Corpulent Tosser

AndyF

YHM

BTW are the seats suitable for a Corpulent chap

Andy.F

Well I'm only 12 stone but I rattle about from side to side ! I would say legroom may be more of an issue for some, I'd guess at 6 ft max and probably around 16 stone (ish)

catflap

Looks sweet good luck on the sale

If your thinking about it, a bird woudl be AWSOME quick, and at that price its a bargain

FASTER MIKE!!

what are these bec like compaired to the V8 SEiGHT's. do the V8' come into there own once they`re moving. just when looking in evo mag stats, the V8 does 9.4sec to 100mph

mike getting excited about V8's and bike engines

R.B

I think the megabusa is around 8-secs to 100 mph and around 12 secs for 0-100-0

catflap

Ive never had a v8 west pass me on track yet, in fact i was quite shocked at how easy i passed one or 2, considering how powerful some of them are, of course i don’t know how hard they were being driven my have been on cool down or warm up laps for all I know.

Id say in a line the v8`s are probably quicker, but the bec is quicker on brakes and corners due to light weight.. no proof of course just what people have told me, seems to make sense though

I do like a nice v8, and it suits a westy i may get one when i grow up a bit hooligan toy for now though

Jonto

zero_to60

so how much as an XTR2 from the factory?

R.B

Just a little bit more

TopBanana

If you were going to spend all that Wonga on an XTR2, you might as well go for a Radical instead

megabusa

Agreed.
IMO you want one as cheap as possible, then you can thrash it all over the place without worrying. This is of course unless you are loaded!
I reckon a five grand blade engined whatever would still bone you up solid.

Andy.F

Ouch

GaryC

Mmmmmm - not so sure about this. I've had a megablade for 18 months now, granted it has a steering wheel gear change which might make it quicker through the box, but when hoofing along with pals in STi's and EVOs, they can't get close except off the line. The megablade is not the easiest to get off the line quickly and a few yards is had by the AWD dump clutch of the 'Rally Reps', but I can soon catch and pass. Once on the go it is a no-brainer.

Furthermore, there is a 350bhp RWD sapphire cosworth near me that could better my old 279bhp Scoob in a straight line, that I can pull away from easily on straights. Just take the Power-to-weight ratio's....280bhp scoob c215bhp/tonne...(my) megablade 330bhp/tonne. Less transmission losses, quicker gearchanges, better (slightly) aerodynamics. I think the only way an STi would be quicker is if the blade is in a wrong gear when nailing it - very peaky engine, dead below 6k rpm, on song from 8k, peak power at c10800 rpm. Nail it at 4k and it won't pick up anything like it would at 8k.

As for the twisties, the only reason an impreza would be quicker is down to driver confidence/skill. Anyone can drive an AWD rally rep quicky and have their driving skill flattered, a RWD, non-driver aid 7 with 50% greater PWR takes infinitely more skill....but the car against car in the twisties, the megablade will be even more ahead than on the straights. 400kg Vs 1300kg, will be able to carry SO much more speed through the corners, brake far better, accelerate far better.....you will just need to be giving 10/10ths to get the full performance.

In reality, having owned both, the two cars are uncomparable. But bloody good fun One of each is the best option

Andy.F

I checked my Sylva/bird performance on my AP22 and it was equal to my lightweight scoob RA with 375 bhp up to 100 MPH, after that the aerodynamics started to hold the sylva back a bit.

Where it really surprised me was the cornering G force, the scoob, on Leda coilovers and sticky Yokohama grooved slicks pulled 1.15G The Sylva on the Avon ACB10's pulled 1.32G !! (on the same roundabout) That's almost 15% more. ie A corner the scoob could take at 70 mph, this would take at 80 mph !!
Plus it's perfectly balanced on the throttle mid corner, something I just can't do without drama in the scoob

Andy

Jonto

I can't wait for mine, it hurts !

catflap

The figures quoted for blades, don’t look so attractive when you add people, the scoob with its initial more power does not suffer so much when people are added.

We did some maths a while back on this and a blade with fuel and driver comes in at only 245bhp / T add to that the fact that a westy is fighting a loosing battle of wind resistance at higher speeds.

There are 2 of us with blades (both previous Scooby owners), and neither of us could match the straight line speed of a recently tested 280bhp scoob, both of us thrashing the cars up to just short of 12,000 revs. We did it on several occasions to see, and as soon as speeds reached 60 plus, you could slowly see the scoob level off, and then creep away.

