JohnMcC

Just took some quick snaps of the new bulbs in place - look smart IMO

Before:





Take one set of these:





Et viola :









I did take a shot of the whole rear, but it didnt come out very well. I will try again later if I get a chance.

You were right though, they pop off very easily and I did the whole thing in a couple of minutes. Dont know what I was doing before, lol

Thats the easy bit done....



edit: - for a full size pic, copy/paste the address and add '.orig.jpg' to the end.




[Edited by JohnMcC - 10/9/2003 1:20:46 PM]

naturbo2000

mmm pretty

you might want to blank out your plate tho'

Haven't looked at mine at night yet



[Edited by naturbo2000 - 10/10/2003 9:07:38 AM]

Mickle

Whoh a company I recommended for selling me MY00 bulbs on page 2 is now selling what you want

MentalJapTurbo

Just so you know before you put your front lights in the oven. The main dealers want £147.06 + vat each for them.

naturbo2000

Nonsense - if I melt them down (and I might ), I'm replacing them with de-tango'd ones

$330 each!



Edited to say - "He who dares" and all that

[Edited by naturbo2000 - 10/10/2003 4:16:05 PM]

philgr

headlights off the car and stripped down,
im waiting for the morning to pop them in the oven as i am about to do my tea and im bloody starving and also ill have an extra pair of hands in the morning to help with the prizing apart of the lenses

wish me luck

Phil G

JockyTT

Phil

Have detango-ed a bug eye and you don't need to put em in the oven. Use a hair dryer around the edges to loosen the plastic surround and the sealant and if they're anything like the bug eyes, they just pull apart. Bit safer than the oven IMHO.

Steve

philgr

De-Tango Operation complete,
piccy's posted later, got to fit them back in the car

I claim first De-Tango on a MY03

Phil G

simo

Phil

Look much better m8. How easy was it to do? Don't know if I like to oven idea!

cheers simon

naturbo2000

Cool - well done mate!

Just need to find some time to do mine

sandycam

iTrader: (1)

Looks the muts nuts!
But who's going to organise a group buy of the bulbs

naturbo2000

Not for me...


btw - given my side repeaters arrived this morning and are now on the car, if I rush and do the headlights do I get the first full de-tango'd 03?

<- sad me for being so lazy for not tackling the headlights over the weekend...

NXG

philgr, congrats.

They look exactly how I hope mine will as soon as you post a blow by blow account on how it was done.

Hint hint :-)

TIA Steve.

naturbo2000

Done-didly-un

If only the manual had mentioned that there's a third bolt holding the headlights on


I claim the 2nd de-tangoed 03

I'll try and get piccies up tomorrow (but not of step by step cos I was in too much hurry)


PS - I did it the hairdryer way - was fine

naturbo2000

btw - Philgr you disappointed by the brightness of the silverfusion bulbs?

I'm sure the Osram diadems I had on my 97 sport had a much cleaner light.

Andy

philgr

I will hopefully post up an step by step tomorrow, although i did not take any piccys, doh!!

as for the brightness, i did not expect them to be as bright as when the orange wedges were in, but its not too bad.

I am more then happy with the results, its the way the car should have looked when i bought it

Phil G

naturbo2000

Agreed - Def how the car should look

The only things I have to offer to a how-to are:

a) third bolt holding lights in not mentioned in the owners manual - otherwise instructions there were right
b) fair bit of "manipulation" requied to get the headlights out of their sockets
c) screw hidden under sticky backed sponge on top edge of headlights (making nine black screws in total plus two silver holding the white bracket. Remembered to count them on when doing the second light)
d) would like to see how you seperated the light - I warmed the mastic in sections using a hairdryer and eased the light apart using a v. large flat-head screwdriver, starting from the main beam light, across top, round side and then to bottom clips - worked fine, but the frame shows where the plastic has stretched a little (only visible under the bonnet). I have a feeling that using an oven might have better results, but potentially bad consequences.
e) single screw holding inner frame of lens
f) two long clips on top edge of edge, one on bottom - I found easiest way was to unclip the outside-top one, and then small one at bottom then wedge fell out easily
g) don't forget to clean up any fingerprints before waming back up mastic and re-sealing
h) silvervision bulbs required a lot of effort to get into the sockets on the headlights - much more than the rear
i) test lights all work before screwing back onto car - potential danger of killing sidelights bulbs during operation, and replaceing them is a headlight-out affair

Andy

NXG

Thanks for that, but in a), you mention a third bolt.... where is it?

