racing Puma had incredible handling - when it appeared people put it on a par with the Elise, which is incredible for a FWD car. I'd rate the Focus RS and ITR has higher though because the Puma just didn't have enough power to really exploit the handling.
The 205 was the daddy for lift off oversteer, but I have a suspicion that if you got out of an ITR or an FRS into either of those Pugs they wouldn't feel quite so great. They were good for their time, but things have moved on a bit.
05 October 2003, 06:26 PM
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Citroen Xsara kit car (competed in the FWD class of the world rally championships a couple years ago).
Normally aspirated, 9,000rpm, FWD, quicker on tarmac than the blown 300bhp 4x4 rally cars.
Normally aspirated, 9,000rpm, FWD, quicker on tarmac than the blown 300bhp 4x4 rally cars.
05 October 2003, 07:03 PM
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oops been away a couple of days, nice ot see some good answers 
Hmm maybe I should have put best handling mass produced fwd car, the xsara while it will be amazing is pretty much a one off.
Hmm maybe I should have put best handling mass produced fwd car, the xsara while it will be amazing is pretty much a one off.
