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Old Mar 25, 2003 | 10:55 PM
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From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
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Congratulations.

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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 01:42 AM
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Christian congrats !!!!!

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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 02:30 AM
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If the 2.5 can retain the volumetric efficiency of a 2.0 then we are looking at 477 x 25/20 = 596bhp

I wait with baited breath

Andy
so 632 (on a rolling dyno) - 596 (AP22) = 36 bhp difference

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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 02:37 AM
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 08:18 AM
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lol @ ChristianR I know there were rumours of PE rollers being optomistic
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 08:43 AM
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Christian WOW!!!

You need to update your profile now
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 10:42 AM
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What does the SUB/911T1 mean? Don't suppose a tuned 911 Turbo provided the curves?

[Edited by MorayMackenzie - 3/26/2003 10:44:51 AM]
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 11:00 AM
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that is the file name.

SUB = Subaru
the rest is last digits of my number plate, then T1 I believe is the run number.
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 12:06 PM
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Christian,

What have you done to go from 460 - 630

An article in Banzai said you were having problems with how much the intercooler could flow, was this the bottleneck
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 12:10 PM
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 12:30 PM
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Latest runs with the NOS on lacking traction in the lower gears but managed to grip ok in 4th.......




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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 12:59 PM
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OK Andy, should've read the posts
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 02:04 PM
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Christian: Can you knock up some £50 notes for me if I get the right paper? Oh and a couple of birth certificates to dispell some people beliefsCheers.
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 02:07 PM
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From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
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Andy,

Graph looks good, have you done them before
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 02:08 PM
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From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
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Also since when did speed go 160 - 100
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 02:59 PM
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Just goes to show, figures/graphs posted on this board you will have to take with a pinch of salt! As they can easily be forged to give fictious results, aint that right Andy! (http://upload.turbosport.co.uk/getpi...2744351284.JPG)
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 03:47 PM
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hehe

Adam was confused for a while though!

Andy, did you wave the AP22 about to get that graph?

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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 04:25 PM
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LOL at harvey's post.
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 05:49 PM
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That graph was a simulation run of a 1000 bhp scooby through the gears using available traction. It was intended to find out typical performance expectations from a twin engined car ..... mmmmm 0-100 in under 6 secs. 1/4 mile in 9.6 That'll do for me

The first post of Harveys car was of 2 genuine runs in opposite directions on the same straight road using 1480 kgs as the input weight.

Looking forward to Elvington to see who really has useable BHP and who has 'bull' horse power

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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 06:04 PM
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The ECU that David is getting has a bull5h1t'o'meter built in, hence the special order.

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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 06:06 PM
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We need one of them on here

David, I hope it's the 10 bar rated one

[Edited by Andy.F - 3/26/2003 6:07:59 PM]
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 06:19 PM
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Andy, what evidence do you have to show us that you are stating the truth?

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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 06:42 PM
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He's from Scottieland and is always know to post truthfully, and without wooden spoon

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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 07:30 PM
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With Harveys AP22 run I only have Harvey as witness.

For my own published figure of 432 bhp I have an army of witnesses from Well Lane (you were one of them )and the graph was posted on here for viewing
................more than can be said for your 460 'fairy tale'
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 07:43 PM
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Christian : Were you seriously questioning Andy`s integrity. You may wish to clarify your position to avoid any misconceptions.

To answer all the other questions :-

I obtained an Open Deck Block / Short Engine for 1100$ shipped but have not started on the next engine yet as I am agonizing over the pros and cons of 2 litre and 2.5 litre. Matt Clark of Roger Clark Motor Sport will build the engine with mapping by Bob Rawle as usual.

I was at G Force a couple of weeks ago with the 200+ Club and was very disappointed with the numbers which were basically in line with Well Lane last October but a lot of mapping has been done since then and the car is far faster on the road as a result. However, G Force said the figures were very impressive for them as it was the most powerful Subaru by a long way they had seen to date.

BOCU = Boost Oscilation Control Unit similar to the BOCD (Device) obtained for Andy F but I am now running an Apexi AVC-R and Andy has had further thoughts on Boost Control also.

I want to do some experiments on breathing and my inlet tract. I am also going to try another set of Ion Performance headers. The existing air filter is the original K+N with the APS cold air kit which I think is rated at 450cfm so I expect it is restrictive now. I do not know if any of this work will be done in advance of G Force but whatever figures I get there will be used to identify the gains or otherwise from the modifications I have in hand, but all mapping since last October has been aimed at bottom end or mid range gains so the top end has been ignored and consideration will have to be given in that area for high top speeds. Aerodynamics may also play a significant part so I guess I will get a benchmark at Elvington this weekend.

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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 07:47 PM
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From: Leeds - It was 562.4bhp@28psi on Optimax, How much closer to 600 with race fuel and a bigger turbo?
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Harvey.. will try and get up on sunday for a laugh

Not at you I must add..

Nova vs scoob.
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 08:24 PM
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Paul,

I did say "what if its true?"

But in reply to your point, yes I was confused!
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 08:39 PM
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Tis alright Adam, I was only winding you up some.

Or was I.......

Paul
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 09:05 PM
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Adam - Did you pass ?
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Old Mar 26, 2003 | 10:16 PM
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Andy,

its the first of three exams. It was the one I was dreading the most, and probably went better than I expected to, but then no one passes first time, and with a 7% pass rate, I dont think I will be changing that generalisation.

have another 7.5 hour one tomorrow and a third 6 hour straight one on friday.

its impossible to know if I passed or not, and the results don't come out until September .



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