Why are new houses built like sardines in a tin?
16 May 2003, 02:35 PM
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Yep they are going down in a few areas, but the trend is up(long term I.e over 5 years). So buy in 6 months time, cus if you wait you'll never afford it
P.s i'm not an estate agent
P.s i'm not an estate agent
16 May 2003, 10:21 PM
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Why don't people re-think these small boxes with 8 foot between them and go for really nice townhouse type terraces (as you find in London, Bath etc)? If land is at such a premium houses could be made to be much larger inside and nicer to live in while still having decent garden sizes?
Just a thought!
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Just a thought!
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16 May 2003, 11:02 PM
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New estate near me, with thirty odd houses, one of them is 4 bed semi, with only a garage, NO off raod parking at-all, except the garage, which is used as a shed due to a covenant on the site not allowing sheds!! and this house was for sale recently for 290k, and they have to park on the road!!!!!!!!!
290k for a 4 bed semi in Dorset.... LMAO, where was it...? Sandbanks? I think not.
[Edited by Cupramax - 5/16/2003 11:04:06 PM]
21 May 2003, 02:37 PM
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It isn't fair to blame the developers wanting to make excessive profits. It is mainly the govt. defining a minimum housing density for developments.
See this articlefor example.
You will now see 3 storey houses becoming the norm, with shared drives etc. to increase the density to meet govt. demands.
It could be argued that the developer is losing profit, because the selling price is lower than could be achieved for houses with large gardens, surrounding open spaces, etc.as many have suggested.
Give me low density every time.
See this articlefor example.
You will now see 3 storey houses becoming the norm, with shared drives etc. to increase the density to meet govt. demands.
It could be argued that the developer is losing profit, because the selling price is lower than could be achieved for houses with large gardens, surrounding open spaces, etc.as many have suggested.
Give me low density every time.
21 May 2003, 04:02 PM
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what i dont understand as a developer is the ridiculous attachment of a full vat charge on renovations.
17.5 percent is practically all youre profit so huge useful warehouse buildings in towns other than london (or small rarefied areas) go unused or are flattened for carparks.
We looked at the potential conversion of an old fashioned warehouse in an ideal location in Derby and because of vat and relatively low profit margins this building still sits undeveloped
so you work for nothing then saxoboy ?????????
[Edited by mattstant - 5/21/2003 4:05:16 PM]
17.5 percent is practically all youre profit so huge useful warehouse buildings in towns other than london (or small rarefied areas) go unused or are flattened for carparks.
We looked at the potential conversion of an old fashioned warehouse in an ideal location in Derby and because of vat and relatively low profit margins this building still sits undeveloped
This is 100% right, there is no other motivation for house builders!
[Edited by mattstant - 5/21/2003 4:05:16 PM]
21 May 2003, 07:25 PM
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At the end of the it's the purchasers fault. Buy it they build it. If there's a group of idiots happy to take on a mortgage 5 x joint salary to purchase a cramped tacky little hutch that's what will be offered.
But surely the planners have to take some responsibility. Having bought two new houses I can speak with some authority. They both had adequate space around them. Nice design well, it met our requirements.
But the critial point in all this is that land on both developments was divided amongst a number of different buildlers. Small local companies were allocated plots and housing density & % of open space was defined. Existing trees could only be dropped with formal approval, and in one case purchase was prohibited unless you lived/worked locally
A simple but succesful attempt to break the uniformity was applied. Houses were not constructed in row upon identical row. Each builder produced differing styles and mixed these through the development. Where the designs were repeated in a street the build was moved through 90 degrees/reversed from the ajacent plot.
Simply placing roofs the other way transforms the feel. Not rocket science is it?
Now we just have to contend with the residents who confound the planners vision. Leaving cars on the road when there is ample parking AND garage space and watching their kids litter the open spaces and break down trees.
Bye bye utopia, but thanks for your endeavors Mr Planner
But surely the planners have to take some responsibility. Having bought two new houses I can speak with some authority. They both had adequate space around them. Nice design well, it met our requirements.
But the critial point in all this is that land on both developments was divided amongst a number of different buildlers. Small local companies were allocated plots and housing density & % of open space was defined. Existing trees could only be dropped with formal approval, and in one case purchase was prohibited unless you lived/worked locally
A simple but succesful attempt to break the uniformity was applied. Houses were not constructed in row upon identical row. Each builder produced differing styles and mixed these through the development. Where the designs were repeated in a street the build was moved through 90 degrees/reversed from the ajacent plot.
Simply placing roofs the other way transforms the feel. Not rocket science is it?
Now we just have to contend with the residents who confound the planners vision. Leaving cars on the road when there is ample parking AND garage space and watching their kids litter the open spaces and break down trees.
Bye bye utopia, but thanks for your endeavors Mr Planner
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