FIAT COUPE 20v TURBO
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You're obviously a virgin Mycroft - that's why you spend so much time on here.
Except of course your **** - that's in tatters from all the reaming you get!! mwahhahahahahahahahaah!!!
Except of course your **** - that's in tatters from all the reaming you get!! mwahhahahahahahahahaah!!!
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Without wanting to impugne the reputations of any of the cars mentioned in this thread unfairly.
I wouldn't have said that a FIAT Coupe 20VT was the way to go if you're looking to curb costs and retain a wedge of cash. If you look at the FIAT coupe forum there's almost a bravado about how much is spent on maintenance and repairs.
I nearly bought one myself last year but the garage wanted too much IMO.
I dunno how many scoobies are on UK roads but there have to be far more than FIAT coupes. You have to try and figure the likelihood of your car having major problems. A mate used to work in car accessory and had a low opinion of Escorts and Cavaliers 'cos people were always coming in for bit to fix them. There would be though 'cos there's zillions of them on the roads. They're normally cheap to fix because of the volume of the 'spares' industry supporting them.
BTW: If I can find a reasonable 20VT I might still be tempted but maybe only after I get another years NCB on my second car insurance - 50% just isn't enough.
Vindaloo.
I wouldn't have said that a FIAT Coupe 20VT was the way to go if you're looking to curb costs and retain a wedge of cash. If you look at the FIAT coupe forum there's almost a bravado about how much is spent on maintenance and repairs.
I nearly bought one myself last year but the garage wanted too much IMO.
I dunno how many scoobies are on UK roads but there have to be far more than FIAT coupes. You have to try and figure the likelihood of your car having major problems. A mate used to work in car accessory and had a low opinion of Escorts and Cavaliers 'cos people were always coming in for bit to fix them. There would be though 'cos there's zillions of them on the roads. They're normally cheap to fix because of the volume of the 'spares' industry supporting them.
BTW: If I can find a reasonable 20VT I might still be tempted but maybe only after I get another years NCB on my second car insurance - 50% just isn't enough.
Vindaloo.
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From this point on reasoned, on topic discussion only please.
Any inflammatory replies/insults/off topic discussion will result in your replies being removed and this thread possibly being closed.
You have been warned.
Best Regards,
Michelle.
Any inflammatory replies/insults/off topic discussion will result in your replies being removed and this thread possibly being closed.
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Michelle.
#105
Oh yeah, love FCT's, mate bought one new and lost shed loads on it but what a lovely car, Met Black, I know they are a love or hate it car but I think they are a really distinctive car.
I drove a Standard Terzo and it just wasnt as quick as the FCT but it would have murdered it round corners, not that the FIat was that bad, just the Scoob is that good.
Saxo Boy, glad somebody round here can be relied on to keep both feet firmly in reality, it is difficult to respond when you are bound by actual facts in a sea of BS, keep up the good work !
I drove a Standard Terzo and it just wasnt as quick as the FCT but it would have murdered it round corners, not that the FIat was that bad, just the Scoob is that good.
Saxo Boy, glad somebody round here can be relied on to keep both feet firmly in reality, it is difficult to respond when you are bound by actual facts in a sea of BS, keep up the good work !
#107
Cambelt is no longer £1000 job, it can be done for around £350-£500 by a specialist.
BTW- most main dealers still remove the engine. It also isn't the case doing the belt with the engine in-situ is incorrect and likely to lead to failure. Fiat UK issued the dealers with instructions on how to do the belt In-situ just most of them ignore it (probably) cos it takes less time. As I said take it to a specialist and the job WILL be done PROPERLY and will cost half the price of the main dealer.
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BTW- most main dealers still remove the engine. It also isn't the case doing the belt with the engine in-situ is incorrect and likely to lead to failure. Fiat UK issued the dealers with instructions on how to do the belt In-situ just most of them ignore it (probably) cos it takes less time. As I said take it to a specialist and the job WILL be done PROPERLY and will cost half the price of the main dealer.
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#108
Cambelt a £1000 job, needs to be done officially at 72K miles but 48k is safer and the damned things can snap a few weeks after fitting... the 20V Turbo uses a ltr of oil every 600miles and that is NORMAL!!!.. they do rust (near the rear lights)... some have leaky floorpans, some just leak... they look like 'Bob-tailed Toads' or a 'Hippopotafrogs' (both phrases got me banned (for a while from the Fiat Coupe forum... a great site with some real good guys and just a couple of Nerks who didn't like my honest and open comments...
Fiat dealers are indeed sh1te
up to a litre every 1000 miles is more normal
rear light rust - first I've heard
never heard of any more leaky ones than any other car.
Not as responsive as scoobs and evos, and a long way behind on bumpy lanes but great engines and gearboxes - they are sturdy and once rolling are pretty darn quick on nice roads and will usually equal / beat a scoob.
not sure about the styling myself.