Obviously your car may be lighter/suffer from less trans loss, be geared differently. (both of ours are geard unusually high at 3.6 and 3.5 (standard blades have 3.3 or 3.1 ratios)

Agree with you 100% about why scoobs would be quicker through twistys in the real world. Its dude to safety in my mind, I don’t think you can push a wetys 100% on twisty roads, well, as you say, scoobs are easer to drive fast.

This is nothing to do with the lack of ability of the car, just self preservation

Then again that’s why I sold mine, as it was getting boring, and the westy challenges you, and shows you just how much you have to learn about driving quick It demands a healthy amount of respect

D Hill 555

Megabusa.

RB IS LOADED

megabusa

Then a 20 grand Busa will REALLY bone him up solid!!!

Jonto

Good Thread !

GaryC

You need to lose weight then with me onboard (65kg) the PWR is only just under 300/tonne, add in 10 litres of fuel and I'm still c290bhp/tonne

slim Gaz

R.B

20k Megabusa will give me a bone

catflap

65kg?? how tall are you LOL

That means your car is 385kg WITH FUEL? that’s the lightest blade car in the uk, possible the world!!!!


Bhp Weight Bhp/Ton Driver Total Accurate Bhp/ton
135 385 350.65 65 450.00 300.00

That’s the figures you’ll need to get 300bhp with a 65kg driver

As Richard mils striker came in at around 390kg (forget the actual figure), Superb car!!

Both mine and Dodge t`s came in at 450kg with fuel, at a weighing session we saw a nice Caterham blade that was 400kg, and that was a little special


My car
Bhp Weight Bhp/Ton Driver Total Accurate Bhp/ton
135 453 298.01 77 530.00 254.72

Those were my figures at the weighing session, and also very similar to Westfield own claims, so cant be far wrong

Have you had your car on the scales? and dyno? Fair play though if you have, makes me wana shed some weight LOL



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R.B

Looks like i need to shed 30kg

GaryC

I'm a megre 5'5...(and fresh off a 5 week stint on a carb free diet that has gotten me possibly below 65kg )

Car weighs (or weighed at SVA) 404kg and pre-instalation dyno test showed engine at 139bhp.

Me+car = 469kg, add in 10litres of fuel (c10kg) brings it to 479kg.

139/.479 = 290.187bhp/tonne

Granted I think the weighing was pre-steering wheel gearchange system (which weighs 3kg or so) but was with boggo steering wheel (quick release now on and is c2kg lighter).

Forget tuning super-light sports cars...just lose weight. Best performance modification this side of driver training

catflap

Superb figures mate

What’s been done to your engine? Just jets and filter? or have you had any fettling done, its quite high for a standard blade engine, although they vary so much its not unusual.

Mine had 108 at rear wheels, TTS recon this as around 135 at crank, with their jets and filter. (my reverse box is gobbling up quite a bit)

Looking to get some head work and cams on it soon, just trying to pre guess what the engine will give out. im hoping for 145-150bhp at crank, a 10-15bhp gain for cams and head work sounds about right? Just guessing should get me closer to that 300bhp/t running weight J it’s a nice figure to aim for

Ive looked over my car and cant see many places to loose weight without spending big bucks so ill just have to loose the weight myself

GaryC

No idea what has been done, guy that built the car was a precision engineer and pro-carter that worked with a guy that tuned bike engines that 'helped him' . Nothing visible (but then I wouldn't know what to look for )

Eatpies

isnt it possible to turbocharge one as well? what are the relaibilty issues with this? if anyone knows

catflap

There is a chap on the wscc, who has just put some pics of his turbo blade lump up, it looks awesome, and he puts forward a convincing argument for the value for money on it, vs. other types of tuning and engines.

If I had 3k (sorry , WHEN) ill love a turbo, Should give out 190 gg`s at lowish boost. Seems like the way to go for big power(relatively speaking)

chris p1

I used to have a 300bhp Cosworth westfeild which was great fun,not to sure what the pwr was on it but it was faster in a straight line then my P1 for sure and LOADS faster on track.Have now sold it and have got a Radical it runs with a 1100cc bike engine with 165bhp and weighs around 450kg this is soooooooooooooo much faster then the Westfield and in a differant league to the Scooby,i know it's only a track car but what do you won't for only 8k. 0to60 is around 3 seconds and hits a 100mph in about 7,it's one of the fastest track cars you can have and for less then a very average Caterfield type car.I really don't know why everyone doesn't have one








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Andy.F

Excellent cars, wish I'd never sold mine now

Radical clubsport