Cheers
Steve

naturbo2000

aha - that would be telling

It's the major reason for removing the grill - the bolt is tucked away behind the upright parts of the front bumper between the grill and headlights... so need a decent wrench/socket set to access the bugger.

Well - is on mine (EU import)

NXG

Oh well, looks like I've got to put it off for ANOTHER weekend anyway. Just found out that half the shed roof has rotted away so I'm going to be up a ladder replacing that all weekend.

Cheers for the info.
Steve.

MentalJapTurbo

Two and a half hours hard labour and it’s done. I found if you do all your prising at the bottom and keep it warm you don’t need to go near the top with the screwdriver. Therefore all the marks are hidden.

NXG

Well, the shed only took one day of the weekend so today was de-tango day.

Just a few things to add to the instructions above. I found that just heating and releasing the top and top inside clip was enough to get my fingers into the headlight to pop the orange wedge out (from the bottom). Hairdryer method used here too.

The headlights go back in a lot easier than they came out. put the white clip end in first and lever round being careful not to scratch the wing.

The biggest thing was the bulbs. THEY ARE NOT DIRECT REPLACEMENTS for the front. I have emailed SilverFusion about them. The problem is the glass wedge in the centre of the bulb. It's wider than the original bulbs and therefore it fouls on the plastic guides inside the bulb holder. I got around this by using a small, sharp chisel to reduce the height of the guide by about 1mm for around 5mm of its depth. The bulb then fits a treat.

Last and most important of all. De-Tango in black looks the dogs danglies

Pictures soon.

Steve.

naturbo2000

The one's I've ordered are made by APC:
(APC M-3 7440 Titan Bulb) part number 504144B

Not from the above supplier, but a decent pic.

I've just heard from the place I've ordered with that they're still on back order...



AFAIK what you need are:
WY21Y (Jap code for bulb, same as W21W but amber)
or
T-20 fitment single filament 21W
or
7440 fitment (not 7443, cos it's dual filament, like brake/night light)


The only other bulbs I've seen are:
PolarG visual G-71s - nice but really expensive (note pic not of G-71s)
APC LED clusters - not the look I'm after [/b]


Now if someone can get the PolarG bulbs at a reasonable price (i.e. < 10quid a bulb all in), I'd be happy to take them and cancel my other order...
Any other alternatives I'd love to hear of.




[Edited by naturbo2000 - 8/11/2003 9:19:08 AM]

JohnMcC

http://shop.sportruck.com/lights/bulbs/LEDbulbs.html



Not the best example, but I cant find the better ones/site at the moment...will keep looking.

edit: the way I first read it was that the amber LEDs were summed up in the next section down (if you see what I mean) but looking again I am not so sure now.....

Anyway, pretty sure I have found some elsewhere though so will look for them.....







[Edited by JohnMcC - 6/12/2003 1:17:48 PM]

naturbo2000

just trying to check whether these are right:

http://www.autocom.com/shopexd.asp?id=3396

I like the price


edit to say they're the same as part number as these http://www.nextcollection.net/html/O...5079-none.cfm# but for 1/2 the price

[Edited by naturbo2000 - 6/12/2003 1:26:42 PM]

JohnMcC

Cool, I will wait and see what they say when (if) they reply...

yeah, the pictures on the japanese site show them with no yeallow wedges and it looks much better.

This:






Looks so much better than this:



Havent got the cajones to mess with them yet though!!!

[Edited by JohnMcC - 6/12/2003 5:11:42 PM]

philgr

as Promised



Half the job done



Back on the car

I think they looks miles better, and the job was alot easier than i thought,
but i did have help from steve sherwen who has carried out the job before on a bug eye.

Phil G

[Edited by philgr - 10/12/2003 2:05:48 PM]