Owned an evo and a coupe previously.
Italian trash
oh yes, and it beat the teg and scoob to first place in the sub 10 grand category of last month's autocar second hand fast car challenge.
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#109
Not exactly a ringing endorsement is it!
The cracking manifolds is a design fault also that costs you money..serious money... you'd need that grand and a whole lot more to keep one on the road...
I have also had italian cars 348/328/FIAT Dino Spyder/ 3 Alfas'/ FIAT 124 coupe... I was young and foolish... I will never ever evvvvver own another.
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The cracking manifolds is a design fault also that costs you money..serious money... you'd need that grand and a whole lot more to keep one on the road...
I have also had italian cars 348/328/FIAT Dino Spyder/ 3 Alfas'/ FIAT 124 coupe... I was young and foolish... I will never ever evvvvver own another.
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#110
I meant have you owned a Fiat Coupe MrGee.
I had mine 2 years. - 1 major item - new clutch. no rust no leaks, no breakdowns etc.
I think you're getting mixed up with the Italian cars of the 80s which were indeed shocking.
top end 155 or so and same 60-100 time as a P1
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I had mine 2 years. - 1 major item - new clutch. no rust no leaks, no breakdowns etc.
I think you're getting mixed up with the Italian cars of the 80s which were indeed shocking.
top end 155 or so and same 60-100 time as a P1
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Right here we go,
Having sold my STi 7 back in December 2002 I went for a 1997 Fiat Coupe 20V Turbo(needed something much better on fuel!), 4 months later & it is one most emence cars I have ever owned.
I am sooo over the moon with it, and it cost me just £7000 not £25,000 like the STi cost me, and for fun it beats the hell out of the scooby
For just £35.00 I have boosted the power from 220bhp to at least 245bhp by just fitting a PRV (Pressure Relief Valve), and with an exhaust it sounds as good as the STi did with a HKS Zorst on.
Yes it doesnt hold the traction as well and especially in the wet but I def would not go back to a Scooby.
So the point, the Coupe is a very well made and engineered car, it makes me smile everytime I drive it and I dont have to wait til 4,000rpm for the Turbo to kick in
To date I have had not spent one penny on it apart from Performance of course
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Having sold my STi 7 back in December 2002 I went for a 1997 Fiat Coupe 20V Turbo(needed something much better on fuel!), 4 months later & it is one most emence cars I have ever owned.
I am sooo over the moon with it, and it cost me just £7000 not £25,000 like the STi cost me, and for fun it beats the hell out of the scooby
For just £35.00 I have boosted the power from 220bhp to at least 245bhp by just fitting a PRV (Pressure Relief Valve), and with an exhaust it sounds as good as the STi did with a HKS Zorst on.
Yes it doesnt hold the traction as well and especially in the wet but I def would not go back to a Scooby.
So the point, the Coupe is a very well made and engineered car, it makes me smile everytime I drive it and I dont have to wait til 4,000rpm for the Turbo to kick in
To date I have had not spent one penny on it apart from Performance of course
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#112
sorry MyCroft but you're talking out of your you know what.
get off your box and listen to what people who've owned jap and FCT are saying.
People who can talk from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, and I don't mean the personal experience of hearing second hand tales, I mean people who have owned both and are therefore more qualified than you to have an opinion with solid foundations.
You seem unable to take on board any complimentry word about the FCT. Sure some have issues, like some Scoobies on here but by far and away the majority of postings on the coupe site are about the joy the owners get from their cars etc. not how they're stranded and broken.
There are an awful lot more horror stories on this very forum than the Fiat one so get your bedtime stories correct before you start telling them.
Every other post on here is someone gutted with a melted 3rd piston.
Kinda puts the Coupe's problems into perspective. They are usually minor electrical such as a rear wiper switch or some such.
Best Regards
[Edited by juan - 4/12/2003 11:12:45 AM]
get off your box and listen to what people who've owned jap and FCT are saying.
People who can talk from PERSONAL EXPERIENCE, and I don't mean the personal experience of hearing second hand tales, I mean people who have owned both and are therefore more qualified than you to have an opinion with solid foundations.
You seem unable to take on board any complimentry word about the FCT. Sure some have issues, like some Scoobies on here but by far and away the majority of postings on the coupe site are about the joy the owners get from their cars etc. not how they're stranded and broken.
There are an awful lot more horror stories on this very forum than the Fiat one so get your bedtime stories correct before you start telling them.
Every other post on here is someone gutted with a melted 3rd piston.
Kinda puts the Coupe's problems into perspective. They are usually minor electrical such as a rear wiper switch or some such.
Best Regards
[Edited by juan - 4/12/2003 11:12:45 AM]
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