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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 08:32 AM
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nod m8 as i have been told lean is bad and can make the mota go bang!
rich is better but boy oh boy doe's my fuel gauge go down fast
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 10:19 AM
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Mornin all

I've got a bad head today That'll be the 9 pints of Stella then It was wierd going to a Scooby meet without my Scoob and drinking alcohol!!!

So what's this about Becky and Zebedee???

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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 10:24 AM
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 10:27 AM
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yeh steve' becky decided that cause john has got the rally sticker's on his scoob that she would over take him as he was going to slow in his turbo, and she showed him how to drive

ya still comin sat day afty?

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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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morning old fella and all...


poor poor john!

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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 10:39 AM
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Ads, when you fitted your fmic did you notice any more turbo lag?
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 10:45 AM
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HA! I'll have to wind him up about that one then!!!!

Yep - 2moro afternoon for the spoiler, can't wait! Can we fit my oil pressure sender as well??? I hope it's not raining
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 10:49 AM
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old..it does come on boost slightly lower..but i have a few other mods also..so not sure if its the whole package(headers etc)...

but it pulls well enough

if you fancy a ride..let us know..(you thinking of getting one??)

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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 10:53 AM
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ads, my masterplan (this week) as it constantly changes, is to mod brakes/suspension first then look for some more get up and go, so intercooler would be on the list. Big John mentioned getting made some bigger tmic, I was just wondering about the lag thing with fmic
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 11:01 AM
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oldfella, im gonna go for a bigger tmic.
mine worked better then ads at shootout cos of the hot weather, by the time ads had enough cold air flowing through it 1/4mile was over.

i hope next year is hot too or he's gonna do me
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 11:04 AM
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Nod, I am no authority on this but I think that you are right over the short distances, I think the choice of cooler depends on what you intend to use the car for, ie sprinting v longer distance
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 11:04 AM
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nods..i have some ideas about that



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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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9 Stellas Steve?

I'd have been chucking by then! That's over a gallon you know... more expensive than petrol

Glad you all had a nice night - I was in bed at 8:45 And it's still raining.
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 11:20 AM
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my car revs out at 125 so i wont get much benefit from fmic, they really start to work well about 100. only reason i keep up with ads at 100+ is cos of my short gears with different gears i would probably go for front mount but my car will work better with tmic

what plans you got ads? CO2 spray?
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 11:23 AM
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Fancy that, Lofty does 9 miles per gallon, that's better than PUM
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 11:27 AM
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nod mate..why not just fit a uk 5th gear?

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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 11:30 AM
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nod mate..why not just fit a uk 5th gear?

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HELL NO!!!!!
i like the acceleration, no lag and it pulls 5th like it does 2nd
and in 1/4 mile i have to use top gear, dont want to put it in 5th and bog down
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 11:40 AM
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yer..but yer missing the top speed runs though..?
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 11:51 AM
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who wants top speed runs, my car is used 99.9% on the road its not very often i get up to 125.
i prefer my acceleration, not many cars can keep up with me in a top gear roll on on the bypass
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 11:59 AM
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each to there own i suppose..

i like to have another gear left at that speed.....
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 12:04 PM
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nods mate..hers something andy f said in the last few days..
"11.66 @ 127mph my old WRX RA was running, that was on standard internals and a 99 UK gearbox, the RA ratios were slightly slower at 11.7 mainly due to the extra gearchange required.
As for how long it will last, well it now has a new owner and is still going strong Thats over 2 years now it has held the UK 1/4 mile title
(2 years 4 months to be exact )
I think the new owner may be about to 'perk it up' a little too......which is nice

Andy"

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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 12:05 PM
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FMIC is far better than TMIC on hot days. Only reason you were better than ads at the shoot out is due to the stupid level of boost you were running, adam will have still been running standard scooby ecu boost of 14 to 16psi, not 22psi.

You dont need to be up to 100 for it to work, it actually cools the air charge down quicker than a TMIC on the scoobs, due to the airflow and air available.
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 12:14 PM
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lofty just after 12 will be spot on m8
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 12:24 PM
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I got a bit carried away watching the football in the pub and consumed 6 pints during the game! Then I had another one after the match finished, then one in Country Park, then one in the pub in Willerby. I was actually pretty pi55ed after that lot!!! Or maybe it was just Phil's driving that made me feel that way???
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 12:26 PM
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lofty just after 12 will be spot on m8
Is it all finished and ready to go on then???
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 12:43 PM
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Originally Posted by P20SPD
FMIC is far better than TMIC on hot days. Only reason you were better than ads at the shoot out is due to the stupid level of boost you were running, adam will have still been running standard scooby ecu boost of 14 to 16psi, not 22psi.

You dont need to be up to 100 for it to work, it actually cools the air charge down quicker than a TMIC on the scoobs, due to the airflow and air available.
im not an expert but did you feel the heat of ads intercooler pipe? wasn't very cool, by time he got moving enough for it to cool i was gone.
and i only turned boost up for my last run, i was doing 13.2 and 13.3 every time at 19psi
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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which intercooler pipe, outlet from compressor or outlet from intercooler.

you cant touch the outlet from turbo on mine, its that hot, but the outlet from the intercooler to throttle body is cold. Adams should be the same.

perhaps i was misled by you turning the boost up then, but still 19psi is still quite a bit more than 16psi.

the TMIC gets too much heat soak on trackdays, and take a great deal of time to cool down.
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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Originally Posted by P20SPD
which intercooler pipe, outlet from compressor or outlet from intercooler.

you cant touch the outlet from turbo on mine, its that hot, but the outlet from the intercooler to throttle body is cold. Adams should be the same.

perhaps i was misled by you turning the boost up then, but still 19psi is still quite a bit more than 16psi.

the TMIC gets too much heat soak on trackdays, and take a great deal of time to cool down.
im not sure which pipe it was, but by time ads got to front of queue it was hot from heat soak.
im not saying your wrong, im sure fmic have advantages but going by my(very limited) experience, tmic worked for me and its the old slanty one which ive been told is crap. i think with an APS tmic i will get into 12's
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 02:36 PM
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Excuse me fellas but back to my original question would you expect increased turbo lag from fmic
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Old Jun 18, 2004 | 02:52 PM
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steve yeh final coats are drying as i type m8 will just need a quick polish 2moro

oldfella sorry to jump in but i would think you would get a little more turbo lag due to the extra lenth in the induction tract, then again all the little mod's that ads has done all add up and help each other work better...

nod/ steven the pipe that we felt at the shootout was the intercooler to inlet manifold and it was very warm not hot, i would expect this to be cold but on the day what with the sun and a bit of waiting to run again it bound to get hot

Steven how you doing with the gear box?
i got a new boost gauge that's a lot better than the one i had in and it is now giveing me a reading of 17psi peak and dropping back to 15psi,
have orderd a air/fuel meter as well.

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