trollhunter

So how come people say dont go true twin in the sup cause there is loads of lag , im auto BTW

trollhunter

So IF you had a supra (admit it you want one) what would you fit
HYBRIDS
TWINS
BIG SINGLE
talking an auto daily driver But not too daily

Mycroft

Becuase the pipework on the Supe is no good for parallel operation it has problems of heat and flow...

cryptwalk

Now that looks Pity the look crap standard. IMO.

Your a funny guy if not very tedious Mr Trollhunter, pepper, salt...

Thought of standup?

Mycroft

My friend Nick has a proper Jun true twin conversion... it is a great car... it really is... but it is not my style it just doesn't 'fit my skin'.

Mycroft

Cryptwalk... to make it look like that is so cheap and easy that it might shock you... the nose (full shark nose with slats removed and respray £550.. wheels well not cheap... £450 buys you the vented bonnet conversion....



[Edited by Mycroft - 4/24/2003 11:58:32 PM]

churchwa

What do you mean Mycroft that is almost doubling the cost of the original car.

Mycroft

That just makes the whole thing even better VFM... doesn't it!

trollhunter

What pipework , the exhaust manifold ???? , ive ditched the IC and gone FMIC , the turbo setup in the soarer looks very similar whats the diff in that pipework

trollhunter

The soarer just looks too much like a probe for my likeing , but it could be just like that plain girl with the glasses , maybe it goes so well you cant help yourself , doesnt mean you wanna be seen out with it though !!!

Mycroft

The Soarer head has better flow rates than the Supra head!

They are transposable so that is the start.. but that was covered by me on the MKIV site... there is a whole thread on this subject... if you ignore all the silly sniping like that we have just seen from Churchwa... you will get all you need to understand what is involved... I even offered to design the damned manifold for anyone wanting to have a go. (how naive was I!!!)

[Edited by Mycroft - 4/25/2003 12:08:43 AM]

trollhunter

Seen a design for a manifold on a nz site , if you want i can post the link , its based on the stock part , so do you think the manifold is the clue , i know they are restrictive ???

Mycroft

As I say, what is lovely to one mans eyes is heaven to anothers...

The Probe and the Hyundai Scoopra look like the Supe to me, right down to being hatchbacks... the Soarer is a notch-back design...

trollhunter

Fair comment .













But the sup is better looking

trollhunter

Need sleep now , carry on tommorrow ????

Mycroft

Some guys from NZ (thru Toymods) contacted me about 2 years ago... they maybe the same people... my advice then was that the standard shape doesn't help low to mid range torque.
To get the best in that range the take up length from valve to wheel has to be quite drastically shortened... I don't know if they did that...

(sleep....cool)


[Edited by Mycroft - 4/25/2003 12:19:39 AM]

trollhunter

http://www.turbofast.com.au/lexusturbo.html

Claudius

The GSXR is nice, a little stiffer than the R1, but feels less torquey. I passed R1s on 2 occasions in my car. If it's twisty enough, you're dead

Let me think of a nice twisty circuit where you'd lose and I'll get back to you. Preferably in France You like France?

[Edited by Redkop - 4/25/2003 12:26:54 PM]

trollhunter

trouble is claudius you would pick a cart circuit where we dont need to do over 100mph , pick a nice open one like snetterton and see what happens , you may hit 120 down the back straight whist i would see over 160 .No i dont particlarly like France , you french then ???

Pavlo

From the A-pillar back, they look like an S14 200sx in many ways, or vica versa as I guess it should be.

Is the soarer ECU able to be worked on readily?

is 550hp okay on standard internals?

Paul

Mycroft

From the A-pillar back, they look like an S14 200sx in many ways, or vica versa as I guess it should be.
Yep.

Is the soarer ECU able to be worked on readily?
Now they are... but the car is fiendishly complex...

is 550hp okay on standard internals?
Yep. You can mod any TT to around 550hp with stock internals... that is the limit really... beyond that you need to go for a some serious work... the valve set-up needs re-doing from scratch... that allows 9500rpm... the the bearing shells need attention then... the list goes on a bit... but you can get a 565hp 200mph Soarer from the basically standard internals... there are a few in Japan... I know of one here and one in Oz...

goodnight

If these cars are so good how come this company has had one for ages?
emporerimports
I have never driven one but they seem like way to big a car to be good in the bends without loads of electric add ons. How much would it cost to get them upto 400bhp?

Pepper

Pepper - will you please refrain from carrying on your vendetta against Mycroft on this thread. You are spoiling what is an interesting, informative thread.

Anymore comments will be deleted!

[Edited by Redkop - 4/25/2003 11:19:16 AM]

Claudius

Absolutely!

I dont have a track car, I have a rally car. I use it on roads with potholes and bumps and dust / dirt / gravel / grip changing surface (where you'd kill yourself on a bike). There's a vehicle for every use; mine's better for the road and your GSX-R is better for fast smooth tarmac roads or tracks.

It's quite nice in the South in the spring / summer, perfect bike weather better food and wine than the UK, but watch it, they're putting more speed detectors up now

No, but I live there. I'm an immigrant

4hours 15mins from Paris to Nice in a Porsche GT3 (about 600 miles of a distance). Could you drive your bike at high speed for that long?

Claudius

Thanks for that, girlie! At least some sensible editing here phew! that guy really starts to get on my nerves!

Little Miss WRX

Right guys,

Lynne and I have done some serious pruning on this thread.

Any more discussion that is not on topic and/or is insulting to any members will be deleted and result in this, otherwise fine thread, being locked!

I do not expect any posts afterwards saying "I agree" or anything to that effect, or not.
Just continue on with reasoned discussion only and keep this thread OPEN!

Best Regards,

Michelle.

Mycroft

No problem.

Pavlo

I have to admit the concept of such a car is tempting.

What sort of reliable boost can one expect on the standard turbos? I guess it's about 400hp worth seeing as that's where the mycroft-mobile is at roughly. The turbos work in a plain parallel mode similar to the RB engines, are they also a direct swap for commonly available units?

Paul

Mycroft

The subject of the ceramic turbos has caused quite some confusion even amongst Soarer owners... I have to admit the Turbos have a reputation for being fragile... and they are... but only due to a lack of understanding... they are extra-ordinarily low-mass units... the Ceramic impellors in the turbines are glued to the shaft, they are not welded, this means that some regard has to taken of the Glue... and the control (not so much of the boost but) of the exhaust temps takes centre stage... as you all know to get the best low to midrange torque figure you need the Turbine to be hot... but further up the revs as the motor itself produces a greater volume of gas at higher flow rates the temps can become excessive and the Turbines 'flutter' as the glue luxates, so the hard thing to do is get heat to stay early on and get away higher up the range... it has taken me almost 2 years but the solution has been found, just the fitting of a special turbine exit manifold and some insulation adds 40hp with no further mods.

£500 exc. each...



[Edited by Mycroft - 4/25/2003 3:07:24 PM]