Yeah, i know a guy that had a stage one cossie 305 on standard injectors and a 2wd intercooler....

Hear very high figures from there, so i would say they defo over read

So you might want them to be accurate

 

I have been using Power Engineering for years, and consider their rollers to be very accurate. I took the same car to Power Station and Power Engineering within 2 days, and come up with the following.

Evo 4 - running 1.15 bar boost, Blitz exhaust and uprated downpipe, blitz Air filter. Quarter mile time 12.6 at Santa Pod.

Power Station - bhp figure of 260bhp

Power Engineering - figure of 305bhp

Your thoughts on a postcard please.

 

i'd say power station are more accurate than PE, defo.

Always best to use the low figure, cause when you destroy someone you can say its only got 260bhp

 

Lol, sounds good to me.

Like you say, its just matter of preference. Wouldnt life be boring if we all had the same opinion.

 

It will be interesting to see how Kev Sharp performs shortly at Santa Pod He is a Crail regular with his 520 bhp(bench dyno'd) Escort Cosworth and has recently added a NOS kit.
He runs 11.8 @ 126 at Crail.

Regards the gearing, the more power you have in an RA the less suitable the gearing becomes. For example during a 0 - 100 mph run I change gear 4 times. Thats 2.2 seconds i'm off the power during a 9.2 second run !

Andy

 

Cheers Guys

 

I think with that power, 11.8 is a realistic power figure, as Reyland has run 11.5 at santa Pod with around 550bhp.

I have heard that Reyland have just built a new engine, which has been engine dynoed at 750bhp. It is not a Cosworth block, but alloy block, so good luck to him. That will be a quickie definately.

 

I gained 30bhp at PE on my old 1.9 RS Turbo overnight

 

Says it all really.

 

I dont need to fight PE's corner for them.

I'm sure there is a logical explanation for all concerned.

If they were that bad, no one would go to them.

 

Not saying their bad, in fact I would religiously take my RS to Mervyn as he would set it up better than anywhere else.
The point I was agreeing with is simply that in my experience their rollers generally show higher figures than others around the country

 

.........and that's why they are so frequently visited by scoobs

 

You know that
I went to PTS once, didnt like the result..
Back to PE

Rob.

 

I guess it's about how you compare to the other cars running the same day/same rollers

I went to Well Lane one weekend, liked the result so much I went back the next weekend for some more

 

So if Powerstation figures are low compared to others, then my 286bhp with my 1 bar Gti-R (with unichip) a couple of weeks ago was better than I thought, nice. Should be easily over 300 else where then.

 

This is probably the wrong place for a rolling road discussion but IMO the figures at PS and PE may both be correct. If PE have a short run time and PS have a long run, it is possible that the power is dropping off due to heat build up on the longer run.

The ideal run time on the rollers (IMO) is the time it takes the car normally to accelerate through the 'most used' gear.

Well Lane incidentally is quite good for this, the quick run time is like a 3rd or 4th gear pull. Some rollers hold the engine back so long it's like a 7th gear !!! The results from such a run are unrepresentative of the engines potential.

Andy

 

Back to subject
Is harveys car the fastest wagon in the world over a quarter mile??
I dont recall any other 5 doors running 12's before.
With the times he is getting now i dont suppose it will be long before he breaks the 11 second barrier..
I know that there are some proposed times for some very powerful cars but at this present time how does it stand??

Rob

 

Maybe, i dont know.

A good comparison maybe to see if anyone knows what Nitos Wagon could do the quarter in. I know it was relatively quick over 500m at TOTB last year. So it could be a good comparison, or not?

 

These are fantastic power figs for sure....anything above 320bhp in a scoob IMHO is awesome..... However....I'd love to see more of these "monsters" on track where they could hold their own AND BEYOND against the majority of EVO's out there ! I was unfortunate enough to only have 333bhp in my last RA V Ltd and could just about hold my own with the big EVO's (360 - 420 bhp)(I know there's bigger monsters out there) but I had to wring it's neck out in doing so....BUT with the sort of power figs you guys are achieving and half a driver behind the wheel I'd say you'd destroy anything in your path Seriously !

So unless one of you straight line girls would like to sell me your monster I'll have to continue being the underdog with little power

Well done to all

 

Chris, I may make it on to track sometime this year. The above was my 1st ever event off road

 

Both Harveys and my own car have seen more track action than the straightline 'girls' stuff thank you very much

With Harvey noising them up at Croft an me at Knockhill

Anyway, trackdays are still 'girly' Mellow.
Proper circuit racing is where all the 'real men' play

ps - No offence to any fast girls out there

[Edited by Andy.F - 4/4/2003 8:50:08 AM]

 

Lol @ Andy..... I thought Knockhill was more suited to go-karts

I'm still waiting to be passed by a scoob....I'm sure you girls may present some stiff competition....although maybe not....I seem to remember my good mate Harvey chasing my lowly 292 bhp cossie at the time up at Croft last year and him spending more time on the green stuff than the black

All fair in love and war

P.S; I've done plenty of "proper" racing in my time from grasstrack, stock car to achieving a works drive in a Vauxhall BTTC mota

Still.....well done all the same

 

Pruven power bragging forum on Nasioc
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/foru...?s=&forumid=79
Search under kevin thomas, he keeps a 1/4 mile registry of times for scoobs.
That 60ft is excellent, perhaps better than USA 60fts.

 

That looks pretty fair to me.

The only thing is though, what do we class as accurate times and at which race tracks do we allow as being accurate???

 

Seems we have a similar history Mellow Although I would never admit to driving a Vauxhall

 

Mellow.. Ill let you take mine round a track when its done

 

Mellow: The STi Wagon was only on the grass once testing the limits of adhesion and even then kept going. Nothing passed it all day. Come to Croft for the next one on Friday 16 May if you fancy your chances, Darling.!!!
Baptism/lossof virginity for P20SPD?We will be gentlewith you.

 

I'd come along.....but I'm washing my hair

 

cant speak 100% for steven but im 99.9% sure he wont be able to make it, due to it being a friday, and him working all week.. and that any holiday he has I would imagine is being saved for building the extension on the house..

Im sure he can speak for himself though...

David

 

Bloodyhell, some powerful scoobies now. Gotta agree, Power Engineering rollers seem to over read by about 30/40bhp on any car compared to most other rollers, can tell they wrong by some results that just arnt possible, like Dingys example of the Cossie o std injectors doing over 300bhp.

Martin H (reyland) car is not 750bhp by a long shot, lol.

580bhp (ish- i cant remember) on optimax and 630bhp (ish- i cant remember) on 102 octane (ECU can change maps at flick of a switch so none of this "road car mapped for race fuel" bollox people do these days). 750bhp is possible, and has been done in scandinavia (using a cossie block, wheras martins using a alloy version of a cossie block, aftermarket job) but 750bhp makes it a pure top end monster, whereas martins has 450lb/ft at 3500rpm (thas not peak torque either!) and has a mega long n flat torque curve! THATS why it so impressive.

Heres some pics of dyno results etc of a 700+bhp one, as you can see, all top end, mad mad power, but Matins "probably" a better all rounder...






(hope the pics work)...

Cheers, Steve

[Edited by Steve3drALS - 4/4/2003 4:27:15 PM]